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Title: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: LongBlade on October 16, 2015, 04:28:09 PM
QuoteAmid fears of an atomic arms race in the Middle East, a senior United Arab Emirates official has told a top U.S. lawmaker that it too might seek the right to enrich uranium that Iran has asserted under the recently signed nuclear deal.

The landmark Iran accord to curb its nuclear weapons in exchange for economic sanctions relief allows Tehran to enrich uranium. In barely noticed testimony last month, Rep. Ed Royce, R-Calif., chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said the UAE's ambassador in Washington, Yousef al-Otaiba, had informed him in a telephone call that the country no longer felt bound by its previous nuclear agreement with the United States.

"He told me, `Your worst enemy has achieved this right to enrich. It's a right to enrich now that your friends are going to want, too, and we won't be the only country,' " Royce said in a phone interview with The Associated Press, elaborating on his testimony.

source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/16/gop-lawmaker-says-uae-claims-right-to-enrich-uranium-after-iran-deal/
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 16, 2015, 05:27:59 PM
what could possibly go wrong?   ::)
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Bison on October 16, 2015, 05:28:38 PM
I'm shocked.  SHOCKED, I say.  This was just so unexpected. 
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: panzerde on October 16, 2015, 05:47:33 PM
They don't need to enrich. We have plenty of already enriched uranium that we could share with everyone in the Middle East. We'll even deliver it with cool rockets.

Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: LongBlade on October 16, 2015, 05:49:10 PM
Quote from: panzerde on October 16, 2015, 05:47:33 PM
They don't need to enrich. We have plenty of already enriched uranium that we could share with everyone in the Middle East. We'll even deliver it with cool rockets.

Laugh

Out

Loud

Built by CaptDarwin, no doubt.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Swatter on October 16, 2015, 06:25:39 PM
Quote from: panzerde on October 16, 2015, 05:47:33 PM
They don't need to enrich. We have plenty of already enriched uranium that we could share with everyone in the Middle East. We'll even deliver it with cool rockets.

;D

Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Bison on October 16, 2015, 08:06:57 PM
The United States has confirmed that Iran tested a medium-range missile capable of delivering a nuclear weapon, in "clear violation" of a United Nations Security Council ban on ballistic missile tests, a senior U.S. official said on Friday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/16/us-iran-missiles-usa-idUSKCN0SA20Z20151016?feedType=RSS&feedName=Iran&virtualBrandChannel=10209&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=59365

More joys of having an emboldened Iran.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Gusington on October 16, 2015, 08:08:24 PM
So much for international order. It was overrated anyway.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: MetalDog on October 16, 2015, 08:19:05 PM
Let's pretend for a minute that our elected officials aren't idiots.  Let's also pretend that they knew EXACTLY what they were doing when they made the deal with Iran.  My question is, why?  Why make that deal?  What is to be gained by letting Iran off of double secret probation?  What do they have, or have promised us, that we would POSSIBLY be ok with letting them enrich uranium?  It can't be oil, we've got gobs of that.  It can't be help with Daesh, Russia is taking care of that.  Maybe it's help with the Taliban?  Maybe they said they'd be our friends and take our side against China/Russia/some unknown super villain?  I don't know, but, it sure seems like if some dumbass from the backwoods of the South can figure out it's a bad idea, that the people who are more closely involved would figure out it's a bad idea and not do it.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: LongBlade on October 16, 2015, 08:28:20 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on October 16, 2015, 08:19:05 PM
Let's pretend for a minute that our elected officials aren't idiots.  Let's also pretend that they knew EXACTLY what they were doing when they made the deal with Iran.  My question is, why?  Why make that deal?  What is to be gained by letting Iran off of double secret probation? 

The alternative was going to be an inevitable military strike. Most likely by the Israelis, but likely aided and abetted by us - assuming we weren't in the lead.

There is a remote hope that the Iranians won't do anything crazy with a nuke, and Obama, I'm sure, wanted to give that sliver of hope some life.

I listened to an interview with former Secretary Gates. He made it clear that Obama was highly skeptical that the military was giving him the best advice. Gates also indicated that Biden was behind that paranoia (if that's the right word) and that there were others, though he wouldn't name names.

Given that kind of pretzel logic it's a wonder the world isn't in bigger flames.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Bison on October 16, 2015, 08:35:24 PM
This is the reality of the state of American reporting and they very much did the same with the Iran deal.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/10/16/cnn-stealth-edits-story-jewish-holy-site-attacked-palestinians-catching-fire/

Depressing really that facts cannot be facts any longer.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: LongBlade on October 16, 2015, 09:44:40 PM
Kissenger's path out of the mid east crisis.

Well worth the time to read - especially the pics of nekkid chix at the end.

QuoteThe prevailing U.S. policy toward Iran is often compared by its advocates to the Nixon administration's opening to China, which contributed, despite some domestic opposition, to the ultimate transformation of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War. The comparison is not apt. The opening to China in 1971 was based on the mutual recognition by both parties that the prevention of Russian hegemony in Eurasia was in their common interest. And 42 Soviet divisions lining the Sino-Soviet border reinforced that conviction. No comparable strategic agreement exists between Washington and Tehran. On the contrary, in the immediate aftermath of the nuclear accord, Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei described the U.S. as the "Great Satan" and rejected negotiations with America about nonnuclear matters. Completing his geopolitical diagnosis, Mr. Khamenei also predicted that Israel would no longer exist in 25 years.

source: http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-path-out-of-the-middle-east-collapse-1445037513
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: MetalDog on October 16, 2015, 10:22:34 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on October 16, 2015, 08:28:20 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on October 16, 2015, 08:19:05 PM
Let's pretend for a minute that our elected officials aren't idiots.  Let's also pretend that they knew EXACTLY what they were doing when they made the deal with Iran.  My question is, why?  Why make that deal?  What is to be gained by letting Iran off of double secret probation? 

The alternative was going to be an inevitable military strike. Most likely by the Israelis, but likely aided and abetted by us - assuming we weren't in the lead.

There is a remote hope that the Iranians won't do anything crazy with a nuke, and Obama, I'm sure, wanted to give that sliver of hope some life.

I listened to an interview with former Secretary Gates. He made it clear that Obama was highly skeptical that the military was giving him the best advice. Gates also indicated that Biden was behind that paranoia (if that's the right word) and that there were others, though he wouldn't name names.

Given that kind of pretzel logic it's a wonder the world isn't in bigger flames.

So Iran is a counterweight?  Against who?  Russia?  China?  India?  One of the 'Stans?
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: LongBlade on October 16, 2015, 11:59:41 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on October 16, 2015, 10:22:34 PM
So Iran is a counterweight?  Against who?  Russia?  China?  India?  One of the 'Stans?

Take your pick. Don't forget us.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Bison on October 17, 2015, 12:25:24 AM
I thought Malta was the key to world power and needed balancing?
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Staggerwing on October 17, 2015, 06:26:05 AM
Quote from: Bison on October 17, 2015, 12:25:24 AM
I thought Malta was the key to world power and needed balancing?

Sounds like a job for Burkina Faso. They won't let those power-mad Maltese get away with anything.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Nefaro on October 17, 2015, 01:10:47 PM
Quote from: Bison on October 16, 2015, 05:28:38 PM
I'm shocked.  SHOCKED, I say.  This was just so unexpected.


LOL.  Yeah.

Who could've seen this proliferation coming as a result?   ::)
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Gusington on October 17, 2015, 09:00:13 PM
The Fourth World War will be fought with sticks and rocks between Malta and Burkina Faso.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Staggerwing on October 17, 2015, 09:04:43 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 17, 2015, 09:00:13 PM
The Fourth World War will be fought with sticks and rocks between Malta and Burkina Faso.

Someone has been reading his Einstein.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Gusington on October 17, 2015, 09:17:24 PM
Yes - but I gave you the main combatants too. Full service.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: LongBlade on October 17, 2015, 09:20:31 PM
Good. It leaves us out of it.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Bison on October 17, 2015, 09:35:01 PM
Well it'd be hard to get our dugout canoe navy to transport our stick and stone equipped marines to Malta or the Horn of Africa.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Mr. Bigglesworth on October 18, 2015, 12:13:15 AM
The cunning plan, is to let the crazy middle east be the counterbalance to global warming.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Airborne Rifles on October 18, 2015, 05:55:29 AM
You're right! And as a bonus, in the event of a nuclear war in the Middle Wast the global wind patterns will carry the fallout to...China!

Burkina Faso and Malta will be effected not at all.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Gusington on October 18, 2015, 03:14:29 PM
The key will be to survive WWIII, which will wipe out 4/5 of humanity before WWIV starts.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Steelgrave on October 18, 2015, 03:23:35 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on October 16, 2015, 08:19:05 PM
Let's pretend for a minute that our elected officials aren't idiots.  Let's also pretend that they knew EXACTLY what they were doing when they made the deal with Iran.  My question is, why?  Why make that deal?  What is to be gained by letting Iran off of double secret probation?  What do they have, or have promised us, that we would POSSIBLY be ok with letting them enrich uranium?  It can't be oil, we've got gobs of that.  It can't be help with Daesh, Russia is taking care of that.  Maybe it's help with the Taliban?  Maybe they said they'd be our friends and take our side against China/Russia/some unknown super villain?  I don't know, but, it sure seems like if some dumbass from the backwoods of the South can figure out it's a bad idea, that the people who are more closely involved would figure out it's a bad idea and not do it.

I'd vote for you over most of those clowns any day, Dawg. But asking me to pretend our elected officials aren't idiots....too much of a stretch, brother.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: MetalDog on October 18, 2015, 04:41:28 PM
Thanks, Steelie.  Not sure I'd want the job, but, I'd make it an Executive Order to Shanghai each of you into Cabinet positions ;)
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Steelgrave on October 18, 2015, 05:00:36 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on October 18, 2015, 04:41:28 PM
Thanks, Steelie.  Not sure I'd want the job, but, I'd make it an Executive Order to Shanghai each of you into Cabinet positions ;)

Can we run our own email servers through our home? I have Yahoo, bro!
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: LongBlade on October 18, 2015, 05:08:39 PM
Quote from: Steelgrave on October 18, 2015, 05:00:36 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on October 18, 2015, 04:41:28 PM
Thanks, Steelie.  Not sure I'd want the job, but, I'd make it an Executive Order to Shanghai each of you into Cabinet positions ;)

Can we run our own email servers through our home? I have Yahoo, bro!

Yahoo is *way* more secure than what they were running.

Her admin left ports openly exposed to the outside. In today's world that should be criminal negligence.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Bison on October 18, 2015, 05:36:59 PM
In a rational world she'd be spending her night fearing federal prison and not deciding which fake accent to use and what race baiting statements to make at her next campaign stop.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Steelgrave on October 18, 2015, 08:01:30 PM
Quote from: Bison on October 18, 2015, 05:36:59 PM
In a rational world she'd be spending her night fearing federal prison and not deciding which fake accent to use and what race baiting statements to make at her next campaign stop.

But then, she wouldn't be Hillary, would she? Well, whoever the hell Hillary actually is anyway.
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: Nefaro on October 19, 2015, 01:06:23 AM
Quote from: Steelgrave on October 18, 2015, 08:01:30 PM
Quote from: Bison on October 18, 2015, 05:36:59 PM
In a rational world she'd be spending her night fearing federal prison and not deciding which fake accent to use and what race baiting statements to make at her next campaign stop.

But then, she wouldn't be Hillary, would she? Well, whoever the hell Hillary actually is anyway.


(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftheblacksphere-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F04%2FHillary-poor-black-first-lady-500x260.jpg&hash=089b0296cd2ae5ec7c8d1fdd611374d99136a380)


LOL.  Found that randomly, but there is a funny bonus from that page:


Things I Trust More than Hillary Clinton
by Kevin Jackson | Apr 19, 2015
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Drinking Mexican tap water
A rattlesnake with a pet me sign
Bill Clinton
OJ Simpson showing me his knife collection
An elevator ride with Ray Rice
A drink offered by Bill Cosby
Michael Jackson's doctor
An Obama nuclear deal with Iran
A Palestinian with a backpack on a motorcycle
Gas station sushi
Jimmy Carter's economic plan
Brian Williams' news reports
Loch Ness monster sightings
Prayers for peace from Al Sharpton
An Obama endorsement
Rosie O showing restraint at an all-you-can-eat buffet
German co-pilots
Nigerian lottos wins
The $35,000,000 arab shiek who keeps sending me emails
Mexican building codes
Duke strippers
Chicago governors

http://theblacksphere.net/2015/04/things-i-trust-more-than-hillary-clinton/


:2funny:
Title: Re: Nuke Arms Race Begins
Post by: JasonPratt on October 28, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
Quote from: Bison on October 17, 2015, 09:35:01 PM
Well it'd be hard to get our dugout canoe navy to transport our stick and stone equipped marines to Malta or the Horn of Africa.

Hey, if Paradox Studios says the Aztecs can invade medieval Europe, then I'm sure North American can-do spirit will get that job done!