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Title: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on April 01, 2015, 10:29:12 PM

Ok, this will be an ongoing DAR of my "Wargame Table (cat proof)" project; for those interested in perhaps making something similar.


As you may recall, I made a version of this table some time ago and posted pictures of it here.  I'll refresh your memories (or show you for the first time) what I currently have:


The full table:


(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgarykrockover.com%2Fuploads%2FGame_Table1.jpg&hash=30a1a3af3a801e27e10291749d256f6d71497c1b)


The top removes in sections to reveal an inner table top for setting up a game that can't be disturbed by children (possibly) or felines (absolutely):


(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgarykrockover.com%2Fuploads%2FGame_Table2.jpg&hash=8c13492051b42ff918c1805ed4ce0366b8486ec2)


And with the top completely removed:


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This was a table that I picked up at Goodwill for dirt cheap.  I made some modifications (I widened the table by cutting it in half and then adding some length as is noticeable in the picture above.  This works great, however it's a tad bit small for any game of medium to large map size.  So, I had been keeping an eye out for a new table to become my next project.  I found it last weekend:


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A beauty, huh?!?!  The size is perfect and for reasons that I'll show you in shortly, this is a perfect candidate for the "cat proof" modification.  Unfortunately, the finish on the table was in bad shape and will need to go.  I picked up this table from Goodwill also for $25.00.


So first I needed some materials from the local Home Depot.  I'll need the board that will become my "inner" table.  I picked up a large sheet - I could of gotten by with half this sheet but I'll wind up using it for another project some day (actually thinking of making a replica of the Alamo for miniatures gaming with what I have left).  Not cheap, but that's ok:


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A few more needed items.  Finish stripper, new finish (I'm going with "Gunstock"...perfect!), steel wool to strip the old finish off with, a new brush and some nails for attaching the inner table as I'll show you later.


(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgarykrockover.com%2Fuploads%2FWGT_3.jpg&hash=4a5232153ee977d373e94700c393ac15a0264a0d)


Ok, so what made this table a perfect candidate?  The underside.  This table will be quite easy to make the needed modifications to because the whole thing comes apart quite simply by removing all the hardware (screws and bolts).


(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgarykrockover.com%2Fuploads%2FWGT_4.jpg&hash=185b7a8bba3aab85aaea7af5a4635b3c867a6c8f)


A close up of the legs and inner frame.  Piece of cake.


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And of course the table even comes with gum stuck to the underside.  "Johnny, spit out your gum when you're at the dinner table!"


(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgarykrockover.com%2Fuploads%2FWGT_6.jpg&hash=bdf70dca017e829f302b6b2210e4ce14f3da5c75)


So here we have the legs removed.


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And now, before removing the inner frame, I outline it on the underside of the table top.  We'll need to know exactly where it lined up previously for part of the modification process.


(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgarykrockover.com%2Fuploads%2FWGT_8.jpg&hash=bed351d56a1c1ddd7ba97f9755e4eca1e31db749)


And now I remove the inner frame.  It was held in by a number of wood screws and luckily wasn't glued.


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Now the FUN part....not.  Stripping the old finish off.  The remover is a goop that is messy, smelly and will burn the crap out of you if you get it on your skin.  I went thru two pairs of gloves during this process.  Here's two of the inner frame side by side, one stripped and one with the original (and scratched) finish.


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The table top all stripped and sanded.  Yes, there was some warping but that was taken care of by soaking the top in water and then sandwiching it between two heavy pieces of particle board.


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The legs were a bitch, I'm not gonna lie to you, but the finish came off.  I will have to sand these by hand (yet to be done as of the moment).


(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgarykrockover.com%2Fuploads%2FWGT_12.jpg&hash=591754df6b490cae5239b3b4fd867ab4c842ee6c)


I omitted a picture here (forgot to take it) but before I disassembled the inner frame, I traced the outside of it to the sheet of board that I purchased from Home Depot.  I then cut just inside the lines to get what will become my inner table top.  It is angled in the corners so that the legs can reattach.


(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgarykrockover.com%2Fuploads%2FWGT_13.jpg&hash=17eca258ee25b61283544adbdbda0bd78f39f611)


And then I temporarily attached it to the inner frame.  I did this so that I could sand any of the edges that were overlapping from a not so perfect cut.  Fortunately, there wasn't much.  I attached it temporarily and then disassembled it all again because it will be easier to apply the new finish to the individual pieces instead of it together as a whole.


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And I should of flipped it over to show what the playing surface will look like, but that will come with the next batch of pictures so stay tuned!





Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: bbmike on April 02, 2015, 09:32:30 AM
Actually I'd love to have the plans for building your first, smaller table. I don't have much space but that looks like the perfect size!
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on April 02, 2015, 10:33:58 AM
Hey Mike, the process is the same no matter what size table.  Just find one that has an easy to remove table top and you're in business.  Check Goodwill and thrift stores - I see suitable tables all the time for a reasonable price.
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: bbmike on April 02, 2015, 11:13:31 AM
Yeah, I was just thinking I do have an old table. It's too big but I bet I could modify it...  >:D
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on April 02, 2015, 12:37:08 PM
Like with my smaller version, it was basically a square table and not at all suitable for most any size game so I removed the top and cut the inner frame in half and added about 8" of length on the two sides and made it rectangular.  I then just made my own table top for it out of pine.  You could do the same but simply cut out a length on two of the sides to shorten the table.  Then either cut the counter top to fit or make a new one after you add the bottom to the inner frame.
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: Mad Russian on April 04, 2015, 11:06:17 AM
Wouldn't it be easier to just get rid of the cat?? :D

Seriously, that's a nice looking table.

Good Hunting.

MR
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: Nefaro on April 04, 2015, 03:55:16 PM
Quote from: Mad Russian on April 04, 2015, 11:06:17 AM
Wouldn't it be easier to just get rid of the cat?? :D

Seriously, that's a nice looking table.

Good Hunting.

MR


LOL!


I wasn't gonna propose it, but that is a lot of work for cat prevention.  ;D
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on April 04, 2015, 04:03:31 PM
It's a lot of work to punch, sort and clip counters and laminate charts and print rulebooks so that I can write in it while learning a new boargame but it's a fun part of the process.  I could just get rid of boardgames altogether and stick with my cat and computer games....but nah...building a special table is all worth it.  :)
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on April 05, 2015, 10:34:05 AM
Not a lot done for the project this weekend as it's wet and chilly but I did finish sanding the legs:

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(unsanded on left)

So really all that is left to do is to put the new finish on, sealer (going with a gloss) and then assemble the pieces once dry.  I'll uploads pics of the final results once that is done.  Actually, there is one more step that I can possibly do today if the weather clears up and that is to put the guide 'rails' on the underside of the table top.  Remember that we traced the outline of the inner table to the underside of the table top?  Well I'll use those marks to glue some wood pieces that will fit just inside the inner table when the table top is in place.  That will keep it from sliding around.  Pics showing what I'm talking about there once I've added those.
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: W8taminute on April 05, 2015, 11:06:03 AM
I admire your passion for your hobby and your cat.  I have two cats of my own so I can appreciate your work.   O0


That table you bought for $25 looks very similar to the table we have in our kitchen that I bought new from Crate and Barrel for about $250!
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: Staggerwing on April 05, 2015, 11:54:05 AM
Gary, do you plan to trim the bolts (and poss. cap them) after assembly so they don't stick out onto the gaming surface? Or are you going to cover them up somehow?

If you trimmed them and then covered them with small triangular shelves you could make the shelves drink holders or shallow dice trays or something similar.
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on April 05, 2015, 01:00:20 PM
Interesting idea Stagger.  I hadn't really worried about the bolts sticking out over the playing surface since it's an angled corner and that I likely wouldn't have a map going underneath them.  I certainly could hacksaw them shorter and may do just that or maybe something as you suggest, making little corner holders for cups or what have you.  Good ideas, I'll think on that one.
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on July 15, 2015, 10:25:40 PM

Ok, resuming my Wargame Table Project (WGP) now that we've moved in to our new house and I have a mancave garage from which to work out of.  No, I don't have a lathe (yet).


So I was at the point that I was ready to begin staining but wanted to wait until after the move.  I selected a color of stain that I thought looked good and was appropriately named:


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First coat on the tabletop and a LIGHT sanding (400 grit) after it had dried:


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A second coat was applied and then lightly sanded as well.  Then a polyurethane (clear gloss) was applied with a new stainer/glaze sprayer that I purchased ($60 Home Depot - not needed for the project but puts a nice smooth coat on with no bubbles).  This is what it looks like after the first glaze:


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That took a week to dry and was then lightly sanded and a 2nd coat was applied for thorough protection:


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The finished tabletop:


(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.garykrockover.com%2Fuploads%2FWGT_21.jpg&hash=264d5b29fc573da951eb9edc9b970bc1a20e279a)


And legs:


(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.garykrockover.com%2Fuploads%2FWGT_22.jpg&hash=067ee6df4649053c4dba66244a6f53114e9a99b6)


Midstream, I had an idea for the tabletop.  Instead of having to lift it off to play every time, I wanted it to open up like a baby grand piano with the inside of the table exposed.  I thought about how I would do this night after night while laying in bed and then the solution finally came to me.  I picked up a pair of stainless drawer handle pulls from the hardware store and some stainless hooks.  I wanted the tabletop to have the hooks that will be open ended towards the drawer handles so that I could lift the table top from one end or even remove it completely, easily.  I have some additional hardware that will allow me to "lock" the lid in the open position and I will include pictures of that assembly once it is all done.


Here's the drawer pulls set inside one of the long side inner frames.  I used a router to dig out the hole/slot for it to fit in to:


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So because of that change midstream, I had to resand and have begun to refinish the inner frame.  That is out drying at this moment.


Here's sort of a visual of how this will work.  If you can imagine this hook mounted to the underside of the table top, it will be sitting in this position (I need to flatten out the hook a bit to make the table top sit flush with the inner side:


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And when the lid opens, the hook will swing around the drawer handle that is embedded in to the inner side:


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Again, some hardware (whatever the thing was called, found them online; pictures later) allows me to "lock" the tabletop in the up position.


So, next set of pictures should be the finished project.  I'm currently waiting on the first (re)coat of finish to dry on the inner side boards and then will sand, apply another coat and perhaps another until it is the same deep color as the legs and table top and then will put the whole thing together, including the piece that will sit inside that the games will go on.  I'm thinking of putting a felt cover over it but haven't decided as of yet.
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: Nefaro on July 16, 2015, 11:27:29 AM
This is coming along nicely.  O0
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: bayonetbrant on July 25, 2015, 01:58:24 PM
MORE PICS!!!!1!!1!
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on July 25, 2015, 08:44:45 PM
Vacation started yesterday - after the hangover I'll have the table finished...some time tomorrow or Monday.  :)
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: Mr. Bigglesworth on July 25, 2015, 11:17:46 PM
I like it. Cherry finish ( pic 1) is my favorite wood color.
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on July 26, 2015, 12:07:05 AM
Here you go Brant, a little teaser...

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.garykrockover.com%2Fuploads%2FWGT_25.jpg&hash=f84a435d16097a34a7d02e2b0e6581f7be3dd07f)
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: Bison on July 26, 2015, 12:51:54 AM
Looks great man.  How much does the table top weight?
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: undercovergeek on July 26, 2015, 04:20:50 AM
You know there's probably a market for these
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: LongBlade on July 26, 2015, 02:21:15 PM
Quote from: Mad Russian on April 04, 2015, 11:06:17 AM
Wouldn't it be easier to just get rid of the cat?? :D

+1

That's why I have dogs. (https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1081.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj349%2Flongblade%2FSmilies%2Fdog.gif&hash=705a1eb909fbd665cc4cec11d055e4045d3635e9)

Ah, but more seriously, that is a fine job you're doing. I'm not by nature inclined to be that handy, but it is within my ability. I'd be looking for something closer to 4' x 8' but you certainly have a solid idea. I might have to run down to Goodwill and see what they have lying around there. Could save me about $9000.
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: Mr. Bigglesworth on July 26, 2015, 02:29:33 PM
If you don't have cats you can rig a pulley system to lower setup games from the ceiling.
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on July 27, 2015, 11:27:20 PM
I moved the table in to the house today and set it up.   There may be some odds and ends that I add to it (tray or cup holders - ideas from that one expensive table making outfit). 

Overall, it was a very fun project and I learned quite a bit.  The finish came out better than I expected (which is hard to tell in these poorly lit pictures).  I had ordered a game mat from Amazon (some poker mat that was large enough) and turned it over so that the foam rubber part was face up.  Maps won't slide and it came out really nice I think. 

The table top is heavy.  Not extremely so but I mounted a handle to the underside to aid with the removal.  Playing solo, I just prop the table open as shown in these pictures.  If I were to seat somebody on the other side, the top will remove with just a lift from the handle.

With a bigger house (bigger game room) someday, I'll look for a larger table even.  I've seen some designs where the table top comes off in sections and they are layed out in a frame that makes up the side rails.  That would be what I opt for next with the larger table top.

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.garykrockover.com%2Fuploads%2FWGT_26.jpg&hash=5c108b822976b9f8394ecd7fb1230c3381a21829)


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Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: Bison on July 27, 2015, 11:29:41 PM
That is freaking awesome man.
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on July 27, 2015, 11:44:04 PM
Thanks!  One last one:

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Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: bbmike on July 28, 2015, 05:32:14 AM
Awesome job, sir!  O0
I just asked the wife what she thought about putting a small desk in our tiny guest room and she liked the idea. My nefarious plan is now in motion...
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on July 28, 2015, 05:47:03 AM
I had to retire the smaller version of this new table as I just have no place to put it.  I'd like to redo the top for it which would be very easy to do but otherwise it's a great little wargaming table for smaller (single map) games.  Fortunately the legs come off easy enough as well as the top of course so I'll probably just store it in the attic until the 16 yr old leaves the house in a couple of years.  Then I just have to get that woman that keeps hanging around here to leave as well and then I can build and put wargaming tables in every room!  (Kidding honey, you can stay! :)  ).
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: Rekim on July 28, 2015, 06:21:04 AM
Sweet table Gary. I hope you get lots of use from it.

wrt the idea of adding a cup holder, I was thinking that it would be easy to fashion one that would hang from the table side when the top is up. I did something similar with my wargaming bench and use it all the time. When playing games FtF on the dining room table it is inevitable that some coffee or pops will be enjoyed, but am always nervous of an accident.
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on July 28, 2015, 06:40:35 AM
Here's some ideas Mike if you're looking to build your own:

This is a project that is very similar to mine except that he built the table entirely from scratch.  This includes plans:

http://fackrelltrio.blogspot.com/2012/09/gaming-table.html?m=1

I still say just keep an eye out at Goodwill or Salvation Army or used furniture stores.  Maybe I'm just lucky but in this area there is half a dozen Goodwill's all within easy reach and I see prospective wargaming tables all the time.  My girl jokes because we'll walk in to a Goodwill and she'll "shoo" me off with her hand because she knows that I'm going immediately to the furniture section to look at tables.

This one I really like and may try and replicate it some day.  I like the way that the table top is a series of easy to remove boards that are inlaid in to a frame.  Full plans here as well.  The more that I look at these plans, the more that I feel like I cheated by finding the perfect pre-made table!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-oWxvSaecAAQ2VTS3FfM2FjdVE/edit

Another similar design.  Very nicely done here!
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1273302/why-not-heres-my-geek-table

I found this site which has a couple of designs that are about half the price of the "geek-chic" designs:  https://www.boardgametables.com/features

Of interest was their research for the perfect table size.  Their rectangle table has a 35 by 60 inch playing surface on the inside which would be about right.  My table is 30" x 55" on the inside which is just a tad too small to fit a standard mapsheet lengthwise (longways).  So if you're designing from scratch, that might be something to keep in mind (provided that you have the room size for it - the table that I have now at its size eats up a good bit of my little man cave as is.

Of course you could get carried away and just go with something like this:

https://wargamingworkshop.wordpress.com/gaming/wargaming-room/

Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on July 28, 2015, 06:43:10 AM
Quote from: Rekim on July 28, 2015, 06:21:04 AM
Sweet table Gary. I hope you get lots of use from it.

wrt the idea of adding a cup holder, I was thinking that it would be easy to fashion one that would hang from the table side when the top is up. I did something similar with my wargaming bench and use it all the time. When playing games FtF on the dining room table it is inevitable that some coffee or pops will be enjoyed, but am always nervous of an accident.

That's a great idea and I immediately thought of this simple solution (I had no idea that they even still made these!):

http://tinyurl.com/ngjmxnq

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F419bhBhoStL._SY450_.jpg&hash=2b5242524c43da7ff0ee29b788fdc05a62ae7304)
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: bbmike on July 28, 2015, 06:53:22 AM
Thanks for those links! I don't think I could pull off the Wargaming Room though.  ;D
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: LongBlade on July 28, 2015, 09:16:45 AM
Quote from: GJK on July 28, 2015, 06:40:35 AM
I found this site which has a couple of designs that are about half the price of the "geek-chic" designs:  https://www.boardgametables.com/features

Actually they aren't much different than Geek Chic.

The tables they have are more or less equivalent to the Portal: https://www.boardgametables.com/features

I added some cup holders, a couple of drawers and a cover to the Board Game Tables table and it came out to $3k and change. I didn't closely examine the specs for exact size, but according to Geek Chic's website Portals commonly run from $2k to $3k depending on size, add-ons, and any customization.

I still like your idea of shopping Goodwill - I have a table top that I got from a store that was closing down. It's fine for having a few folks around for D&D, but what I'd really like is something to host a serious minis game: 4' x 8'. Geek Chic has a less expensive option, the Spartan, which starts at $3800 and can go to about $5k. Still, I'd like a Vizier as it can easily double as a real dining room table. And, of course, the Sultan would be perfect for a big man cave.

Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on July 31, 2015, 08:36:57 PM
Found tonight in my weekly Goodwill table browsing session:

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.garykrockover.com%2Fuploads%2FWGT_30.jpg&hash=134a96f96a0b10b59c9d8141623c0acce96160a2)

$15.99.  Perfect table.  Approx the same size as the one that I just completed.  The top is secured by 8 screws from the underside; an easy converstion.  I was so tempted to grab it as back up but I just don't have the room for any more tables around here!  Point is, you can get some great tables for gaming for dirt cheap and if you have the desire, can easily modify them with extra goodies (hidden playing area, cup holders, etc).  Fun stuff!
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: Toonces on August 02, 2015, 09:48:47 AM
^ Oh, I thought you were talking about finding the howling dog statue.   ;)

Very nice job on the table, Gary.   O0
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on August 02, 2015, 12:24:40 PM
Thanks Toonce and hory cow, how'd I miss the howling coyote statue????  I'll have to race back to see if it's still there! :)
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 06, 2015, 04:25:18 PM
if you'd rather win a game table than have GJK make you one...

http://beautifulbrainsbooksandgames.us2.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=5cf3fb8c921807bc3f3c03794&id=d3fe5d5969
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: bbmike on August 06, 2015, 05:40:00 PM
Wait, I'd rather have GJK make me one.  :P
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on August 06, 2015, 06:50:53 PM
Man, I wish that I could mass produce those things!

Had to dig around to find what the Carolina tables look like - very nice indeed!  If you win it, do you cover shipping (which would have to be rather expensive I'd think)? 
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: Staggerwing on August 06, 2015, 07:10:04 PM
Quote from: GJK on August 06, 2015, 06:50:53 PM
Man, I wish that I could mass produce those things!

Had to dig around to find what the Carolina tables look like - very nice indeed!  If you win it, do you cover shipping (which would have to be rather expensive I'd think)?

Road Trip!

Uh, how big is the roof rack on your vehicle?
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 06, 2015, 07:28:29 PM
Quote from: GJK on August 06, 2015, 06:50:53 PM
Had to dig around to find what the Carolina tables look like - very nice indeed!  If you win it, do you cover shipping (which would have to be rather expensive I'd think)? 

No idea - I'm close enough to pick it up myself :)
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: LongBlade on August 06, 2015, 09:17:00 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on August 06, 2015, 04:25:18 PM
if you'd rather win a game table than have GJK make you one...

http://beautifulbrainsbooksandgames.us2.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=5cf3fb8c921807bc3f3c03794&id=d3fe5d5969

I'm not sure I ever found an image of what they're supposed to be giving away. What I found wasn't than impressive, so I'm guessing I didn't find it.

Got a link?
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 06, 2015, 10:13:28 PM
They had pix on Facebook. Posting from phone; not sure I can paste correctly
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on July 29, 2016, 03:32:52 PM
Pimped out the game table a little bit today...   ^-^


(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.garykrockover.com%2Fuploads%2FPimpin_Game_Table.jpg&hash=6824fb9c87f1faefce0a3ea6f21a029f40f76612)
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: panzerde on July 29, 2016, 04:27:01 PM
The light rope is a great idea. Does it give enough light to make the counters more visible?
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on July 29, 2016, 04:46:10 PM
Yes.  That pic was taken in a dark room.  Plus I have my overhead light that I can center on an area that needs attention.  Previously, I would have to turn on the light in the room plus use that overhead light - not anymore!
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: Nefaro on July 29, 2016, 04:57:20 PM
Looks like a JJ Star Trek movie set!   :P

Seriously, though, that's a great idea for what you have. 

Was getting sick of map/board glare on my table, coming from multiple lights on a ceiling fan directly above.  Don't have any convenient place for strip lights like that, unfortunately.    :-\   So I run a hanging lamp out to a strategically placed hook in the ceiling (off to the side a bit) before each gaming session.  Been thinking about getting another to hang from the other side and just turning the overheads off for better glare management.
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 29, 2016, 05:02:37 PM
When I get my Duchess, I'm going to add a Phillips Hue light strip around the Edge as you've done.  being able to adjust the colour and intensity should be great!
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on July 29, 2016, 05:16:52 PM
This is a "Commercial Electric" 18' Ribbon Light from Home Depot that I got ($50).  It's not a rope light- it is flat and it came with one side having self-adhesive.  It is controlled from a remote (even more cool!) from which you can adjust the intensity and also do light shows (colored LED, blinking, etc...stuff not needed here).  The shelf had a "New!" sign next to it and I don't even see it on the homedepot.com website so it must be a recently stocked item.
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: Nefaro on July 29, 2016, 05:41:08 PM
Amazon has all kinds of "LED Strip Lights" available.  The long flat strips with adhesive backing.  From around $10 and up.

Checked some of those out last year too, when looking for some extra lighting for the table. 



Had also found some outdoor rechargeable "faerie lights" (yes, that's what they listed as) at great prices, when I did.  Got a couple sets to run along the deck rails on the pool & second story decks.  Not very bright at all but they're mostly mood lighting for outdoor beer drinking at night and don't require being plugged in or batteries.   :)
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on July 29, 2016, 07:40:06 PM
Good finds, yup, see lots of "ribbon LED lights" that are very comparable to what I got for a lot cheaper.  Definitely the way to go.  Mine was a binge purchase though and no complaints here....works great and highly recommended if you have a "within table" game table.   
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: bayonetbrant on July 29, 2016, 08:39:54 PM
Quote from: GJK on July 29, 2016, 05:16:52 PMalso do light shows (colored LED, blinking, etc...stuff not needed here). 

I dunno, some intermittently flashing red LEDs during combat might be kinda cool.
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: GJK on July 29, 2016, 08:51:03 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on July 29, 2016, 08:39:54 PM
Quote from: GJK on July 29, 2016, 05:16:52 PMalso do light shows (colored LED, blinking, etc...stuff not needed here). 

I dunno, some intermittently flashing red LEDs during combat might be kinda cool.


It is pretty cool actually.  Not best for game table play I don't think but here's the thought...your opponent is taking much too long to make a move...I hit the remote and start flashing the lights...now that will be a cool way to say "hurry up!".  :)
Title: Re: A wargame table project 'DAR' (how to)...make your own cat proof game table!
Post by: bayonetbrant on July 29, 2016, 09:02:38 PM
we just start playing the Jeopardy theme on a loop