Anybody following this?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/04/us/garland-mohammed-drawing-contest-shooting/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/04/us/garland-mohammed-drawing-contest-shooting/index.html)
Too early to really make any informed judgements other than that off-duty cop has to be an incredibly good shot.
Yeah, I've been following it.
Quote
The two men carrying assault rifles began shooting at a police car at the event in Garland, Texas, on Sunday. They were shot dead by an off-duty traffic officer with a pistol, Garland Police spokesman Joe Harn said at a news conference.
Event officials paid $10,000 for security at the event. The officer who fatally shot the two gunmen likely saved lives, Harn said. He wouldn't release the name of the officer, but said "his reaction, and his shooting with a pistol, he did a good job."
Because of the provocative nature of the cartoon event, a bomb squad, the FBI, a SWAT team and the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were all in place at the event Sunday in case of any incidents, police revealed.
The two gunmen were killed after opening fire outside the contest venue and a bomb squad was called in to search their vehicle as a precaution, authorities said. No bombs were found.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/prophet-muhammad-cartoon-shooting-police-had-planned-security-for-months-1.3059927
I'm waiting for more info on the attackers.
Quote
The two men carrying assault rifles began shooting at a police car at the event in Garland, Texas, on Sunday. They were shot dead by an off-duty traffic officer with a pistol, Garland Police spokesman Joe Harn said at a news conference.
Event officials paid $10,000 for security at the event. The officer who fatally shot the two gunmen likely saved lives, Harn said. He wouldn't release the name of the officer, but said "his reaction, and his shooting with a pistol, he did a good job."
Because of the provocative nature of the cartoon event, a bomb squad, the FBI, a SWAT team and the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were all in place at the event Sunday in case of any incidents, police revealed.
The two gunmen were killed after opening fire outside the contest venue and a bomb squad was called in to search their vehicle as a precaution, authorities said. No bombs were found.
I have to say...that sounds almost like an ambush set up by law enforcement.
Texas has figured out how to eliminate domestic Islamic Terrorism: set a trap. Great job. Plenty more left to perforate. O0
Posted by 'ChiJohn' at the Drive-Thru:
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.maddogdrivethru.net%2Fdownload%2Ffile.php%3Fid%3D2155%26amp%3Bmode%3Dview&hash=cdd64ae0dc20fea199690ff5e77881ab58e60364)
;D
Quote from: Nefaro on May 04, 2015, 02:24:47 PM
Posted by 'ChiJohn' at the Drive-Thru:
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.maddogdrivethru.net%2Fdownload%2Ffile.php%3Fid%3D2155%26amp%3Bmode%3Dview&hash=cdd64ae0dc20fea199690ff5e77881ab58e60364)
;D
Chuckle.
(https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11188306_422006231315082_6305057143611471680_n.jpg?oh=04eec46aeba8d2a3f9d8a1f939555e3f&oe=55C6F902)
Quote from: Nefaro on May 04, 2015, 02:24:47 PM
Texas has figured out how to eliminate domestic Islamic Terrorism: set a trap. Great job. Plenty more left to perforate. O0
Posted by 'ChiJohn' at the Drive-Thru:
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.maddogdrivethru.net%2Fdownload%2Ffile.php%3Fid%3D2155%26amp%3Bmode%3Dview&hash=cdd64ae0dc20fea199690ff5e77881ab58e60364)
;D
Yeah, that was kinda my first thought. O0
Quote
After Texas Shootings, Far-Right Dutchman Now in the Center of U.S. Free Speech Debate
http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/05/04/after-texas-shootings-far-right-dutchman-now-in-the-center-of-u-s-free-speech-debate/?wp_login_redirect=0
Quote from: bayonetbrant on May 04, 2015, 03:40:23 PM
(https://scontent-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11188306_422006231315082_6305057143611471680_n.jpg?oh=04eec46aeba8d2a3f9d8a1f939555e3f&oe=55C6F902)
O0
These two holy warriors were clearly not the brightest. In their communications they could not spell mujahadeen. And well there's the whole attacking anything in Texas. Good riddance.
If every civilized person everywhere would mock Muhammad, all day every day, the extremist Muslims would all get themselves killed or else suffer spontaneous head explosions from the sheer horror of having their tiny worldview so terribly violated. A few would actually get over themselves and come a bit closer to the 21st century.
Then all the peaceful Muslims and other good people could skip into the future, holding hands, and not having to look over their shoulders for any more terrorists.
Quote from: Ubercat on May 05, 2015, 08:59:17 AM
If every civilized person everywhere would mock Muhammad, all day every day, the extremist Muslims would all get themselves killed or else suffer spontaneous head explosions from the sheer horror of having their tiny worldview so terribly violated. A few would actually get over themselves and come a bit closer to the 21st century.
Then all the peaceful Muslims and other good people could skip into the future, holding hands, and not having to look over their shoulders for any more terrorists.
That's a nice thought. O0
It is a nice thought, but you go first Uber. Mock that douchebag. ;) >:D
Quote from: Ubercat on May 05, 2015, 08:59:17 AM
If every civilized person everywhere would mock Muhammad, all day every day, the extremist Muslims would all get themselves killed or else suffer spontaneous head explosions from the sheer horror of having their tiny worldview so terribly violated. A few would actually get over themselves and come a bit closer to the 21st century.
Then all the peaceful Muslims and other good people could skip into the future, holding hands, and not having to look over their shoulders for any more terrorists.
How eloquent! Do you have a book of philosophy on Amazon?
Quote from: Centurion40 on May 05, 2015, 09:18:18 AM
It is a nice thought, but you go first Uber. Mock that douchebag. ;) >:D
I knew that was coming. ;D
I would, except that I have a family. If I were alone, you can bet that I'd be first in line.
...we all know its not allowed to make a picture of Mu.ham.mad. but maybe its allowed to make a scent?
how would the scent be named? ...Sharia No.5 :2funny:
(well you really don't want to knwo how a camel-jockey of the 7th century actually smelt after spending a month on a local hill in the dessert eventually smarting up his pipe dreams ... i leave it up to your imagination ;D)
Here's the winning entry:
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fadmin.americanthinker.com%2Fimages%2Fbucket%2F2015-05%2F194522_5_.png&hash=b7b2266f2b3e83717cf471579c0772c1f481b9ba)
Appropriate.
Jon Stewart's take is hilarious.
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/c54ewk/to-shoot-or-not-to-shoot---fear-and-absent-danger
I'd just observe that the artists were:
1. Not muslims
2. Not making the images for the purposes of worship
3. Not making defamatory images - on the basis that the dead are incapable of being defamed
Consequently,
1. As non-muslims, they cannot be blasphemous, as they do not follow that faith
2. Do not undermine the hadith in respect of making an image of worship - at worst they might be accused of making an image for ridicule, but that is not the same as the prohibition on making an image for worship
3. If the images are not defamatory, what really is the basis of any anger, other than a supposed criticism of a religion? If members of a religion are incapable of dealing with criticism in a non-extreme way then society has a problem with it, for its own safety.
Conclusion. You need to decide what level of threat members of this religion pose society as a whole, and act proportionally to protect both the wider society - as well as members of the religion who are not a threat. When you consider this instant situation, it could have gone very differently, and with a very bloody outcome, as has happened elsewhere. IS are a very clever, successful, and brutal opponent. You have to have a well thought out response.
I'm a little late to the show, but having seen this clip on Youtube I just had to share it
I'm with Bill Whittle on this one.
I don't know what nauseates me the most. Islamic terrorists or their apologists in western media and politics.
^That...is a tough call.
We should plaster cities with the posters of the winning picture.
Quote from: Gusington on May 11, 2015, 07:57:02 PM
^That...is a tough call.
It had better not be......but I get the sentiment.
It really is though...how anyone could apologize for Islamofascists is beyond me.
Quote from: Gusington on May 12, 2015, 01:09:23 PM
...how anyone could apologize for Islamofascists is beyond me.
Agreed.
But that seems to be in style with some sizable portion of the western populace these days.
I think it stems from decades of political correctness being pushed in our culture, to the detriment of people actually using their own thinker and simple reasoning. Programmed to be overly sensitive to any perceived victimhood, thus making many easily susceptible to any such implication or spin.
It's existed for quite awhile, as evidenced by the sizable numbers of westerners who are sympathetic to the so-caled "Palestinians" despite the hostility and ill will they've received from such Islamic groups.
well its been known for a long time here that all the good people with all the right oppinions, somehow never seem to live near arab enklaves, or indeed have their kids going to schools in districts with majority of arab muslims.
In fact the same politicians WHO berates parents for taking their children out of schools with a majory of arab emigrants, for some reason seem to do it themselves. Only their children are speciel cases, where as we the ordinary people are just mean biggots.
^For once, we agree. Today really is a truly great day.
I am patiently waiting for the PC pendulum to swing back to 'normal.' Hopefully it won't be too long a wait and we won't be slaughtered in our own countries for being too nice.
Quote from: Gusington on May 12, 2015, 08:23:24 PM
^For once, we agree. Today really is a truly great day.
I am patiently waiting for the PC pendulum to swing back to 'normal.' Hopefully it won't be too long a wait and we won't be slaughtered in our own countries for being too nice.
hey its still early in the month, we can have many disagreements yet O0
Anyways my first experience with these types of PC was way back in the 90' when I bitched about how you could get refugee status while still being able to go to vacation in your home country. And how on earth you could get a Danish citizenship without being able to speak Danish, know our history or our culture. Apparently that made me a rascist in their eyes.
Day 2 of me agreeing with jejo. I feel different.
Soon you'll be one of us
..
muhahaha
Quote from: jejo68 on May 13, 2015, 01:14:08 AM
Anyways my first experience with these types of PC was way back in the 90' when I bitched about how you could get refugee status while still being able to go to vacation in your home country. And how on earth you could get a Danish citizenship without being able to speak Danish, know our history or our culture. Apparently that made me a rascist in their eyes.
In the US you would be called a member of the TEA Party and labeled a racist.
Quote
Anyways my first experience with these types of PC was way back in the 90' when I bitched about how you could get refugee status while still being able to go to vacation in your home country. And how on earth you could get a Danish citizenship without being able to speak Danish, know our history or our culture.
Same thing happens here in Canada. It blows my mind.
The pendulum has to swing the other way at some point. Hell I would settle for 'normal' now.
after all these years of pimping you, Mirth and I have no idea what your normal is.
in some markets its amazing what $20 will get you.
20.00? Nary a handshake.
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on May 15, 2015, 12:19:29 AM
after all these years of pimping you, Mirth and I have no idea what your normal is.
in some markets its amazing what $20 will get you.
LOL! Star is livin' large again! ;D
We interrupt this shenanigans to bring you a news update.
QuoteNadir Soofi, one of two Muslim terrorist killed attempting to slaughter attendees of a "Draw Mohammad" cartoon contest in Garland, Texas, in May, had previously legally purchased a handgun from a gun shop that he should not have been able to buy.
Soofi, with a record of drug and assault charges, was originally flagged when he applied to purchase the gun, but was quickly allowed to buy the weapon in February of 2010. He purchased the 9-millimeter from Lone Wolf Trading Co., a central participant in President Barack Obama and then-Attorney General Eric Holder's "Fast and Furious" program.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/08/02/garland-terrorist-bought-gun-under-obamas-fast-and-furious-program/
Holder should have been brought up on charges.
I doubt the statute of limitations will have run out.
Quote from: Bison on August 02, 2015, 04:21:35 PM
Holder should have been brought up on charges.
His cover-up, with the ridiculous amount of blacked-out "evidence" actually turned over to the congressional hearing, was criminal all by itself.
And the gun running wasn't his office's only transgression, either.
Don't get me started on Maobama's ironically named "Justice" appointee and their lackeys.