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Title: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: Gusington on September 27, 2015, 09:52:43 AM
Either NASA found a new red rock or a Chtulu-like harbinger of civilization's end:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/26/us/mars-discovery-nasa-irpt/index.html

Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: bbmike on September 27, 2015, 10:26:34 AM
...or a little wormy looking thing that is a fossil...
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: Bison on September 27, 2015, 10:26:50 AM
I'm going with NASA finding a rock or the possibility that standing bodies of water may exist(ed) on Mars. 
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: Steelgrave on September 27, 2015, 10:44:36 AM
These......

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Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: Nefaro on September 27, 2015, 10:48:04 AM
Quote from: Bison on September 27, 2015, 10:26:50 AM
I'm going with NASA finding a rock or the possibility that standing bodies of water may exist(ed) on Mars.

Probably the latter, discovered via the prior.
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: bbmike on September 27, 2015, 01:11:13 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on September 27, 2015, 10:48:04 AM
Quote from: Bison on September 27, 2015, 10:26:50 AM
I'm going with NASA finding a rock or the possibility that standing bodies of water may exist(ed) on Mars.

Probably the latter, discovered via the prior.

Yeah, that wouldn't be very exciting since we all know it did anyway.
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: Gusington on September 27, 2015, 01:15:25 PM
An existing standing body of water would be pretty big, no? Until something comes out of it and eats the NASA rover. Then it would be really big.
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: bbmike on September 27, 2015, 01:17:20 PM
Yes, if they find an existing body of water that would be huge.
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: Gusington on September 27, 2015, 03:06:48 PM
They can name it Oceanus Cthulu.
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: OJsDad on September 27, 2015, 03:17:12 PM
I'm betting on our alien overlords finally revealing themselves.

Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: Staggerwing on September 27, 2015, 03:25:54 PM
Quote from: OJsDad on September 27, 2015, 03:17:12 PM
I'm betting on our alien overlords finally revealing themselves.

Finally! I've been vrilling to the Overmind for years now that the time is right.


Oh wait... umm, I mean...
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: Airborne Rifles on September 27, 2015, 03:45:31 PM
Quote from: OJsDad on September 27, 2015, 03:17:12 PM
I'm betting on our alien overlords finally revealing themselves.

My guess as well, or that the arachnids have established a forward staging base and we need to prepare to repel an invasion.
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: OJsDad on September 27, 2015, 06:49:17 PM
Quote from: Airborne Rifles on September 27, 2015, 03:45:31 PM
Quote from: OJsDad on September 27, 2015, 03:17:12 PM
I'm betting on our alien overlords finally revealing themselves.

My guess as well, or that the arachnids have established a forward staging base and we need to prepare to repel an invasion.

I'm getting too old for that crap. 
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: Gusington on September 27, 2015, 08:06:09 PM
^I better get my helmet on and get some more firearms training. Paging Airborne Rifles!!
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: JasonPratt on September 28, 2015, 01:40:53 PM
Turns out the news is that they have found no evidence so far of non-frozen water ever existing on Mars.

One subtle reason this counts as big news, is that it connects to theories about what dug those huge canyons. Apparently not liquid water. Maybe arc electricity? (That's my current favorite theoOMG THAT'S A PUN!  :D )
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: Pete Dero on September 28, 2015, 02:01:21 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on September 28, 2015, 01:40:53 PM
Turns out the news is that they have found no evidence so far of non-frozen water ever existing on Mars.

Not true : New findings from NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO) provide the strongest evidence yet that liquid water flows intermittently on present-day Mars

http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-confirms-evidence-that-liquid-water-flows-on-today-s-mars
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: endfire79 on September 28, 2015, 03:26:51 PM
This old diddy from The Chappelle Show always comes to mind:

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Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: JasonPratt on September 28, 2015, 04:34:07 PM
Yeah, I totally read that Facebook article alert wrong.  :-[  :-[ :-[ :-[ One hundred percent my fault.

Oh well. Liquid water on Mars maybe, woo! :D

That would be pretty important for trying to set up a colony there (since there's no feasible way possible to send someone there and back like to the Moon). Frozen water can be melted of course, but that takes energy.

(On the other hand, it's a huge question as to what would take more of an energy budget, thawing ice or tapping and preparing subsurface streams.)
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: Bison on September 28, 2015, 04:48:10 PM
So basically as expected NASA's big news was something that they'd previously called attention too as possible big news.  Mars may or may not have liquid water that may or may not actually exist on the surface and may or may not be a possible source to sustain life...possibly.  /sigh/  NASA is nothing if non-committal.
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: bbmike on September 28, 2015, 05:36:06 PM
Or maybe Jason doesn't want us to know about that base on Mars...  ^-^
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: Staggerwing on September 28, 2015, 05:39:24 PM
I got the impression from news reports that confirming the presence of liquid water (as in moist sandy deposits) was the big reveal. Granted I have not had a chance to read the actual NASA release.
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: Sir Slash on September 28, 2015, 06:35:40 PM
I'm glad I didn't bet on it being Jimmy Hoffa.
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: bbmike on September 28, 2015, 06:47:52 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on September 28, 2015, 06:35:40 PM
I'm glad I didn't bet on it being Jimmy Hoffa.

He's still waiting in that Nazi gold train.
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: LongBlade on September 28, 2015, 10:43:57 PM
Quote from: bbmike on September 28, 2015, 06:47:52 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on September 28, 2015, 06:35:40 PM
I'm glad I didn't bet on it being Jimmy Hoffa.

He's still waiting in that Nazi gold train.

You guys are awesome :)
Title: Re: Big Mars Announcement - September 28
Post by: MikeGER on September 29, 2015, 02:05:35 AM
I followed the press conference live on Nasa TV  8)

It is really good news, the brine solution of this perchlorate can be processed into pure water and into the solid chemicals.
what to do with water is self-explanatory  (oxygen, rocketfuel, live support, you name it....)
The chemicals can be used for solid boosters (with organic material containing carbon for example remains from food-plants grown in Mars green houses), and for blasting purposes on the surface

Mars exploration will become much more cheaper.
First step would be a robot, who generate the fuel on Mars to send home probe samples with 'tiny'-rockets (reentry vehicles) fueled up and then launched back to Earth.

and now it make sense to setup dust saturated with different perchlorate brine-solutions in the bio-lab and test all kind of bacteria samples from halfway similar harsh places on earth (like dried-up saline sees around the globe at high altitude and cold climate zone) to find a stem that is able to survive.
Then we know better what to look for in this dark streaks  ...and hopefully evidence of 'similar' bacteria can be even discovered with remote sense-methods looking for trace gases emitted in that spots or general spectroscopy focused  on a small spot