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Title: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: Gusington on April 30, 2012, 10:46:34 AM
Snipers and missiles added to defense of London Olympic Games:

http://www.isportconnect.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11604&catid=14&Itemid=24

Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: mirth on April 30, 2012, 12:46:21 PM
Nother article on the missiles:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/04/wiredcouk-london-missile/ (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/04/wiredcouk-london-missile/)

Who wouldn't want a high velocity missile system on top of their apartment building? Useful for the Olympics and the Zombie Apocalypse.
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: LongBlade on April 30, 2012, 12:49:59 PM
I'm wondering if they're interested in giving us a Letter of Marque whereby we can help patrol the Thames and surrounding shores in our cruise ship?
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: Gusington on April 30, 2012, 01:14:57 PM
The HMS Ocean will actually be stationed in the Thames!

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.military-today.com%2Fnavy%2Fhms_ocean.jpg&hash=b05a330f8e3ced94dcf5f69a55365712b4c82168)
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: TheCommandTent on April 30, 2012, 07:19:50 PM
Missiles systems on top of apartment buildings, good for shooting down terrorist and those pesky birds that getting dropping their loads on your clean car.   ;D
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: Gusington on April 30, 2012, 08:20:37 PM
If I stop and think about it, it really is kind of sad that the Olympics have to be defended like this. But, such is the world we now live in.
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: TheCommandTent on April 30, 2012, 09:02:34 PM
Quote from: Gusington on April 30, 2012, 08:20:37 PM
If I stop and think about it, it really is kind of sad that the Olympics have to be defended like this. But, such is the world we now live in.

Way to bring the mood down....

In all seriousness I agree it is a sad commentary on current affairs.
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: Gusington on April 30, 2012, 09:04:37 PM
I'm curious as to what kind of security the Olympics (in the modern era) had in the past...1896, before WWI in 1912, the 1936 games, etc...
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: Staggerwing on April 30, 2012, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: Gusington on April 30, 2012, 09:04:37 PM
I'm curious as to what kind of security the Olympics (in the modern era) had in the past...1896, before WWI in 1912, the 1936 games, etc...

Well, we all know who provided Security Staffing for the 1936 Olympics. More specifically though, it was Reinhard Heydrich (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_record_of_Reinhard_Heydrich#The_peacetime_Heydrich) who was actually in charge.
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: Marty Ward on May 01, 2012, 09:14:32 AM
What exactly are these missle batteries suppose to defend against?
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: Gusington on May 01, 2012, 09:32:40 AM
^'Sup Marty. Welcome. The helicopter borne snipers are training to take out pilots of smaller planes on potential suicide missions. The deployed missiles are to defend against a 9/11 style attack.
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: Barthheart on May 01, 2012, 09:49:34 AM
Quote from: Gusington on May 01, 2012, 09:32:40 AM
...... The deployed missiles are to defend against a 9/11 style attack.

Hope not..... nothing like an airliner fulll of jet fuel exploding and raining down flaming debris over your city.....
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: Gusington on May 01, 2012, 09:52:18 AM
Article also mentions that the missiles are 'weapons of last resort' and need to be ordered into action by the Prime Minister.
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: Marty Ward on May 01, 2012, 03:28:19 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 01, 2012, 09:32:40 AM
^'Sup Marty. Welcome. The helicopter borne snipers are training to take out pilots of smaller planes on potential suicide missions. The deployed missiles are to defend against a 9/11 style attack.

Hi Gus. Just found the place.

Putting missle batteries on top of buildings to prevent an airplane from striking seems a bit dramatic to me.

Don't they have an air force to take out suspicious planes?
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: Gusington on May 01, 2012, 07:32:40 PM
Good question. Perhaps the RAF will be looking for...the Luftwaffe?
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: LongBlade on May 01, 2012, 07:43:24 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 01, 2012, 07:32:40 PM
Good question. Perhaps the RAF will be looking for...the Luftwaffe?

I didn't want to be the first to post this, but it seems to me that there is a slight possibility that they're preparing for the last war, not the next one.
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: Bison on May 01, 2012, 11:04:19 PM
Quote from: Marty Ward on May 01, 2012, 03:28:19 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 01, 2012, 09:32:40 AM
^'Sup Marty. Welcome. The helicopter borne snipers are training to take out pilots of smaller planes on potential suicide missions. The deployed missiles are to defend against a 9/11 style attack.

Hi Gus. Just found the place.

Putting missle batteries on top of buildings to prevent an airplane from striking seems a bit dramatic to me.

Don't they have an air force to take out suspicious planes?

Welcome Marty! 
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: 0kult13 on May 02, 2012, 01:48:20 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17829389
http://www.blowe.org.uk/2012/04/newhams-social-cleansing-inevitable.html

Missile batteries are just flare to distract attention away from the social cleansing being carried out in Olympic areas.
If there is to be some 'terrorist' event im guessing a dirty bomb on aug 1 due to esoteric 'day of the harvest' ties. Also why in the name of all the gods of olympus would a 'terrorist' attack the main games with all the security, when there are untold miles of unprotected railway track and communication lines. Not to mention the uk security forces have 40 old years of experiance dealing with well funded terrorists during the troubles, missiles really what nonsense.   
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: W8taminute on May 02, 2012, 09:08:16 AM
Quote from: Gusington on April 30, 2012, 08:20:37 PM
If I stop and think about it, it really is kind of sad that the Olympics have to be defended like this.

+1 brother...+1. 
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: W8taminute on May 02, 2012, 09:11:56 AM
Quote from: 0kult13 on May 02, 2012, 01:48:20 AM
Also why in the name of all the gods of olympus would a 'terrorist' attack the main games with all the security, when there are untold miles of unprotected railway track and communication lines. Not to mention the uk security forces have 40 old years of experiance dealing with well funded terrorists during the troubles, missiles really what nonsense.

You have a good point there.  It's sort of like Stalingrad isn't it?  You have elite troops heavily occupied in the city streets, while the less motivated/trained Rumanian and Italian forces in the outskirts are blown away by operation Uranus.  The damage is done without having to attack the main prize directly. 
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 02, 2012, 09:18:57 AM
I think it's naive to assume that all security assets will be posted in London at the main games.  This is just where heavy security will be most visible and send the greatest message to the public.  I have no doubt there will be others vigilantly watching the rest of the nation.

Still, terrorists would want to strike the actual games.  A successful attack here would have the greatest strategic and psychological effect.  Attacking an empty railroad station on the outskirts of town would be essentially meaningless.
Title: Re: 2012 London Olympics Becoming a Hard Target
Post by: Gusington on May 02, 2012, 09:47:18 AM
I agree.

LB has a point with "fighting the last war" too. In my mind terrorists are constantly evolving because if they don't, they'll be countered immediately. They should know that they can't get away with another Munich '72 type attack as well as another 9/11 type attack.

The job of the defense analysts and officers protecting us is partly to predict the next threat. I'm sure they know a whole lot that we don't, and that somewhere along the line missiles were recommended.

Doesn't hurt that they also send a message to both the public and 'the enemy' at the same time.