BTW, they nuked the forums - all new setup. The old ones seem to be accessible, but if you had anything over there you wanted, go get it ASAP before it's gone.
Meanwhile, the front page is completely redone, and looks like S&M offloaded it entirely to Pocket Tactics.
I think the past is safely over the horizon from where we are on our own highway at this point.
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I hope this site never changes to that forum style.
what's that worth to you? ^-^
I promise I'll look at the front page if we ever get one! :D
Quote from: bayonetbrant on February 10, 2016, 05:02:44 PM
what's that worth to you? ^-^
Or how much was it worth to Pocket Tactics? :o
I'm happy for the pocket tactics guys. The hobby needs multiple outlets for discussion and promotion. And yes it was time for the old forum to be banished to the nether regions of the interwebs.
They should nuke the old forums entirely. Not wild about the new front end, but the forum layout is better than what they had.
You're a rear end kind of guy anyway.
Quote from: Gusington on February 10, 2016, 06:02:06 PM
You're a rear end kind of guy anyway.
You know it, Mr. Frodo.
Good Lord - it looks like the front page was designed by someone from Fisher-Price on acid!
Quote from: MIGMaster on February 10, 2016, 06:48:01 PM
Good Lord - it looks like the front page was designed by someone from Fisher-Price on an acid!
LMAO!!! Now I have to go look....damn it!!!
What's going to happen to the old forums' resident clown clan?
At the moment there only appear to be a couple of survivors.
My guess is they'll all return - people are creatures of habit.
I thought I had gone to the wrong site first time it came-up. They shouldn't do that to a fellow sober.
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 10, 2016, 07:35:40 PM
I thought I had gone to the wrong site first time it came-up. They shouldn't do that to a fellow sober.
Because...if you were drunk you'd go home with her?
That looks craptastic!
I am sooooo tempted to post this in whatever welcome thread there is over there:
I can't decide whether I like the new look or despise it...I think I despise it.
It's not a great design, but it's better than what they had.
Quote from: mirth on February 10, 2016, 09:42:51 PM
It's not a great design, but it's better than what they had.
And their front page has some decent content. They'd actually make a pretty good merger here.
I miss the Tiger Tank logo.
We had a number of cool logos over the years. The Tiger/Apache were pretty awesome.
Quote from: Steelgrave on February 10, 2016, 06:49:13 PM
Quote from: MIGMaster on February 10, 2016, 06:48:01 PM
Good Lord - it looks like the front page was designed by someone from Fisher-Price on an acid!
LMAO!!! Now I have to go look....damn it!!!
So will I. I haven't felt much inclination to post there for a few years now (well maybe once or twice about a year ago), nor looked at it for a while... I'm sorry that what used to be a good gaming site may have fallen so low. :( I'll check it out now.
If anyone is feeling nostalgic, they've left the old site up for your enjoyment
http://old.wargamer.com/
Quote from: mirth on February 11, 2016, 12:17:30 PM
If anyone is feeling nostalgic, they've left the old site up for your enjoyment
http://old.wargamer.com/
That ain't the old wargamer.
*THIS* is the old wargamer: https://web.archive.org/web/20050829182433/http://www.wargamer.com/
Quote from: LongBlade on February 11, 2016, 12:22:59 PM
Quote from: mirth on February 11, 2016, 12:17:30 PM
If anyone is feeling nostalgic, they've left the old site up for your enjoyment
http://old.wargamer.com/
That ain't the old wargamer.
*THIS* is the old wargamer: https://web.archive.org/web/20050829182433/http://www.wargamer.com/
Heh. I actually remember that.
Quote from: mirth on February 11, 2016, 12:17:30 PM
If anyone is feeling nostalgic, they've left the old site up for your enjoyment
http://old.wargamer.com/
I saw it too and couldn't help feeling that the "new" format is a step backward. To be honest, I quite liked the format of the old wargamer. I'm happy for the "New" Wargamer that Jim Cobb is still with them, as I think he writes excellent reviews. Overall I feel disappointed with them dumping the "old" wargamer forums for the empty 'new' forums and bland (compared to the old wargamer) front page. OK, it's early days to be too judgmental, but my first impressions are "if it ain't broke don't fix it", or if it is broke and you're going to replace it, at least get something better. It seems to me - in car terms - that they've replaced the "Wargamer's" Mitsubishi Shogun with a tiny "New Wargamer's" Smart car :-\.
I can no longer log on to the Wargamer... strange? ???
Quote from: Boggit on February 11, 2016, 01:10:21 PM
I can no longer log on to the Wargamer... strange? ???
It was slow to load but I pulled up the front page in about five seconds.
Quote from: LongBlade on February 11, 2016, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: Boggit on February 11, 2016, 01:10:21 PM
I can no longer log on to the Wargamer... strange? ???
It was slow to load but I pulled up the front page in about five seconds.
Oh, I was able to upload the site, which as you say was slow to load, but I wasn't able to log in to make any posts.
Sorry, didn't test the forums. Not to worry though, I'm sure Bismarck will post something witty in the next couple of months.
The new front page is fine. Nothing special, but it's functional. Whatever.
The real benchmark will be the new forums. Unless they make a clean slate there and keep out the proverbial riff-raff (which frankly I don't see happening, but I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised) that brought down the place before, it's just putting lipstick on a pig.
Quote from: Martok on February 11, 2016, 03:38:01 PM
it's just putting lipstick on a pig.
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have you dated that one?
How is it Jim Cobb and Bismarck didn't migrate over here (or are they the same person)? I do recall some good stuff from those guy(s).
didnt bismark come over?
who was the guy that got pissed we wouldnt take the 'best general' competition seriously?
i think he left soon after that
Quote from: Toonces on February 11, 2016, 05:09:13 PM
How is it Jim Cobb and Bismarck didn't migrate over here (or are they the same person)? I do recall some good stuff from those guy(s).
He's one and the same.
Quote from: undercovergeek on February 11, 2016, 05:27:36 PM
didnt bismark come over?
who was the guy that got pissed we wouldnt take the 'best general' competition seriously?
i think he left soon after that
And yet he won... it was fixed I tell you!!! :2funny:
That was a fun contest 😜
He came over, and then later left after some personal dust-ups
Quote from: mirth on February 11, 2016, 05:36:41 PM
That was a fun contest 😜
Certainly was, even if I if did rather sneakily get in with Alexander first! (not that it gave any edge... ::) ;)) :)
We should do another, maybe obscure generals who had the credit stolen from them e.g. von Hoffman/von Francois vs von Hindenburg at Tannenburg 1914? Another idea that appeals to me are the most overrated generals, and the world's worst generals. I wonder how Elphy Bey (1st Afghan War 1842) would compare to Guy de Lusignan/Gerard de Ridefort (Springs of Cresson, Horns of Hattin), or Comrade Stalin in June 1941?
I like the overrated generals idea. Lots to choose from there.
Quote from: mirth on February 11, 2016, 05:53:56 PM
I like the overrated generals idea. Lots to choose from there.
Lol! The battle of the egos! That would be fun. O0
y'all don't need us to set this up and run it. Create a thread in the Military History forum and go with it.
We don't have anything to offer as a prize.
Other than Gus.
Which is a small prize.
the competition starter should put up some personal loot - id be proud to hang some used Mirth pants above the fireplace
Don't hang them too close.
lol, to the fire?
Quote from: mirth on February 11, 2016, 05:59:22 PMWe don't have anything to offer as a prize.
we can probably come up with something
Quote from: bayonetbrant on February 11, 2016, 06:37:46 PM
Quote from: mirth on February 11, 2016, 05:59:22 PMWe don't have anything to offer as a prize.
we can probably come up with something
Other than Gus or my trousers?
We could collect some cheap Humble bundle Steam keys and give them out after the sales end so it will seem more prize-y.
That'll do pig. That'll do.
I am a great prize just ask...never mind.
And yes Jim Cobb = Bismarck.
Ask Jim Cobb? ... You saucy little minx!
He removed his teefs beforehand.
Quote from: bayonetbrant on February 11, 2016, 05:52:03 PM
He came over, and then later left after some personal dust-ups
Self-inflicted and completely inexplicably, I will add.
I thought he was channeling Von Moltke to win the contest.
To be fair- Cobb has a lot on his plate when away from the keyboard.
I know he retired from teaching. I'm sure that opened up a little time.
Quote from: Staggerwing on February 11, 2016, 07:48:15 PM
To be fair- Cobb has a lot on his plate when away from the keyboard.
Did he have salad on his plate?
No, a wheelchair.
Quote from: Staggerwing on February 11, 2016, 08:14:31 PM
No, a wheelchair.
I'm well aware of that. However, I stand by my characterization.
I try to read Jim Cobb's game reviews wherever they come out. He can write and has extensive historical and game knowledge.
My personal experience was that Jim was always a reasonable guy on the forums.
Quote from: LongBlade on February 11, 2016, 08:57:40 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on February 11, 2016, 08:14:31 PM
No, a wheelchair.
I'm well aware of that. However, I stand by my characterization.
Fair enough. Just adding a little background for the rest.
Quote from: airboy on February 11, 2016, 08:59:02 PM
My personal experience was that Jim was always a reasonable guy on the forums.
OK, I just wasted five minutes of my life trying to write an explanation of something that ultimately needs no further elaboration. I'm sure the PM's are long gone and there's no use dwelling on the past.
Somebody wants to buy me a beer (even virtually) I might be coaxed into sharing the tale in a dark pub on a stormy night. Otherwise, let's move on and celebrate the successful relaunch of a favorite old haunt. I wish Wargamer the best. (https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1081.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj349%2Flongblade%2FSmilies%2Fcheerswine.gif&hash=fa80af25b201a68d5276aefbb1473d4dc380d3e9)
And I'm in way over my head here.
Since when has that ever stopped you?! Or any of us for that matter?
I like the old grumpy grog Mr. Cobb.
fuck the wargamer.
Quote from: mirth on February 11, 2016, 09:25:29 PMAnd I'm in way over my head here.
The "disasters of dating" threads are over at WGer...
Quote from: bayonetbrant link=topic=16131.msg423969#msg423969 date=1455245588
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The "disasters of dating" threads are over at WGer...
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Christ, that's the Titanic and Luisitania combined of dating disasters.
well, you are the expert on that.
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on February 11, 2016, 10:36:10 PM
well, you are the expert on that.
Dating you sucks. No wonder you won't let me talk to the new GF.
Quote from: LongBlade on February 11, 2016, 09:13:16 PM
Quote from: airboy on February 11, 2016, 08:59:02 PM
My personal experience was that Jim was always a reasonable guy on the forums.
OK, I just wasted five minutes of my life trying to write an explanation of something that ultimately needs no further elaboration. I'm sure the PM's are long gone and there's no use dwelling on the past.
Somebody wants to buy me a beer (even virtually) I might be coaxed into sharing the tale in a dark pub on a stormy night. Otherwise, let's move on and celebrate the successful relaunch of a favorite old haunt. I wish Wargamer the best. (https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1081.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj349%2Flongblade%2FSmilies%2Fcheerswine.gif&hash=fa80af25b201a68d5276aefbb1473d4dc380d3e9)
Aww... Do tell... ::) >:D
The new Wargamer site is simply terrible. A disgrace. Very sad.
BTW...what the hell happened over there???!!!
Quote from: solops on February 27, 2016, 01:56:29 PMBTW...what the hell happened over there???!!!
you gotta be more specific...
I get the feeling my name is about to be taken in vain...
Quiet you and get back to painting your vampire army. I wanna see pics.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 27, 2016, 08:24:29 PM
Quiet you and get back to painting your vampire army. I wanna see pics.
I've made progress. Unfortunately I've tried to split the difference between painting them I really want (super detailed) and slapping out a bunch of guys who'll pass the three foot rule on the table. I'll see if I can get something posted in the next few days.