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Title: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 11, 2016, 07:19:33 PM
I know some folks like to play OOTP, saw information they will begin accepting pre orders starting the 18th....no information released yet as to what the major enhancements will be, guess will find out then.

To be honest, going to really try and not pre-order this year, unless something absolutely innovative and new included.  I have pre ordered every version for as long as I can remember, but over the last couple of years I have hardly played at all.  This year I look to stay strong!
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: bbmike on February 11, 2016, 08:19:38 PM
Yeah, I don't know either. I've bought every one since 7 but unless there's something really new (like great 3D graphics) I just don't know.
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Bison on February 11, 2016, 09:51:38 PM
I've upgraded the past couple of years but I always wait until the All-Star break or World Series, when OOTP goes on sale.
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 15, 2016, 04:08:53 PM
Quote from: Bison on February 11, 2016, 09:51:38 PM
I've upgraded the past couple of years but I always wait until the All-Star break or World Series, when OOTP goes on sale.

That might be the way to go this year for me as well....unless they announce something pre-order worthy:)
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: bbmike on February 15, 2016, 04:40:20 PM
Fun fact: my user name came from the OOTP site. I joined their forum in 2007. The 'bb' was for baseball and I put that in front of my first name. I didn't put any thought into it when I created my forum name there. As I joined a couple other sites around that time (like Wargamer) I just kept using that same, silly forum name. I should probably change it at some point.  :P
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 15, 2016, 04:43:42 PM
I have purchased just about all their releases, I think everything since their 2nd version (don't recall having the first, but maybe)....funny thing is, I probably played those earlier versions much more with their less complexity and features then their latest versions with everything under the sun included....maybe something to be said for keeping it simple.
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: sandman2575 on February 15, 2016, 06:51:20 PM
I'm kind of of the opinion that OOTP should come out with a new version on a 2-year cycle instead of every year.

Probably their bottom line wouldn't allow for that, but in some ways it would just make more sense. Just as one version of OOTP gets fully patched up (after like 8 patches -- not complaining, Markus and co. are committed to putting out a quality game), a new version is just a couple months away...

I'll buy OOTP 17 just because I want to support the franchise and devs. But I don't feel any need for a new version. The last few versions have all been fantastic.  OOTP 16 is by no means obsolete. No reason I couldn't easily play it for another year...
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 18, 2016, 06:48:12 PM
Markus said he made a mistake pre order and info date is Feb 19th...so looks like tomorrow instead.
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: KyzBP on February 18, 2016, 06:55:13 PM
I still haven't taken the wrapper off of 16.
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 18, 2016, 06:58:06 PM
Yep, the reason I plan on doing my best to hold off and wait to much later.....
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: sandman2575 on February 19, 2016, 08:31:08 AM
Welp, OOTP17 preorder now online

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/out-of-the-park-baseball-17.php (http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/out-of-the-park-baseball-17.php)

Nothing earth-shattering here (reinforcing my belief that OOTP should release new versions on a bi-annual basis, not every year, but anyhoo)

Will preorder. No resisting for me.   O0
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 19, 2016, 09:24:47 AM
Only thing that stands out for me is the multiple processor support to speed up the game...that would be nice
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 26, 2016, 07:38:06 PM
More detailed list of planned features released.....

Hey folks,

here is the complete OOTP 17 feature list so far. When we add more features prior to release (or we forgot something to list) then we'll update this post accordingly.

Please DO NOT use this thread for questions if feature XY was or will be added. Thank you

Major Changes
- Added 3D On-Field Player Movement
- Reworked real 3D MLB ballparks
- Official MLBPA licensing, including real FaceGen images for most major league players
- Added auto-generated game headlines and recaps
- Added the option to import historical minor leagues (including players) in historical games, including automatic realistic affiliation changes and minor league team relocations when the league progresses
- Added Historical Exhibition mode, have any 2 teams from history play against each other or set up any real World Series matchup including accurate rosters)
- Added multithreading abilities for up to 60% faster sim speed
- Redesigned game interface
- GMs now have much more personalized strategic tendencies
- Recoded scouting algorithms, young players are more often overrated and veterans are more accurately scouted
- Redesigned defensive engine allowing more shift options and increasing realism of defensive stats
- Users may define team needs (league trade screens section) and the AI will react to those with trade offers
- Improved in-game, roster & trade AI
- Improved player creation & development routines

Smaller Changes
- Added the option to assign custom names & abbreviations to league levels
- Adjust in-game logic (pinch hitting for pitchers)
- Small edits to pages (salary report, game page lineups, arbitration page)
- AI adjustments (playoff pitching rotation, bullpen generation, 40-man roster)
- Added leverage index to pitching stats, and splits by leverage for players
- Added leverage options to bullpen roles
- Adjusted player chemistry calculations
- Added option to allow human managers to be fired in online leagues
- Added option to have the AI set the minor league roster based on player skill or the conventional way, filling teams from top to bottom until no players are left (only available when "incomplete minors / ghost players is enabled)
- Expanded world hint text items
- Added multi-year player opt-outs in contracts
- Added the option to use semi-transparent boxes as background for content (game settings dialog)
- All-star game ballots now better reflect player positions and values
- Added option to always allow the GM control over lineups and pitching staffs even while playing GM-only
- The "Quick-play to RISP" function now stops on an injury
- Added the option to allow trading of injured players. Also, by default the game now allows trading of players with DtD injuries or injuries with a duration of 7 days or less.
- Added SQLite support to replace /news/txt files
- Add-Ons Central can handle zip files now in addition to tar gz files
- Added the option to edit draft eligible players if they are from college or HS
- Added the ability to export & import the draft order in CSV format (in commish mode, draft screen or draft order screen in transactions screen)
- The MLB quickstart / standard game has the real MLB draft order for 2016
- Improved AI handling of minor league systems
- Tweaked PM notifications for less frequent simulation interruptions
- Fixed minor league player DL notification
- Fixed minor league FA bug
- Fixed bug in AI pitcher evaluations
- Fixed draft display for players with impossible demands
- Several bug fixes and tweaks

Cheers,
Markus
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: bbmike on February 26, 2016, 07:56:36 PM
At least they are still plugging away on the 3D stuff.  O0
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 29, 2016, 08:00:01 PM
Looks like pre order offer extended until March 8th....
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: PanzersEast on March 01, 2016, 12:01:37 PM
MLBPA licensing is pretty huge..... trying not to give in.......

Over 150 authentic Minor League clubs with real logos and leagues, along with 8 international and several independent leagues, all with real rosters

PE
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: sandman2575 on March 01, 2016, 12:05:11 PM
Quote from: PanzersEast on March 01, 2016, 12:01:37 PM
trying not to give in.......


You should   ;)

I pre-ordered -- less out of huge excitement over this year's rather incremental changes than out of the desire to support Markus & Co.  $35 is a low asking price for a game of this magnitude, IMHO.
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: bbmike on March 01, 2016, 04:53:47 PM
I knew it. I caved.
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: sandman2575 on March 01, 2016, 05:19:23 PM
Quote from: bbmike on March 01, 2016, 04:53:47 PM
I knew it. I caved.

Good man.   O0
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Bison on March 01, 2016, 05:22:38 PM
I'm holding out. I have a decent ongoing home few league that I don't feel would benefit much from an update.
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: FC on March 02, 2016, 03:45:26 PM
I've pre-ordered as I'm a big fan of the i'm a sports management games in general and this series is amongst the best.

There is a brief interview with Markus from the OOTP team on Operation Sports:

http://www.operationsports.com/features/2456/ootp-17-developer-interview-favorite-new-features/ (http://www.operationsports.com/features/2456/ootp-17-developer-interview-favorite-new-features/)
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on March 02, 2016, 06:22:22 PM
&$!?)$##%# I hate myself.....caved yet another year and pre ordered:(

Well, at least held out longer....
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Father Ted on March 03, 2016, 01:54:37 PM
Quote from: FC on March 02, 2016, 03:45:26 PM
....and this series is amongst the best.


So, a question to everybody.  As a Brit, I have no feel for baseball at all.  I sort of understand the mechanics of the game, but don't know the history, the players, the league systems, the movement of players between teams, and so on.

Right, so the question is, could get I get one of these games and "Moneyball" it?
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: FC on March 03, 2016, 03:12:31 PM
I'm from the UK myself as well and I only had a basic understanding of the workings of US sports. As a big football (soccer) fan the salary cap, the college system, divisions, conferences, the draft etc was always a bit of a mystery. It's actually games like OOTP, FHM, Front Office Football, the Fast Break series etc. that has deepened my understanding and increased my appreciation of  US sports in real life.

A good way to learn the about the intricacies of the game and the sport in general is to follow a good quality 'Let's Play...' series on YouTube. You can also just jump in and makes tons of mistakes, find out why it was a mistake, and just gain knowledge that way.
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Father Ted on March 03, 2016, 04:32:22 PM
Quote from: FC on March 03, 2016, 03:12:31 PM
I'm from the UK myself as well and I only had a basic understanding of the workings of US sports. As a big football (soccer) fan the salary cap, the college system, divisions, conferences, the draft etc was always a bit of a mystery. It's actually games like OOTP, FHM, Front Office Football, the Fast Break series etc. that has deepened my understanding and increased my appreciation of  US sports in real life.

A good way to learn the about the intricacies of the game and the sport in general is to follow a good quality 'Let's Play...' series on YouTube. You can also just jump in and makes tons of mistakes, find out why it was a mistake, and just gain knowledge that way.

I appreciate what you're saying, but my point is could I just take the Moneyball approach to the game and succeed, rather than try to learn about the sport?  This is more of a hypothetical question really - I doubt I'll actually spend the time/money on the game to find out.    I suppose I'm interested in the idea in general gaming terms, rather than learning about baseball (though I've nothing against the sport).
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on March 03, 2016, 07:08:57 PM
Quote from: Father Ted on March 03, 2016, 04:32:22 PM
Quote from: FC on March 03, 2016, 03:12:31 PM
I'm from the UK myself as well and I only had a basic understanding of the workings of US sports. As a big football (soccer) fan the salary cap, the college system, divisions, conferences, the draft etc was always a bit of a mystery. It's actually games like OOTP, FHM, Front Office Football, the Fast Break series etc. that has deepened my understanding and increased my appreciation of  US sports in real life.

A good way to learn the about the intricacies of the game and the sport in general is to follow a good quality 'Let's Play...' series on YouTube. You can also just jump in and makes tons of mistakes, find out why it was a mistake, and just gain knowledge that way.

I appreciate what you're saying, but my point is could I just take the Moneyball approach to the game and succeed, rather than try to learn about the sport?  This is more of a hypothetical question really - I doubt I'll actually spend the time/money on the game to find out.    I suppose I'm interested in the idea in general gaming terms, rather than learning about baseball (though I've nothing against the sport).

Personally, I would think knowing baseball basics would be important to not only enjoying the game, but also knowing what to do in the game....I couldn't imagine trying to manage a baseball club without either already having the knowledge or willing to invest the time to learn at least the basics.  You may want to try the demo out, would give you an idea if something you could enjoy.
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on March 12, 2016, 06:06:47 PM
So if you plan to pick up OOTP 17 and haven't played 16, you might want to buy from here....when you buy 17 you get 16 free....something to play with before 17 comes out later this month:)

https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/out-of-the-park-baseball-17-plus-free-out-of-the-park-baseball-16
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: FC on March 13, 2016, 06:51:30 AM
Going off on a tangent here but it looks like the Beyond the Sidelines game from OOTPDevelopments is back on track with a new developer on board:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/bts-general-discussions/262427-bts-update-february-23rd.html (http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/bts-general-discussions/262427-bts-update-february-23rd.html)

I'd forgotten all about this game after it got indefinitely delayed when the previous lead developer had medical problems.
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on March 13, 2016, 07:20:49 AM
Quote from: FC on March 13, 2016, 06:51:30 AM
Going off on a tangent here but it looks like the Beyond the Sidelines game from OOTPDevelopments is back on track with a new developer on board:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/bts-general-discussions/262427-bts-update-february-23rd.html (http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/bts-general-discussions/262427-bts-update-february-23rd.html)

I'd forgotten all about this game after it got indefinitely delayed when the previous lead developer had medical problems.

Yep, it was good to see...but likely going to be awhile before we see much on this one...I would be very surprised if anything this year.
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on March 17, 2016, 06:48:46 PM
Eve of OOTP opening day of playing the game, for those that pre-ordered:)

If my habits are the same, I'll likely not get into it for awhile, but will still be nice to give it a tour.
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: bbmike on March 17, 2016, 07:15:59 PM
Wow, that sneaked up on me! I think with this version I'm going to start from scratch and not import anything. I'll keep my team and uniforms though.
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on March 17, 2016, 07:29:18 PM
Quote from: bbmike on March 17, 2016, 07:15:59 PM
Wow, that sneaked up on me! I think with this version I'm going to start from scratch and not import anything. I'll keep my team and uniforms though.

My only goal....to play the game more than 10 minutes:)  Really hope I end up committing to it this year....
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: PanzersEast on March 19, 2016, 12:02:26 PM
Cool feature is the any Era Exhibition.... 1927 Yankees vs 1975 Reds

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthesolovariant.com%2Fimages%2FOOTP1.png&hash=3f4f38900828881e9cbf2d987b2bc519f5fb0b84)
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthesolovariant.com%2Fimages%2FOOTP2.png&hash=efccdedd3031a4c07e65d074a15e8984567d73f4)
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on March 19, 2016, 07:07:18 PM
That is a nice feature...seems there are quite a few little bugs they have to iron out, said they plan to release an update sometime tomorrow....for me so far, nothing extremely earth shattering, but seems like another solid progression in the series.
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on March 20, 2016, 04:20:38 PM
New update listed....for those that did not pre-order and still wanted early access, you could buy now and get access to it since thy published public links now.

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/ootp-17-general-discussions/263704-new-ootp-17-bublic-beta-available-version-17-2-31-a.html
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: bayonetbrant on March 21, 2016, 06:25:25 PM
Easter eggs...  in time for Easter!

http://www.sportingnews.com/athletics-news/4698636-out-of-the-park-baseball-17-milb-minor-league-players-john-elway-michael-jordan
Title: Re: OOTP 17 - Pre-Orders Start Feb. 18th
Post by: Grim.Reaper on March 21, 2016, 06:33:51 PM
Nice, never thought to look for that within the game now that it has full minors....tomorrow is the full release for those that have not jumped in yet.