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Digital Gaming => Ally/Opponent Finder => Topic started by: KyzBP on May 09, 2015, 11:34:54 AM

Title: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: KyzBP on May 09, 2015, 11:34:54 AM
Are there any relaxed, slightly judgmental Japanese players looking for a almost beginner level Allied opponent?  I just recently brushed the dust off of this and would like to play against a human (sub or semi ok).  I can average about a turn a day, more on the weekend.  I am currently using the vanilla version but would be willing to mod. I've previously played exactly ONE PBEM game using WiTP so I have a tiny bit of experience with PBEMs .  If you're interested post here or PM me if you don't want you're friends to know you're a WiTP:AE beginner.

Thanks,
Erick
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: jomni on May 21, 2015, 06:22:39 PM
Full campaign?
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: Staggerwing on May 21, 2015, 08:57:00 PM
Quote from: jomni on May 21, 2015, 06:22:39 PM
Full campaign?

So you guys should be finishing up turn 6 right about the time the rest of us are watching the sat-link to the first wave of settlers making orbit around Mars and preparing for planetfall, no?  :P
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: KyzBP on May 22, 2015, 11:42:02 AM
Quote from: jomni on May 21, 2015, 06:22:39 PM
Full campaign?

Jomni

I had pretty much given up hope of find a Grog to play.  I'd like to do the full campaign but I may be convinced to do something else.  I'm pretty open to whatever house rules you see fit.  So if you're up to it let me know.  :)
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: KyzBP on May 22, 2015, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on May 21, 2015, 08:57:00 PM
Quote from: jomni on May 21, 2015, 06:22:39 PM
Full campaign?

So you guys should be finishing up turn 6 right about the time the rest of us are watching the sat-link to the first wave of settlers making orbit around Mars and preparing for planetfall, no?  :P

I'd say that pretty much sums it up.
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: jomni on June 06, 2015, 01:35:40 AM
Quote from: KyzBP on May 22, 2015, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on May 21, 2015, 08:57:00 PM
Quote from: jomni on May 21, 2015, 06:22:39 PM
Full campaign?

So you guys should be finishing up turn 6 right about the time the rest of us are watching the sat-link to the first wave of settlers making orbit around Mars and preparing for planetfall, no?  :P

I'd say that pretty much sums it up.

I don't know.  I'm just scared to jump in.
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: KyzBP on June 06, 2015, 07:00:24 AM
Quote from: jomni on June 06, 2015, 01:35:40 AM
Quote from: KyzBP on May 22, 2015, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on May 21, 2015, 08:57:00 PM
Quote from: jomni on May 21, 2015, 06:22:39 PM
Full campaign?

So you guys should be finishing up turn 6 right about the time the rest of us are watching the sat-link to the first wave of settlers making orbit around Mars and preparing for planetfall, no?  :P

I'd say that pretty much sums it up.

I don't know.  I'm just scared to jump in.

It could lead to a fun AAR of how not to play this game...from both sides. ;)
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: undercovergeek on June 06, 2015, 08:11:36 AM
I'm severely tempted - if need to see if I can find my old download links from matrix
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: KyzBP on June 06, 2015, 08:44:58 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on June 06, 2015, 08:11:36 AM
I'm severely tempted - if need to see if I can find my old download links from matrix

Give in to temptation.  It's the foundation for all good decisions. ;)
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: undercovergeek on June 06, 2015, 09:42:05 AM
Give me a day to check I can get to the download page - if the links are still there you're on, grand campaign it is
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: KyzBP on June 06, 2015, 09:51:43 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on June 06, 2015, 09:42:05 AM
Give me a day to check I can get to the download page - if the links are still there you're on, grand campaign it is

O0

If you do find it, do you have a side preference?
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: undercovergeek on June 06, 2015, 10:16:30 AM
I'm easy - were you not looking for a Japanese opponent? I'm happy either way
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: KyzBP on June 06, 2015, 11:17:43 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on June 06, 2015, 10:16:30 AM
I'm easy - were you not looking for a Japanese opponent? I'm happy either way

I was/am but they seem harder to find.  I'd prefer to be the Allies but would be willing to give the Japs a go.  I'll let you pick, I'll be terrible either way.
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: undercovergeek on June 06, 2015, 11:37:27 AM
Lol I'll be the japanese then
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: KyzBP on June 06, 2015, 11:54:18 AM
Sounds good!  I have no idea about house rules other than the Allied player can't mess with CAP levels on the first turn.  If you know of some let me know.
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: undercovergeek on June 06, 2015, 02:01:58 PM
I'll see if I can find a set on matrix - I can't remember if the U.S. Even gets to move on turn 1
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: KyzBP on June 06, 2015, 04:34:07 PM
I found this in an AAR over at Matrix:

HOUSERULES AND GAME SETTINGS
REALISM OPTIONS
FOW ON
Advanced weather ON
Allied damage control ON
PDU ON
Historical first turn OFF
Dec 7 surprise ON
Reliable USN torps OFF
Realistic R&D ON
No unit withdrawals OFF
Reinforcements +/- 15

GAME OPTIONS
Combat reports ON
Auto sub ops OFF
TF move radius ON
Plane move radius ON
Facilities expand OFF
Auto upgrade ships and airgroups OFF
Air and ground replacements OFF
Turn cycle 1 TURN

1st turn rules:
Allied player only able to command TF already at sea
No transferring or loading of squadrons
Max 30% cap set per squadron
No Japanese invasion TF will finish the turn more than 15 hexes from a starting Japanese base DBB:C / DaIronBabes + no Mersing Gambit on turn 1 (turn 2 is fair)

Game rules:
No 4e naval bombing below 10k
Sensible use of paratroopers
Pay full PP for units to cross national borders
No strategic bombing from or into China
Picket ships allowed if of the military type


It may be a good starting point.  I'll keep looking to see if there's anything better.
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: undercovergeek on June 07, 2015, 06:28:14 AM
Those all seem to ring a bell and seem fair enough - the hex limit on the tfs seems rough especially as there are tfs granted a special double move on turn 1 for the Japanese
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: KyzBP on June 07, 2015, 06:46:12 AM
We can scratch the hex limit.  I also wouldn't mind changing the Reinforcments to +\- 60.  Not a big deal.  I just like the extra randomness.
I'm also not sure about this: Pay full PP for units to cross national borders
I'm sure it applies to the Allies but never knew you had to pay PPs to cross borders.  Then again I've only just started playing this.

Were you able to get your copy going?
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: undercovergeek on June 07, 2015, 01:26:43 PM
Home in an hour - but looks ok
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: undercovergeek on June 07, 2015, 02:40:54 PM
whats your version?

ive got the download link but some serious patching is required
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: KyzBP on June 07, 2015, 03:38:33 PM
Quote from: undercovergeek on June 07, 2015, 02:40:54 PM
whats your version?

ive got the download link but some serious patching is required

I'm patched all the way up.  The only thing I've added is the Iron Mod but I think that's just a scenario.

Take your time.  I know the Japanese setup takes some time so feel free to take as much as you need.  I'm playing the Iron Mod right now to give myself an idea of how the game plays compared to the original WiTP.  I'm still in Dec. of 41 so I have plenty to do until you're ready.

Thanks again for accepting!
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: undercovergeek on June 07, 2015, 03:45:34 PM
there is a link on the matrix page saying WitP AE received a massive update in March 15 - is that the one you used - if were not compatible were doomed!!!

Day off tomorrow, give me a day or 2 to get the first order done, i remember it been like science
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: KyzBP on June 07, 2015, 04:45:01 PM
The last time I updated was the March 15th update so we should be good.

I've been reading AARs for ideas and noticed there are a lot of different starts for the Japanese, which, of course, makes my life harder.

Take your time.
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: undercovergeek on June 09, 2015, 09:04:26 AM
Well, thats the airframe production and economy done!!  :o

now the actual moving and killing and stuff!!
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: KyzBP on June 09, 2015, 03:54:31 PM
I don't envy the Japanese player during the first parts of the game.  Again, take your time, no rush.  And thanks again for taking me up on this.
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: undercovergeek on June 09, 2015, 05:17:33 PM
Quote from: KyzBP on June 09, 2015, 03:54:31 PM
I don't envy the Japanese player during the first parts of the game.  Again, take your time, no rush.  And thanks again for taking me up on this.

no worries, id forgotten how much i liked this game
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: undercovergeek on June 10, 2015, 05:08:57 PM
oops forgot port/airfield expansion, ship conversion, engines and repair yards -  :smitten:

i promise actual movement is next KyzBP
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: KyzBP on June 10, 2015, 06:33:11 PM
Take your time.  Make sure you have everything the way you want it.  You only get one shot at your first turn.

Do want to use email or Dropbox?  I have no preference.  I'm also thinking of doing an AAR.  I'm sure the peanut gallery will berate me over my tactics (or lack there of) but it could be fun none the less.
Title: Re: WiTP:AE Beginner's Game
Post by: undercovergeek on June 13, 2015, 11:32:54 AM
Ok, almost done - light at the end of the tunnel

PM your email and ill send a drop box share

Ill AAR from my end too