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Tabletop Gaming, Models, and Minis => Wargaming => Topic started by: Nefaro on February 17, 2016, 02:55:19 PM

Title: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: Nefaro on February 17, 2016, 02:55:19 PM
My will finally broke and I ordered the Oregon Laminations 2mm corner rounder from Amazon.

Was worried I'd lament dropping $50 on one of these instead of spending it on other gaming OCD goods.  Or yet another game, even.  But I can see that I'll have no buyer's remorse if it lasts plenty of uses.


*.. and when I get one that has even cutting guides on both sides.*


Be warned.  There is evidently an imperfect batch of 2mm rounders at the Amazon warehouse which is getting returned to them, but they keep putting them back in stock and sending them out.  Mine had some small telltale signs of previous light use in addition to the uneven cutter which people have been recently reporting in the review on Amazon. 

Gonna ship it back and try the 2.5mm in the hopes that it's cutting guide isn't flawed like this batch of 2mm ones that keep coming back like Malaria.


This hasn't been the first time I was sent a defective product from an Amazon warehouse which had obviously been returned to them previously.  Late last year, they sent me a supposedly new game which had no shrink wrap and was missing a part.  Only started getting these flawed returned items in the past few months.  :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: mirth on February 17, 2016, 02:59:50 PM
I can sense that my next gaming purchase is going to be a counter clipper.
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: Nefaro on February 17, 2016, 03:06:25 PM
Quote from: mirth on February 17, 2016, 02:59:50 PM
I can sense that my next gaming purchase is going to be a counter clipper.

LIES!


Should I mark a little greeting on the small model # tag for when you get this one I just returned?  We could just pass it around the group.  :D
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: Barthheart on February 17, 2016, 03:09:16 PM
Another lost soul...... when will the madness end.....  :'(
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: mirth on February 17, 2016, 03:10:58 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure I'm going to order from Amazon. Or maybe I'll wait until you try the 2.5mm model and can give us a review.  ;)
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: mirth on February 17, 2016, 03:12:26 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on February 17, 2016, 03:09:16 PM
Another lost soul...... when will the madness end.....  :'(

Sorry, man. I joined the cult some time ago. The only reason most of my counters aren't clipped is because they are still unpunched.
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: bbmike on February 17, 2016, 04:42:03 PM
I ordered mine from Amazon. The only problem I had was that it wasn't aligned and wouldn't even close! But there are two hex (or star?) head screws on the plate that allows you to adjust it. Once I did that everything was fine.
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: Nefaro on February 17, 2016, 11:22:46 PM
Quote from: bbmike on February 17, 2016, 04:42:03 PM
I ordered mine from Amazon. The only problem I had was that it wasn't aligned and wouldn't even close! But there are two hex (or star?) head screws on the plate that allows you to adjust it. Once I did that everything was fine.

The plates were fine with this one.  However, there are two vertical guide bars,  inside & flush with the plates, between the open spaces where the clippings can fall through. 

The one myself and some recent reviewers received has one of those which isn't flush with where the plates meet.  So when you slide a counter into the guide, it will go too far inside the clip line on the one side and slice a bit too much off one side of the counter. 


You can see some of the recent reviews mentioning this problem (with pics) here:

Amazon Review with good pic of issue (http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2F5MNKR2MRM8F/ref=cm_cr_pr_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00G2G340O)

Amazon Review with another (http://www.amazon.com/review/R34MDCUP2EC3V5/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00G2G340O&channel=detail-glance&nodeID=228013&store=hi)

Just a heads-up for those looking to get a 2mm version in the near future.

Beware The (uneven) Guides Of March!

QuoteEDIT:
I received and email from the manufacturer that they have sorted out the flaw and the next batch will be just perfect.


This holds some promise that it may eventually get fixed, but the current re-shipping of the defective ones by Amazon is still a problem.

I'd prefer to have the 2mm over the 2.5 but I'll just start getting furious if they keep sending me units from the bad batch which keep getting returned.  I may try it once to see if I get lucky (bonk-chika-baowww).



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Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: Pinetree on February 18, 2016, 01:25:22 AM
Yeah, my 2mm has that problem too. Only 1 of the sides is not flush with mine so I was using the other side but I did notice some early clippings were taking off more than they should. I bought mine direct from Oregon Laminations but I'm way past my 30 day replacement period.

edit: Bugger it, sent them an email anyway and see what they say...
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: Nefaro on February 18, 2016, 09:49:32 AM
Quote from: Pinetree on February 18, 2016, 01:25:22 AM
Yeah, my 2mm has that problem too. Only 1 of the sides is not flush with mine so I was using the other side but I did notice some early clippings were taking off more than they should. I bought mine direct from Oregon Laminations but I'm way past my 30 day replacement period.

edit: Bugger it, sent them an email anyway and see what they say...


Yep, that's the one.

Hopefully they can do something about it. 
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: Pinetree on February 18, 2016, 04:44:14 PM
Got an email back from them, they'll replace it with one from the new batch. I just have to pay for the shipping. Sounds fair to me.
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: bbmike on February 18, 2016, 04:59:26 PM
Thanks for the photos & links, guys. My 2.5mm definitely doesn't have that problem! I would certainly return it if it did. Glad to hear they are replacing your, Pinetree.
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: Nefaro on February 19, 2016, 04:15:47 PM
Yeah, sounds like a reasonable fix.  O0

I returned the 2mm to Amazon and ordered a 2.5mm since those don't seem to currently have the problem.  We'll see when it arrives tomorrow.
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: bob48 on February 19, 2016, 04:19:43 PM
Search as I may, I cannot find anyone in the UK who sells them.
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: Nefaro on February 19, 2016, 04:22:43 PM
Quote from: bob48 on February 19, 2016, 04:19:43 PM
Search as I may, I cannot find anyone in the UK who sells them.

Bloody savages!   :o


With their un-trimmed bits hanging out.  Cardboard sasquatch bikini lines.  Oh, the humanity!
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: bob48 on February 19, 2016, 04:56:29 PM
Never fear! I have a pair of heavy-duty nail clippers which, with care, suffice. Clearly, we lack the technology of our clipping brothers who dwell on't other side of the pond.
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: Nefaro on February 19, 2016, 05:10:27 PM
Quote from: bob48 on February 19, 2016, 04:56:29 PM
Clearly, we lack the technology of our clipping brothers who dwell on't other side of the pond.

That's a very nice way of saying, "spoiled colonials".  Quite considerate.     O0
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: Rekim on February 19, 2016, 05:52:34 PM
The only seller on amazon Canada is asking CDN$ 287.32 plus shipping for the Oregon 2.5mm

:uglystupid2:
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: Pinetree on February 19, 2016, 06:36:39 PM
I sound like a bit of a salesman here but I'm just curious why the Amazon love when you could order direct from Oregon Laminations and cut out the middleman.

http://www.oregonlam.com/C-006-2MM_2mm_Corner_Cutter_Punch_Rounder.html (http://www.oregonlam.com/C-006-2MM_2mm_Corner_Cutter_Punch_Rounder.html)

Their shipping is very reasonable with lots of options for you 'mericans. Rekim, you could get one for US$61.45 incl. shipping, which is about CDN$85 through them. I assumed by your local time in your profile you were in central Canada somewhere so I entered a Calgary postcode and selected 1st class priority international.
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: LongBlade on February 19, 2016, 10:17:08 PM
Quote from: Rekim on February 19, 2016, 05:52:34 PM
The only seller on amazon Canada is asking CDN$ 287.32 plus shipping for the Oregon 2.5mm

:uglystupid2:

I'll buy one from Amazon US and mail it to you all-in for $175.  8)
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: Nefaro on February 20, 2016, 01:12:07 AM
Quote from: Pinetree on February 19, 2016, 06:36:39 PM
I sound like a bit of a salesman here but I'm just curious why the Amazon love when you could order direct from Oregon Laminations and cut out the middleman.



I currently have Prime.  So 2-day shipping at no cost.

If I didn't have that advantage, I would certainly consider ordering direct.  Not the best option, time or money-wise, in my circumstance.
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: Pinetree on February 20, 2016, 02:10:18 AM
Free shipping is definitely worth it. Shipping anything from the states down to here almost doubles the price of anything I purchase.
Title: Re: Adventures In Counter Clipping
Post by: Nefaro on February 21, 2016, 10:09:29 PM
Well.. got the 2.5mm one in.

There are a couple spots where the guides stick out a bit further, due to the steel piece having a couple small uneven cuts, but it's close enough for me to work with.

Can see I'll have to lube the rails up on it before next use.  I clipped one sheet of counters and whatever lubrication they had on the steel posts has dissipated enough to make the action noticeably more resistant.  Easy fix.