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Title: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 03, 2015, 07:50:40 PM
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Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 03, 2015, 07:55:28 PM
Captain Harlock should be waaaaay in the upper right.
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: Capn Darwin on January 03, 2015, 07:59:35 PM
Captain Planet should be hitting more Dorky points, Picard underrated in ass kicking (he was a Borg and took out most of Starfleet), and where the hell is Cap'n Darwin in the upper right of this plot.  :2funny:
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 03, 2015, 08:02:57 PM
Quote from: Capn Darwin on January 03, 2015, 07:59:35 PMwhere the hell is Cap'n Darwin in the upper right of this plot.  :2funny:

uh...  upper left you mean?  ;)
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: bbmike on January 03, 2015, 08:07:03 PM
Pfffft. Best captain? Kirk. Period.
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 03, 2015, 09:08:30 PM
what about Captain Stubbing?
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: Cyrano on January 03, 2015, 09:17:11 PM
Oh, heavens!

Stubing....Merrill Stubing.

Although Stubbing might be fun.

And no chart that ignores Hornblower can be valid.

Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 03, 2015, 09:31:12 PM
or the Captain of the SS Minnow
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: Staggerwing on January 03, 2015, 09:58:18 PM
He wasn't Captain, he was Skipper
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 03, 2015, 10:02:32 PM
Captain Phillips
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: Cyrano on January 03, 2015, 10:06:40 PM
Capt. Jonas Grumby...lest we forget...

Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 03, 2015, 10:10:26 PM
go nuts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fictional_military_captains
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 03, 2015, 10:10:45 PM
Captain Stabbin'
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: Greybriar on January 03, 2015, 10:11:21 PM
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Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: Cyrano on January 03, 2015, 10:15:07 PM
Captain Ahab Lincoln?

And, it occurs to me, Capt. Ahab would be just a bit up and to the left of Capt. Morgan...

Best,

Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 03, 2015, 10:23:16 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 03, 2015, 10:10:45 PM
Captain Stabbin'

I was curious how long it would take for someone to get there...  Thought it would be Star or Mirth tho
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 03, 2015, 10:23:31 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 03, 2015, 10:10:45 PM
Captain Stabbin'

see.... even I wasn't going to go there.
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: Staggerwing on January 03, 2015, 10:48:51 PM
All you S. Clay Wilson fans out there... don't forget about Captain Pissgums.
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: LongBlade on January 04, 2015, 08:36:34 AM
Quote from: Cyrano on January 03, 2015, 10:15:07 PM
Captain Ahab Lincoln?

And, it occurs to me, Capt. Ahab would be just a bit up and to the left of Capt. Morgan...

Best,

Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)

Are you kidding me? Captain Morgan marched 1500 men through hellish jungle to capture Panama, loot it, then turn around a couple of years later and sack Maracaibo.

He is better classified as a privateer than a pirate, but he was one of the most successful of either class, retiring rich, making his men relatively wealthy, being knighted for his efforts and ultimately made governor of Jamaica.

As for Picard, he couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag until he joined the Borg. That says a whole lot more for the Borg than it does for Picard.

A less well-known Captain, Mackenzie Calhoun, of Star Trek is definitely worthy of the upper right quadrant of that graph. He led a planetary rebellion...with a sword.
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: besilarius on January 04, 2015, 09:36:17 AM
Excellent post, Greybriar.
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 04, 2015, 10:06:16 AM
LB - I think the graph creators only know Captain Morgan as a rum company mascot, and not the historical figure.  If your only knowledge of the name is a dude in a commercial, then the placement is probably about right.
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: undercovergeek on January 04, 2015, 10:50:16 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on January 04, 2015, 10:06:16 AM
LB - I think the graph creators only know Captain Morgan as a rum company mascot, and not the historical figure.  If your only knowledge of the name is a dude in a commercial, then the placement is probably about right.

aaaaaaaand thats where i was until Greybriar
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: besilarius on January 04, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
One of those mad Englishmen, like Roberty Scott in Antarctica or TE Lawrence in the desert, E.R.G.R. Evans should be on any list of captains.
During Scott's doomed race to the Pole (the Norwegian Roald Amundsen;s team won), Scott was sent back to base camp for becoming ill from scurvy.  (seal liver was rich in vitamin C and was a necessary part of the diet.  "Teddy was a very bad boy and wouldn't eat his seal liver."} 
IN hindsight, becoming deathly ill from scurvy ultimately saved his life.  All of Scott's team who went on to reach the pole perished.
During WWI, while commanding HMS Broke, he attacked six german destroyers during the Battle of the Dover Strait.  His other ship torpedoed one of the enemy, but Broke deliberately rammed one ship.  Stuck together, some of the germans boarded Broke and Evans distributed cutlasses to the crew.  He actually got into quite a bit of trouble because some of his crew threw scalding mugs of cocoa at the poor germans.  A clear violation of the Geneva Convention.
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: LongBlade on January 04, 2015, 12:49:51 PM
Quote from: besilarius on January 04, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
One of those mad Englishmen, like Roberty Scott in Antarctica or TE Lawrence in the desert, E.R.G.R. Evans should be on any list of captains.
During Scott's doomed race to the Pole (the Norwegian Roald Amundsen;s team won), Scott was sent back to base camp for becoming ill from scurvy.  (seal liver was rich in vitamin C and was a necessary part of the diet.  "Teddy was a very bad boy and wouldn't eat his seal liver."} 
IN hindsight, becoming deathly ill from scurvy ultimately saved his life.  All of Scott's team who went on to reach the pole perished.
During WWI, while commanding HMS Broke, he attacked six german destroyers during the Battle of the Dover Strait.  His other ship torpedoed one of the enemy, but Broke deliberately rammed one ship.  Stuck together, some of the germans boarded Broke and Evans distributed cutlasses to the crew.  He actually got into quite a bit of trouble because some of his crew threw scalding mugs of cocoa at the poor germans.  A clear violation of the Geneva Convention.

Praytell, where can I procure a cutlass issued by Her Majesty's Royal Navy?  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: bob48 on January 04, 2015, 01:56:45 PM
If you join the RN, they will probably issue you with one as an interim weapon until such times as we have an operable aircraft carrier - (aircraft optional)  :(
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: besilarius on January 04, 2015, 02:27:01 PM
Now, now.  I'm sure that the mate of the Jolly Roger, Mr. Smee, will supply one when you signs on.
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: LongBlade on January 04, 2015, 02:36:56 PM
Quote from: besilarius on January 04, 2015, 02:27:01 PM
Now, now.  I'm sure that the mate of the Jolly Roger, Mr. Smee, will supply one when you signs on.

<chuckle>
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: LongBlade on January 04, 2015, 02:39:04 PM
Found one. USD 135.

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Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: LongBlade on January 04, 2015, 02:41:33 PM
Quote from: besilarius on January 04, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
One of those mad Englishmen, like Roberty Scott in Antarctica or TE Lawrence in the desert, E.R.G.R. Evans should be on any list of captains.
During Scott's doomed race to the Pole (the Norwegian Roald Amundsen;s team won), Scott was sent back to base camp for becoming ill from scurvy.  (seal liver was rich in vitamin C and was a necessary part of the diet.  "Teddy was a very bad boy and wouldn't eat his seal liver."} 
IN hindsight, becoming deathly ill from scurvy ultimately saved his life.  All of Scott's team who went on to reach the pole perished.
During WWI, while commanding HMS Broke, he attacked six german destroyers during the Battle of the Dover Strait.  His other ship torpedoed one of the enemy, but Broke deliberately rammed one ship.  Stuck together, some of the germans boarded Broke and Evans distributed cutlasses to the crew.  He actually got into quite a bit of trouble because some of his crew threw scalding mugs of cocoa at the poor germans.  A clear violation of the Geneva Convention.

I'm pretty sure you told that story before, but I had forgotten it and it was worth reading again :)

BTW, here is an image of the 1901 pattern cutlass, the last one issued by the RN, and thus likely to have been involved in the action.

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Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 04, 2015, 02:43:38 PM
A fine CQ weapon!
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: LongBlade on January 04, 2015, 08:17:44 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on January 04, 2015, 02:43:38 PM
A fine CQ weapon!

QuoteNot as clumsy or random as a blaster; an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.
Title: Re: O Captain, My Captain!
Post by: JasonPratt on January 06, 2015, 05:54:00 PM
Now I'm wondering whether the creator(s) of Space Battleship Yamato were fans of WW's poem. And where Captain Avatar would go on that graph. (I'm guessing reasonably far to the right but beneath Harlock since Av wouldn't be able to do the personal fighting -- partly for being an old Santa Claus figure, and partly for having cancer.)