As I have once again been remanded to burning at the stake for not having seen some minor, poorly watched, and soon to be cancelled television show called, 'Firefly,' I began to think, "What is the definition of a grog?" To me, it would be someone who is well read in history and geography, keeps up with current events and plays games of a 'war,' type nature. There are other things as well. I've been pilloried for not having seen movies like, 'Saving Private Ryan,' 'The Longest Day,' or whatever that Brad Pitt tank movie was called. As if, not having watched them makes me less of a grog.
So, in the spirit of finding out what one defines a 'grog,' I ask you, gentle reader, what is a 'grog,' to you?
Grog cred and nerd cred are unrelated, though they often overlap. Your grog cred is not in question. However, by your own admission, you have missed or do not appreciate, some of the most monumental geek movies and shows of the last 30 years.
Fortunately for you, fire purifies. :P
And if you ever again refer to Firefly as 'minor', we will find you :)
Quote from: MetalDog on March 31, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
As I have once again been remanded to burning at the stake for not having seen some minor, poorly watched, and soon to be cancelled television show called, 'Firefly,'...
I don't know what exactly it takes to be a 'grog' but I with you concerning that 'western' [literally] in space [literally].
Quote from: mirth on March 31, 2015, 07:20:24 PM
And if you ever again refer to Firefly as 'minor', we will find you :)
:P
And grog and nerd cred have been freely interchanged as one and the same here for some time. So :P again.
Quote from: MetalDog on March 31, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
... As if, not having watched them makes me less of a grog.
...
No that just makes you less of a man. ;)
Gorgs must know the difference between a PzKfw IIIe and a PZkfw IIIh.
They must know where in the world Velikiye Luki is.
They must know why the Battle of Marathon turned out the way it did or why the American's prevailed at Midway.
They must understand why a land war in Asia is a bad thing.
They must understand why the Charge of the Light Brigade happened.
They must play board wargames to get a better understanding all the above.
They must be able to nitpick the battle dress of Aztec warrior that faced the Spanish.
Know what the horns of the attack are in relation to the Zulus.
Be able to construct drinking games around the Battle of Stalingrad.
Be able to play the same damn game for weeks on end and have no winner at the end of it all.
But most of all be able to take and dish abuse with his friends about what it means to be a Grog. :D
Oh and like puns. :2funny:
Quote from: MetalDog on March 31, 2015, 07:34:39 PM
Quote from: mirth on March 31, 2015, 07:20:24 PM
And if you ever again refer to Firefly as 'minor', we will find you :)
:P
And grog and nerd cred have been freely interchanged as one and the same here for some time. So :P again.
At one time or another, we've all benefited by the low standards established here.
Now go watch Firefly! And don't bitch about it being a western in space! It's supposed to be ya dumbass!
I think Bart pretty much covered the basics. O0
What Bart said...
One man has the rifle, the other has the ammunition.
One man falls, the other carries on...
*BLAM*
DRINK!
Best,
Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)
Quote from: Barthheart on March 31, 2015, 07:38:12 PM
They must understand why a land war in Asia is a bad thing
Because Vizzini said it was!
And no MD, I don't expect you to know who Vizzini is ::)
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on March 31, 2015, 08:05:25 PM
I think Bart pretty much covered the basics. O0
+1 I might throw Bourbon onto the list somehow, but that's just nitpicking.
Quote from: Barthheart on March 31, 2015, 07:38:12 PM
Oh and like puns. :2funny:
Die in a ditch. :tickedoff:
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Quote from: Barthheart on March 31, 2015, 07:38:12 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on March 31, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
... As if, not having watched them makes me less of a grog.
...
No that just makes you less of a man. ;)
Gorgs must know the difference between a PzKfw IIIe and a PZkfw IIIh.
They must know where in the world Velikiye Luki is.
They must know why the Battle of Marathon turned out the way it did or why the American's prevailed at Midway.
They must understand why a land war in Asia is a bad thing.
They must understand why the Charge of the Light Brigade happened.
They must play board wargames to get a better understanding all the above.
They must be able to nitpick the battle dress of Aztec warrior that faced the Spanish.
Know what the horns of the attack are in relation to the Zulus.
Be able to construct drinking games around the Battle of Stalingrad.
Be able to play the same damn game for weeks on end and have no winner at the end of it all.
But most of all be able to take and dish abuse with his friends about what it means to be a Grog. :D
Oh and like puns. :2funny:
Very inspirational, Barthheart! You had me until the puns. Now, it's Warlock at 20 hexes >:(
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 31, 2015, 09:25:20 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on March 31, 2015, 07:38:12 PM
Oh and like puns. :2funny:
Die in a ditch. :tickedoff:
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I always knew I liked you :)
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 31, 2015, 09:25:20 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on March 31, 2015, 07:38:12 PM
Oh and like puns. :2funny:
Die in a ditch. :tickedoff:
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Is that a Punffin?
Quote from: MetalDog on March 31, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
As I have once again been remanded to burning at the stake for not having seen some minor, poorly watched, and soon to be cancelled television show called, 'Firefly,' I began to think, "What is the definition of a grog?" To me, it would be someone who is well read in history and geography, keeps up with current events and plays games of a 'war,' type nature. There are other things as well. I've been pilloried for not having seen movies like, 'Saving Private Ryan,' 'The Longest Day,' or whatever that Brad Pitt tank movie was called. As if, not having watched them makes me less of a grog.
So, in the spirit of finding out what one defines a 'grog,' I ask you, gentle reader, what is a 'grog,' to you?
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
Burnt at the stake is too good for you my friend!!
"minor" and "poorly watched" are two words that deserve no place in the same sentence as the utterly superb Firefly and why in God's good name have you not seen SPR yet? It's absolutely stunning as a visual fest and the story ain't too bad neither.
You need to get your house in order ;D
I have to say, missing Saving Private Ryan is a travesty. What an awesome movie.
I dunno, there's levels of grog that can really piss me off like people who won't play or complain about games because the buttons on the Austrian skirmishers uniform is wrong - there once was a huge thread over at battlefront about the stock of the m1 - just play the damn game!!!
I think, as the name suggests I'm more of a geek than a grog, I love wargames but don't care if the 1812 scenario has the flag that wasn't designed until 1813
But then my geek is weak occasionally, as I didn't even know what firefly was until chatting with the fine gents on here, couldn't tell you which system boba fetts armour came from or be one of those that insisted Ewan mcgregors mole be paint shopped out because Alec Guiness didn't have one
^ I'm with you.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on April 01, 2015, 12:24:19 AM
Quote from: MetalDog on March 31, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
As I have once again been remanded to burning at the stake for not having seen some minor, poorly watched, and soon to be cancelled television show called, 'Firefly,' I began to think, "What is the definition of a grog?" To me, it would be someone who is well read in history and geography, keeps up with current events and plays games of a 'war,' type nature. There are other things as well. I've been pilloried for not having seen movies like, 'Saving Private Ryan,' 'The Longest Day,' or whatever that Brad Pitt tank movie was called. As if, not having watched them makes me less of a grog.
So, in the spirit of finding out what one defines a 'grog,' I ask you, gentle reader, what is a 'grog,' to you?
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
Burnt at the stake is too good for you my friend!!
"minor" and "poorly watched" are two words that deserve no place in the same sentence as the utterly superb Firefly and why in God's good name have you not seen SPR yet? It's absolutely stunning as a visual fest and the story ain't too bad neither.
You need to get your house in order ;D
Thanks, JD. You're not the first to suggest just such a thing :)
As for what I watch or don't watch, it's mostly what tickles my fancy when the tv is on. Very little to nothing, makes me turn my tv on now. The only things I make appointment viewing are Game of Thrones and Last Week Tonight with John Oliver. Oh, Veep and Silicon Valley, too. Basically HBO's Sunday night lineup. And now that baseball season is almost here, I'll have the ball game on. That's it.
Quote from: MetalDog on April 01, 2015, 06:09:14 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on April 01, 2015, 12:24:19 AM
Quote from: MetalDog on March 31, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
As I have once again been remanded to burning at the stake for not having seen some minor, poorly watched, and soon to be cancelled television show called, 'Firefly,' I began to think, "What is the definition of a grog?" To me, it would be someone who is well read in history and geography, keeps up with current events and plays games of a 'war,' type nature. There are other things as well. I've been pilloried for not having seen movies like, 'Saving Private Ryan,' 'The Longest Day,' or whatever that Brad Pitt tank movie was called. As if, not having watched them makes me less of a grog.
So, in the spirit of finding out what one defines a 'grog,' I ask you, gentle reader, what is a 'grog,' to you?
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
Burnt at the stake is too good for you my friend!!
"minor" and "poorly watched" are two words that deserve no place in the same sentence as the utterly superb Firefly and why in God's good name have you not seen SPR yet? It's absolutely stunning as a visual fest and the story ain't too bad neither.
You need to get your house in order ;D
Thanks, JD. You're not the first to suggest just such a thing :)
As for what I watch or don't watch, it's mostly what tickles my fancy when the tv is on. Very little to nothing, makes me turn my tv on now. The only things I make appointment viewing are Game of Thrones and Last Week Tonight with John Oliver. Oh, Veep and Silicon Valley, too. Basically HBO's Sunday night lineup. And now that baseball season is almost here, I'll have the ball game on. That's it.
I'm very nearly almost ready to get a flight to the states and WALK to your house from wherever I land so that I can personally give you my Bluray copy of SPR - it's
THAT good
:2funny:
Good, then I'll give you my Firefly boxed set together with 'Serenity' and you can pass those on to him as well!
Quote from: MetalDog on March 31, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
So, in the spirit of finding out what one defines a 'grog,' I ask you, gentle reader, what is a 'grog,' to you?
Some kind of watered down alcoholic beverage, heated a bit with fire?
I don't drink, so I could be wrong about the specifics, but I feel like that's pretty close based on things I've read... ::)
Quote from: MetalDog on March 31, 2015, 07:13:50 PMwhat is a 'grog,' to you?
someone who bothers to occasionally read the front page at GROGheads :tickedoff:
Great question Dawg,
I consider myself a minor league grog.
A supreme grog, in my mind, is someone who knows the World's history of conflict, not just dates, technology, strategy/tactics, kit and stats, but also the politics, culture and socio-economic conditions lending themselves to the conflicts. They can tell you why the JIN played second fiddle to the Army despite having amazing successes.
Most importantly, they game with this knowledge.
Knowing/loving Firefly is nerd cred, not grog cred. Knowing/loving Panzer Leader is grog cred, not nerd cred.
Quote from: bayonetbrant on April 01, 2015, 12:51:53 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on March 31, 2015, 07:13:50 PMwhat is a 'grog,' to you?
someone who bothers to occasionally read the front page at GROGheads :tickedoff:
I told you I was a minor leaguer....
Quote from: bayonetbrant on April 01, 2015, 12:51:53 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on March 31, 2015, 07:13:50 PMwhat is a 'grog,' to you?
someone who bothers to occasionally read the front page at GROGheads :tickedoff:
There's a front page at Grogheads?!! :o
it's just a myth
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^^^^
note, that's nerd cred, if you get the reference
Quote from: bayonetbrant on April 01, 2015, 01:06:39 PM
^^^^
note, that's nerd cred, if you get the reference
Yeth it is.
FWIW
MetalDog, I won't crucify you for not having sat down and watched Firefly -- heck, I still haven't seen all the episodes myself (although I've enjoyed the ones I have). I honestly do feel you may be doing yourself a disservice in not having done so, however.
As for
Saving Private Ryan...well, just let us know when you've watched it so you can reclaim your manhood. :P
Quote from: Windigo on April 01, 2015, 12:57:25 PM
I consider myself a minor league grog.
I'd say the same for myself as well.
I'm pretty good when it comes to general knowledge of the better-known wars/conflicts/battles (and a fair number of lesser-known ones as well). However, I'm admittedly somewhat apathetic when it comes to minutiae; I've never felt a pressing need to know the difference between the uniforms worn by the French army in 1754 versus 1770, for example.
(I'm a
major-league geek, however... :D )