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Title: Starship Troopers discovered again
Post by: besilarius on May 10, 2015, 05:12:11 PM
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a13103/starship-troopers-is-the-new-the-art-of-war/

Every ten or twelve years, someone sees how good Heinlein was.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers discovered again
Post by: Steelgrave on May 10, 2015, 07:00:18 PM
Quote from: besilarius on May 10, 2015, 05:12:11 PM
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a13103/starship-troopers-is-the-new-the-art-of-war/

Every ten or twelve years, someone sees how good Heinlein was.

I grew up reading Heinlein, Asimov, Clarke, Bradbury, Pournelle and Niven. All were giants and visionaries.  As an appreciative fan and gamer, when playing sci-fi games I always give them their due by naming ships after them   O0 
Title: Re: Starship Troopers discovered again
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 10, 2015, 07:09:42 PM
Heinlein's been my email / forum sig for 20+ years.  Still relevant today
Title: Re: Starship Troopers discovered again
Post by: Steelgrave on May 10, 2015, 08:10:19 PM
^And mine, as you likely noticed. I've quoted that particular Heinlein line forever.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers discovered again
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 10, 2015, 08:20:53 PM
Quote from: Steelgrave on May 10, 2015, 08:10:19 PM
^And mine, as you likely noticed. I've quoted that particular Heinlein line forever.

yes, but your pre-supposes that one wears pants.  Star, for instance, would likely not find much in your advice ;)
Title: Re: Starship Troopers discovered again
Post by: GDS_Starfury on May 10, 2015, 08:25:30 PM
I only have to find one of those things in the dark.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers discovered again
Post by: Cyrano on May 10, 2015, 10:05:46 PM
Heinlein was right for many reasons, not the least of which was his belief there is such a thing as human nature and it wouldn't change overmuch, technology notwithstanding.  As Zappa taught us, "you are what you is."  This is why the utopianism of "Star Trek" reads as false if you scratch too much of the surface.

It bears remembering that "utopia", at its root, means "nowhere".

Best,

Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)
Title: Re: Starship Troopers discovered again
Post by: LongBlade on May 10, 2015, 10:14:17 PM
Quote from: Cyrano on May 10, 2015, 10:05:46 PM
It bears remembering that "utopia", at its root, means "nowhere".

Best,

Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)

I did not know that. Thanks!
Title: Re: Starship Troopers discovered again
Post by: LongBlade on May 10, 2015, 10:15:12 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on May 10, 2015, 08:25:30 PM
I only have to find one of those things in the dark.

Yes, but in Steelie's quote "gun" is not a euphemism.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers discovered again
Post by: Steelgrave on May 11, 2015, 03:41:05 AM
I actually do keep my guns and my pants where I can find them in the dark. Perhaps the wrong sci-fi writer created a religon. Perhaps we should be practicing Heinleinism as we quote the master.

We would need to do better than Tom Cruise and John Travolta as spokesmen though.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers discovered again
Post by: besilarius on May 11, 2015, 06:19:03 AM
Well, look around you.  Between Bawb's Stache, Mirth's channeling of Bill Murray, and Star's pants, the future is Groggy.
Title: Re: Starship Troopers discovered again
Post by: airboy on May 12, 2015, 01:24:58 PM
Quote from: Steelgrave on May 10, 2015, 07:00:18 PM
Quote from: besilarius on May 10, 2015, 05:12:11 PM
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a13103/starship-troopers-is-the-new-the-art-of-war/

Every ten or twelve years, someone sees how good Heinlein was.

I grew up reading Heinlein, Asimov, Clarke, Bradbury, Pournelle and Niven. All were giants and visionaries.  As an appreciative fan and gamer, when playing sci-fi games I always give them their due by naming ships after them   O0

And this is why I spent $40 to be a Hugo Awards voter this year.  In the last 2 decades the winners have mostly been crap.