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Title: The 20 oldest cities in the world
Post by: MetalDog on February 14, 2016, 10:18:50 PM
My knowledge of Asian history is sketchy at best, but, I have to believe that there are sites there that are as old or older than the ones presented here.  Nevertheless, it's an interesting look through of where there's been a lot of history.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/article/travel-the-worlds-20-oldest-cities/ss-BBpjkL2?ocid=mailsignout#image=1
Title: Re: The 20 oldest cities in the world
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 14, 2016, 10:44:06 PM
the key is "continually inhabited" - there's older, but not continuously inhabited
Title: Re: The 20 oldest cities in the world
Post by: JasonPratt on February 15, 2016, 01:33:46 PM
Huh! Jericho for the win. (Also as the oldest known walled city, inhabited or otherwise. Makes its most famous Biblical story more interesting, kind of by accident -- the age of the walls isn't even a topic there.)
Title: Re: The 20 oldest cities in the world
Post by: Boggit on February 17, 2016, 12:25:11 AM
I'm surprised no Chinese cities made it - Luoyang springs to mind. Also Matera in Italy is supposed to have Stone Age origins too.
Title: Re: The 20 oldest cities in the world
Post by: JasonPratt on February 17, 2016, 01:42:36 PM
I'm kind of dubious about the list's validity myself; but maybe those cities haven't been continuously inhabited?

Granted, it would be weird for at least some Chinese cities (or Indian or anywhere in that region) not to have been continuously inhabited since those times.
Title: Re: The 20 oldest cities in the world
Post by: Boggit on February 18, 2016, 09:15:10 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on February 17, 2016, 01:42:36 PM
I'm kind of dubious about the list's validity myself; but maybe those cities haven't been continuously inhabited?

Granted, it would be weird for at least some Chinese cities (or Indian or anywhere in that region) not to have been continuously inhabited since those times.
Oh, but they have been. Luoyang was one of the ancient Chinese capitals, and continues as a city today https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luoyang . Matera is perhaps less convincing - it was founded by the Romans in the 3rd century BC (not a great example) - but the area has been continuously settled since the Palaeoithic period. I've misspelled that haven't I...? :-[
Title: Re: The 20 oldest cities in the world
Post by: Gusington on February 19, 2016, 06:14:49 PM
Only one man can verify that list. Where's Windy?
Title: Re: The 20 oldest cities in the world
Post by: Nefaro on February 20, 2016, 08:48:16 AM
Quote from: Boggit on February 17, 2016, 12:25:11 AM
I'm surprised no Chinese cities made it - Luoyang springs to mind. Also Matera in Italy is supposed to have Stone Age origins too.

Didn't Luoyang get temporarily wiped out by floods or something in ancient times?  Or maybe I'm thinking of some other Chinese cities.  Seemed pretty common in the distant past there.
Title: Re: The 20 oldest cities in the world
Post by: Sir Slash on February 20, 2016, 10:36:54 AM
I was thinking there were remains of an advanced civilization found on Malta that the experts thought pre-date anything else in Europe. Maybe the thinking has changed on this.
Title: Re: The 20 oldest cities in the world
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 20, 2016, 10:45:41 AM
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 20, 2016, 10:36:54 AM
I was thinking there were remains of an advanced civilization found on Malta that the experts thought pre-date anything else in Europe. Maybe the thinking has changed on this.

The article specifically notes they're the oldest continuously-occupied cities
Title: Re: The 20 oldest cities in the world
Post by: MetalDog on February 20, 2016, 01:17:29 PM
Sorry for the thread title confusion.  I don't always read what I read.