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Title: Israel and Iran
Post by: LongBlade on March 01, 2015, 01:22:57 PM
I don't know what to make of this report.

QuoteThe Bethlehem-based news agency Ma'an has cited a Kuwaiti newspaper report Saturday, that US President Barack Obama thwarted an Israeli military attack against Iran's nuclear facilities in 2014 by threatening to shoot down Israeli jets before they could reach their targets in Iran.

Following Obama's threat, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu was reportedly forced to abort the planned Iran attack.

According to Al-Jarida, the Netanyahu government took the decision to strike Iran some time in 2014 soon after Israel had discovered the United States and Iran had been involved in secret talks over Iran's nuclear program and were about to sign an agreement in that regard behind Israel's back.

The report claimed that an unnamed Israeli minister who has good ties with the US administration revealed the attack plan to Secretary of State John Kerry, and that Obama then threatened to shoot down the Israeli jets before they could reach their targets in Iran.

source: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/191966
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: Tpek on March 01, 2015, 01:27:04 PM
Haven't heard anything about it.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: LongBlade on March 01, 2015, 01:30:38 PM
It's rather curious that a Kuwaiti news outlet broke the news.

Timing is also curious - Netanyahu is about to speak to the US Congress.

Interesting. Let's see if any other news outlet can independently confirm this report.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: Steelgrave on March 01, 2015, 01:46:44 PM
If true, I wish Netanyahu had called his bluff. I can only imagine the consequences to this administration had such a thing happened. Frankly, I don't think Obama has the balls.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: Staggerwing on March 01, 2015, 02:09:09 PM
This certainly seems like a clever bit of disinformation designed to piss off everyone, esp. Americans, Israelis, and Iranians.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: bbmike on March 01, 2015, 02:13:20 PM
Yeah, hard to believe Obama would threaten to shoot ANYONE down.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: mirth on March 01, 2015, 02:16:39 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on March 01, 2015, 02:09:09 PM
This certainly seems like a clever bit of disinformation designed to piss off everyone, esp. Americans, Israelis, and Iranians.

Doesn't seem all that clever. Kuwaiti newspaper citing an unnamed Israeli minister. Did he see Bigfoot too?
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: Steelgrave on March 01, 2015, 02:17:53 PM
You don't believe in Bigfoot???
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: Staggerwing on March 01, 2015, 02:23:27 PM
Quote from: mirth on March 01, 2015, 02:16:39 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on March 01, 2015, 02:09:09 PM
This certainly seems like a clever bit of disinformation designed to piss off everyone, esp. Americans, Israelis, and Iranians.

Doesn't seem all that clever. Kuwaiti newspaper citing an unnamed Israeli minister. Did he see Bigfoot too?

I meant clever only in that it will play into many folks' preconceptions about the three countries involved, not that there was any real brilliance there as far as colorful conspiracy theories go.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: mirth on March 01, 2015, 02:25:55 PM
Quote from: Steelgrave on March 01, 2015, 02:17:53 PM
You don't believe in Bigfoot???

I do. This documentary convinced me


Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: mirth on March 01, 2015, 02:28:39 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on March 01, 2015, 02:23:27 PM
I meant clever only in that it will play into many folks' preconceptions about the three countries involved, not that there was any real brilliance there as far as colorful conspiracy theories go.

So pretty much everyone will buy into then  :P
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: Staggerwing on March 01, 2015, 02:34:16 PM
Quite likely.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: mirth on March 01, 2015, 02:37:00 PM
That is clever.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: Micha on March 01, 2015, 02:53:07 PM
USA and punishing Israel ? A frozen hell is more possible.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: Gusington on March 01, 2015, 02:54:01 PM
I'm looking out my window right now and it appears hell has indeed frozen over.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: mirth on March 01, 2015, 03:36:41 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 01, 2015, 02:54:01 PM
I'm looking out my window right now and it appears hell has indeed frozen over.

+1 I always expected hell to be warmer and with more people wearing Argyle Speedos.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: bayonetbrant on March 01, 2015, 04:56:18 PM
I've got at least once int'l source who is pretty well-dialed in who thinks it's completely crap.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: Staggerwing on March 01, 2015, 05:01:41 PM
What's his opinion on Bat Boy?



(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lasplash.com%2Fuploads%2F%2F3%2FBat_Boy_review3.jpg&hash=d1026be5522354a5dac660ed4af051c8bd2ea750)

Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: mirth on March 01, 2015, 05:25:22 PM
^Totally legit!
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: Gusington on March 01, 2015, 06:37:09 PM
Bat Boy - much better than Cats. I'd see it again and again.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: mirth on March 01, 2015, 06:38:04 PM
Cats was stupid!
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: Gusington on March 01, 2015, 06:40:58 PM
Damn right it was. So was Starlight Express. But I kind of enjoyed that one when I was 11.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: mirth on March 01, 2015, 06:58:50 PM
I saw Cats in London on a school trip. It sucked. Who goes to London and sees Cats?!

At least I got laid in Edinburgh.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: Staggerwing on March 01, 2015, 07:12:58 PM
Was it Dolly, she of many, many curls?
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: GDS_Starfury on March 01, 2015, 07:15:34 PM
I'll call this one as complete bs.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: bayonetbrant on March 01, 2015, 07:20:58 PM
Quote from: mirth on March 01, 2015, 06:58:50 PM
I saw Cats in London on a school trip. It sucked. Who goes to London and sees Cats?!

At least I got laid in Edinburgh.

I saw Starlight Express in London on my honeymoon.  And I too, got laid in Edinburgh - same wife, different trip :)
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: mirth on March 01, 2015, 07:22:30 PM
The takeaway being that Edinburgh is gold for getting laid.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: Boggit on March 01, 2015, 07:41:16 PM
My post was not really relevant, so edited out. :-[
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: Centurion40 on March 01, 2015, 07:49:15 PM
Quote from: Steelgrave on March 01, 2015, 02:17:53 PM
You don't believe in Bigfoot???

I do. He's a regular Wack Pack guest on the Howard Stern Show.
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: LongBlade on March 01, 2015, 10:18:49 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on March 01, 2015, 04:56:18 PM
I've got at least once int'l source who is pretty well-dialed in who thinks it's completely crap.

That seems reasonable. The source breaking this doesn't make sense from any other perspective.

If Netanyahu were trying to pressure Obama into doing something, going to the Kuwaitis seems really oblique. Why not go to the NYT or WaPo?
Title: Re: Israel and Iran
Post by: Boggit on March 01, 2015, 11:13:26 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on March 01, 2015, 10:18:49 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on March 01, 2015, 04:56:18 PM
I've got at least once int'l source who is pretty well-dialed in who thinks it's completely crap.

That seems reasonable. The source breaking this doesn't make sense from any other perspective.

If Netanyahu were trying to pressure Obama into doing something, going to the Kuwaitis seems really oblique. Why not go to the NYT or WaPo?
Or directly even? It's not as though he doesn't have political clout unlike mere mortals.