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Title: Irish Need Not Apply
Post by: besilarius on July 29, 2015, 05:52:14 PM
http://www.longislandwins.com/columns/detail/high_school_student_proves_professor_wrong_when_he_denied_no_irish_need_app

My grandad's father saw these signs in windows in Boston and nearly got back on the boat.
Title: Re: Irish Need Not Apply
Post by: LongBlade on July 29, 2015, 06:32:06 PM
I'm part Irish and I demand reparations!
Title: Re: Irish Need Not Apply
Post by: besilarius on July 29, 2015, 06:56:25 PM
Well, if your ancestors worked on the Erie Canal, you'd be out of luck.
The navvies were almost entirely Irish and were paid ten cents a day and two bottles of rye whiskey.
This worked out very well for the govenor of New York, Dewitt Clinton.  By the time the Canal was finished, most of the diggers were addicted to the whiskey and had liver problems.  Luckily, there were more micks coming over all the time.
Title: Re: Irish Need Not Apply
Post by: Centurion40 on July 30, 2015, 07:01:55 AM
I noticed that some of the ads specified "Protestants", German or "coloured".  Perhaps this isn't so much a case of racial bigotry as it is a case of Papist bigotry.
Title: Re: Irish Need Not Apply
Post by: Staggerwing on July 30, 2015, 07:04:13 AM
That's probably right as there was a strong belief by many WASPs that the wave of immigrants was an attempt by the Pope to take over America.
Title: Re: Irish Need Not Apply
Post by: LongBlade on July 30, 2015, 08:40:52 PM
Quote from: Centurion40 on July 30, 2015, 07:01:55 AM
I noticed that some of the ads specified "Protestants", German or "coloured".  Perhaps this isn't so much a case of racial bigotry as it is a case of Papist bigotry.

My dad grew up in an ethnically segregated neighborhood. He is quite clear about the times: everyone hated everyone. There was an ethnic hierarchy, but at the end of the day prejudice was everywhere. Heck, I was ostracized by some kids in school because of my last name. That disappeared by high school, but I'm here to say it existed 40 years ago. Improvise, adapt, and overcome. Life isn't fair. Quit whining. Deal with it.

As the guys at RU put it so eloquently:

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Title: Re: Irish Need Not Apply
Post by: airboy on August 01, 2015, 07:45:05 AM
There is a website devoted to retractions at journals:
http://retractionwatch.com/

I just got a paper accepted about the willingness of authors to supply material needed to replicate their research.  Due to space constraints, you can seldom include all of the study details needed to replicate a paper in the article itself.  Without replication, it is difficult to have confidence that the findings are valid - especially when you are dealing with human behavior in complex situations (think business & commerce for me).  One guy had to retract several papers in my field when it was discovered he made up his data.

But scientists make mistakes that are unintentional - just like everyone else.  I've caught them as a reviewer on editorial boards.  I've had errors caught by others at presentations or during journal reviews.  Fortunately, over my 30 year publication career I've never had an error discovered in my published work.  But we all make unintentional mistakes.

The situation you reference seems like someone who is sloppy and has an axe to grind.