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Title: Armchair General Forums
Post by: Boggit on December 09, 2015, 09:53:22 PM
I was planning to have a quick lurk over at them, but the page isn't available to me. Is anyone else having trouble accessing their forum pages?
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: MetalDog on December 09, 2015, 10:10:16 PM
Won't load for me, Boggit.  Wonder what's up?
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: Sir Slash on December 09, 2015, 11:01:17 PM
The magazine went under a few months back. Half way through my subscription-- of course. I'm guessing that's why the site's down. Too bad, I really liked the mag and the forum items.
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 09, 2015, 11:15:16 PM
they were folding it into MHQ, I thought

odd that it wouldn't redirect somewhere
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 09, 2015, 11:16:58 PM
found this on Facebook from this morning
https://www.facebook.com/groups/7534074420/permalink/10153810868374421/
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: MIGMaster on December 10, 2015, 08:06:40 AM
hhhmmmm......
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: LongBlade on December 10, 2015, 08:47:17 AM
New management? Someone on the FB page said they had new management. What does that mean?
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: LongBlade on December 10, 2015, 09:02:44 AM
OK, I did some poking around on the web.

The parent company for ACG and other mags used to be Weider History Group. Now it appears to be World History Group. Same initials, but slightly different name. Perusing their About Us and Contact Us pages (http://www.historynet.com/contact-historynet-and-world-history-group) three things pop up. First, the location seems to have moved from when I last visited a few years ago. Building looks entirely different, though I forget the address.

Another thing that pops out is that there is no masthead. I cannot find a single name of an editor or manager for the entire portfolio of magazines.

Last thing that stands out: Armchair General is no longer part of the portfolio. Every other mag that used to be part of Weider is there, just not ACG.

A bit of history: IIRC ACG started on its own. Then Eric Weider had the opportunity to buy the portfolio of flagging history magazines and suddenly MHQ, Vietnam, WWII, American West et al were under Weider History Group. So there is a precedent for selling the portfolio minus ACG. Where that leaves ACG is another question. Right now their servers can't be found - no front page, no forums. Nada. I guess we'll see what that means shortly.
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 10, 2015, 09:07:52 AM
I'm poking around a little


EDIT:
from someone with some inside knowledge
QuoteI don't think they shut it down. I think they just don't know how to fix the server its running on.

2nd EDIT:
confirmed from their datacenter that the server hosting the ACG site is down, but it doesn't seem like anyone there gives a flip
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: Sir Slash on December 10, 2015, 10:10:52 AM
ACG Honored the remainder of my subscription with MHQ mag which was a disappointment but fine but their note to me was the magazine was no more.  :'(
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: LongBlade on December 10, 2015, 10:16:21 AM
Quote from: Sir Slash on December 10, 2015, 10:10:52 AM
ACG Honored the remainder of my subscription with MHQ mag which was a disappointment but fine but their note to me was the magazine was no more.  :'(

I have always liked MHQ. Sad to see ACG go.
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: Steelgrave on December 10, 2015, 10:32:06 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on December 10, 2015, 09:07:52 AM
I'm poking around a little


EDIT:
from someone with some inside knowledge
QuoteI don't think they shut it down. I think they just don't know how to fix the server its running on.

2nd EDIT:
confirmed from their datacenter that the server hosting the ACG site is down, but it doesn't seem like anyone there gives a flip

I wonder if they have a new hire named.....Curtis? That would explain a lot  ::)
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: LongBlade on December 10, 2015, 10:33:28 AM
Brant needs to get on the ACG Facebook page and throw out the Welcome Mat.
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 10, 2015, 10:37:25 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on December 10, 2015, 10:33:28 AM
Brant needs to get on the ACG Facebook page and throw out the Welcome Mat.

uh... you know how to work Facebook, too ::)
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: LongBlade on December 10, 2015, 10:43:11 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on December 10, 2015, 10:37:25 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on December 10, 2015, 10:33:28 AM
Brant needs to get on the ACG Facebook page and throw out the Welcome Mat.

uh... you know how to work Facebook, too ::)

Yes, but I never go there anymore.
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: MetalDog on December 10, 2015, 07:58:11 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on December 10, 2015, 10:10:52 AM
ACG Honored the remainder of my subscription with MHQ mag which was a disappointment but fine but their note to me was the magazine was no more.  :'(

I had subscriptions to ACG and MH mags.  I liked MH much better.  What I REALLY liked was MHQ.  That is, until they started putting them out in soft cover rather than hardcover.  I let my subscription lapse after that.
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: Toonces on December 11, 2015, 07:32:34 AM
I've always preferred the LnL forums to ACG.

:o
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: Greybriar on December 11, 2015, 09:57:35 AM
I haven't been able to log on to the Armchair General Forums (http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/) since the day before yesterday.

Thanks for starting this thread, Boggit. It saved me the trouble of starting one myself.  O0
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: Sir Slash on December 11, 2015, 11:29:32 AM
You're welcome Grey, but Boggit actually posted first. But I'm always happy to help-out a brother Grog.... or take credit for their work. Whatever furthers the Cause.  ::)
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: Greybriar on December 11, 2015, 01:16:59 PM
Oops! I'll edit my post.  :-[
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: Martok on December 12, 2015, 06:54:14 AM
Oh wow.  I hadn't been to ACG in a couple weeks, so very surprised to see this happened.  Wonder if they'll get their server issues fixed, or if they're down for good. 
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 12, 2015, 07:28:27 AM
Quote from: Martok on December 12, 2015, 06:54:14 AMWonder if they'll get their server issues fixed, or if they're down for good. 

kinda depends on who you ask ;)
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: Martok on December 12, 2015, 04:21:24 PM
I figured.  :P 

I wonder if we'll get an influx here at all. 

Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: MetalDog on December 12, 2015, 05:09:00 PM
I doubt it.  Totally different crowd over there.  Of course, if they do, they are certainly welcome.
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: Greybriar on December 15, 2015, 10:47:45 AM
The Armchair General Forums (http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/index.php) are back up.
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 15, 2015, 11:19:07 AM
Wasn't a DDOS - seems to have been internal benign neglect.  It went down by accident, but it seems like the overlords left it off for a few to see if anyone gave a crap.  Turns out they do, so it got turned back on.
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: Boggit on December 15, 2015, 09:33:37 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on December 15, 2015, 11:19:07 AM
Wasn't a DDOS - seems to have been internal benign neglect.  It went down by accident, but it seems like the overlords left it off for a few to see if anyone gave a crap.  Turns out they do, so it got turned back on.
Good. I occasionally lurk there, and have some interesting posts.
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: Boggit on December 15, 2015, 09:35:49 PM
Quote from: Greybriar on December 11, 2015, 09:57:35 AM
I haven't been able to log on to the Armchair General Forums (http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/) since the day before yesterday.

Thanks for starting this thread, Boggit. It saved me the trouble of starting one myself.  O0
No worries Greybriar. I know a few of us spend some time over there, and it seemed a kinda odd situation. I'm glad for the sake of their forum members that they are back up, as they have put a lot into their community too.
Title: Re: Armchair General Forums
Post by: LongBlade on December 15, 2015, 09:40:26 PM
Quote from: Boggit on December 15, 2015, 09:35:49 PM
Quote from: Greybriar on December 11, 2015, 09:57:35 AM
I haven't been able to log on to the Armchair General Forums (http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/) since the day before yesterday.

Thanks for starting this thread, Boggit. It saved me the trouble of starting one myself.  O0
No worries Greybriar. I know a few of us spend some time over there, and it seemed a kinda odd situation. I'm glad for the sake of their forum members that they are back up, as they have put a lot into their community too.

You guys might consider putting up a flare over there.

I can't speak for Grogheads but I don't think anyone here wants to poach readers over there. However, if a more permanent outage of some sort were to occur there, they would be welcome here (and are in any event). There isn't much of a historical section here (yet) but the mods are responsive and would create whatever structure a bunch of new, enthusiastic readers would like to see.