...coming mid to late June. Sounds interesting. June is turning into a good month for us gamers :D
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?610568-1.06-Information-amp-First-Expansion&p=13886096#post13886096
"The 1.06 update is now nearing completion, and it is now in QA. We aim to release it in mid to late june, with an exact date to be confirmed soon, and at the same time release our first expansion, the Sword of Islam, with a suggested price of 9.99€.
The patch will include lots of new features for free, including expansion of the map into Mali-Songhay, differentiation on strong and weak claims, new plot, expanded combat, and other features to be announced later.
Sword of Islam will enable playable Muslims, with lots of specific new mechanics for the muslims, creating a whole new experience for the player, where laws, marriage, holdings, traits, titles and more work entirely different."
^Now that has my attention. Sounds great. Sounds like it will need the original game to play.
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^It would make for a much better game if they did.
Once you start playing offending other potentates will probably be part of the fun.
Quote from: eyebiter on May 30, 2012, 10:24:37 AM
Those Swedes better be careful not to "offend" followers of the "religion of peace."
Psssh... The Islamic empires of the Middle Ages has a fairly positive track record of being progressive, culturally advanced, technologically savvy, and tolerant. If that offends anyone, they need to examine their own history.
No need to politicize this. There are copious amounts of records kept by the Muslim empires and numerous first-hand accounts by writers. It is, largely, what it is.
Being a complete idiot, I accidentally bought the Steam version of the Ruler Designer DLC.
Would anyone like it? You MUST have a Steam copy of CKII.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on May 30, 2012, 03:42:46 PM
Being a complete idiot, I accidentally bought the Steam version of the Ruler Designer DLC.
Would anyone like it? You MUST have a Steam copy of CKII.
SoM - If no one else is interested, please PM me. I got my copy of CK2 from Gamestop, but it activated on Steam, does that count as a Steam version? I've got a couple of unused serial #s on Gamersgate, maybe we could make a trade? Thx...
I think I am going to have to get this.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on May 30, 2012, 02:58:20 PM
Quote from: eyebiter on May 30, 2012, 10:24:37 AM
Those Swedes better be careful not to "offend" followers of the "religion of peace."
Psssh... The Islamic empires of the Middle Ages has a fairly positive track record of being progressive, culturally advanced, technologically savvy, and tolerant. If that offends anyone, they need to examine their own history.
No need to politicize this. There are copious amounts of records kept by the Muslim empires and numerous first-hand accounts by writers. It is, largely, what it is.
Not a political comment, just the Gadfly in me:
The Islamic culture in the middle ages was indeed ahead of the west in so many ways. The issue is that the the Sharia Caliphate advocated by the current political exteremists not only runs counter to most modern ideals but it even runs counter to those benchmarks in multiculturalism set by the more notable Islamic Empires of old.
Quote from: TheCommandTent on May 30, 2012, 07:08:37 PM
I think I am going to have to get this.
Same here. Whenever I get around to picking up CK2, getting
Sword of Islam will be a must-have for me.
Quote from: Martok on May 30, 2012, 09:37:56 PM
Quote from: TheCommandTent on May 30, 2012, 07:08:37 PM
I think I am going to have to get this.
Same here. Whenever I get around to picking up CK2, getting Sword of Islam will be a must-have for me.
You don't have CK2? tsk tsk tsk... :P
^Me neither. I am sort of medieval-ed out after played MTW2 to death over the last 5-6 years. But this expansion will be the reason I get it.
Quote from: TheCommandTent on May 31, 2012, 08:15:08 AM
Quote from: Martok on May 30, 2012, 09:37:56 PM
Quote from: TheCommandTent on May 30, 2012, 07:08:37 PM
I think I am going to have to get this.
Same here. Whenever I get around to picking up CK2, getting Sword of Islam will be a must-have for me.
You don't have CK2? tsk tsk tsk... :P
I know, I know! I've mostly been waiting for a couple reasons.
1.) I've had it drilled into my head for so long that you wait at least a year before picking up a Paradox game, that -- despite most gamers asserting
Crusader Kings 2 has been reasonably stable and polished since release -- I've been holding off on purchasing it out of sheer reflex. (I definitely can't say I've been holding off because of the Steam requirement, since the GamersGate version doesn't use it.)
2.) Bearing in mind all the DLC and/or expansion packs that are sure to still appear for this game, it's (again) something of a force of habit for me to wait until a bundled version is available. It's probably just the anal-retentive neurotic in me, but I really hate purchasing multiple separate add-ons for a game -- such as what I did with Paradox's EU3. For as good as CK2 reputedly already is, I know it's probably foolish for me to wait for a bundle of some sort, but I'm just stupid that way...
^I am usually the same way with most games. I wait till they are patched several times or have a good deal. Unfortunately then I miss out on all the discussions about the games right after they come out. By the time I want to discuss a game its old news to everybody :)
^Not this time. I'll get CKII once this expansion is released. I just hope it is not as hard for me to grasp as the EU series was.
Quote from: Gusington on May 31, 2012, 12:59:32 PM
^Not this time. I'll get CKII once this expansion is released. I just hope it is not as hard for me to grasp as the EU series was.
So many jokes to be made about this statement.
Quote from: Bison on May 31, 2012, 05:37:52 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 31, 2012, 12:59:32 PM
^Not this time. I'll get CKII once this expansion is released. I just hope it is not as hard for me to grasp as the EU series was.
So many jokes to be made about this statement.
I better not make them, or he'll accuse me of calling him a moron again. ;)
I could never get into EU...I just could not get into it.
What?
Quote from: Gusington on May 31, 2012, 08:56:00 PM
I could never get into EU...I just could not get into it.
What?
Could you get into Victoria? *wink wink* *nudge nudge*
I know this is a little off topic but would appreciate the help. Like a previous poster I too bought the gamersgate version not knowing I was getting the Steam version. Now that I am stuck with it (and a steam account I really did not want) I would like to know if I can put a copy of Crusader King II on my laptop. I have looked through the steam forums but am not sure I have found a post that would help me
Thanks
Jack
Quote from: jcrohio on June 01, 2012, 06:52:19 AM
I know this is a little off topic but would appreciate the help. Like a previous poster I too bought the gamersgate version not knowing I was getting the Steam version. Now that I am stuck with it (and a steam account I really did not want) I would like to know if I can put a copy of Crusader King II on my laptop. I have looked through the steam forums but am not sure I have found a post that would help me
Thanks
Jack
You should be able to install STEAM on your laptop and then go to your games library in STEAM and re-download CKII
Quote from: TheCommandTent on June 01, 2012, 07:15:26 AM
Quote from: jcrohio on June 01, 2012, 06:52:19 AM
I know this is a little off topic but would appreciate the help. Like a previous poster I too bought the gamersgate version not knowing I was getting the Steam version. Now that I am stuck with it (and a steam account I really did not want) I would like to know if I can put a copy of Crusader King II on my laptop. I have looked through the steam forums but am not sure I have found a post that would help me
Thanks
Jack
You should be able to install STEAM on your laptop and then go to your games library in STEAM and re-download CKII
+1
Steam has pros and cons, but one of the big advantages is that you can log into your account and play any game from it on any computer.
Make sure you *never* share that account, as Steam takes a very dim view of people trying to "share" games on the same account and they will ban you for life if they think you're pirating.
That said, so long as you only have one person logged into your Steam account, you can install a game on as many machines as you'd like (I think - I've never heard of a limit). The catch is you can only play one game at a time.
As SoM notes, the way to do this is to install the Steam app on the machine(s) you want to game on, then log in when you want to play.
I would love to play Victoria but the EU series tainted me on these games for the most part. I am hoping that CK II is more accessible and feels a bit more substantial than opening/closing 1000 pop up windows.
Quote from: Gusington on June 01, 2012, 09:35:48 AM
I would love to play Victoria but the EU series tainted me on these games for the most part. I am hoping that CK II is more accessible and feels a bit more substantial than opening/closing 1000 pop up windows.
I was mostly making a crude innuendo joke regarding Vicky.
But to the more serious topic of pop up windows, CKII has largely removed that by having this little mailbox thing to the right where all your news goes. You can open it an read them when you want and you can customize as to what level of news is worthy of your attention. It has an important news slot and a general news slot - both customizable.
This is both good and bad, it keeps those annoying pop ups away but you can miss key things, like the assassination of your heir, if you don't keep track of it.
You do get event pop ups, and quite a few, but those are fun and allow you to "choose your own adventure." Way better than the "A Merchant from Wallachia is Competing in your Market" messages that used to spam constantly.
Quote from: jcrohio on June 01, 2012, 06:52:19 AM
I know this is a little off topic but would appreciate the help. Like a previous poster I too bought the gamersgate version not knowing I was getting the Steam version. Now that I am stuck with it (and a steam account I really did not want) I would like to know if I can put a copy of Crusader King II on my laptop. I have looked through the steam forums but am not sure I have found a post that would help me
Thanks
Jack
I'm pretty sure, in the specific case of CKII, that you can copy the game files directly elsewhere and run the game using the "ck2_RD" executable.
I've had to do that before, in testing, so unless Paradox added in-game stuff that links into Steam's program lately you should be able to run it without Steam going in the background.
Thanks for all the replies - I will install steam on my laptop and go from there
Jack
I've confirmed that my CK2 will run without Steam going in the background, if you run the CK2_RD.exe.
So perhaps you might copy the game install over to a flash drive or DVD and copy back over to the laptop & see if it works?
Any of you that don't have CKII yet, you should grab it here:
http://www.amazon.com/Paradox-Interactive-41051dox-Package1-Plentiful/dp/B0085CD7BE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1338565553&sr=8-1
$12 for all those Paradox titles, pretty good deal! The sale is ending soon, however.
Other than being able to play as a Muslim nation, which doesn't particularly interest me, is the expansion adding anything that's not going to be in the free patch?
^It expands the map and adds features to the combat system, according to Paradox.
Those are good details listed above on the changes to gameplay SoM, thanks.
So would you say CK II is more streamlined than the Paradox games that have come before it?
Quote from: Gusington on June 02, 2012, 02:56:39 PM
^It expands the map and adds features to the combat system, according to Paradox.
The free patch does the same. So what I'm asking is if you don't care about playing as Muslims, is there any reason to buy the expansion?
I don't have any desire to play an Islamic country either.
Quote from: TheCommandTent on May 31, 2012, 12:50:32 PM
^I am usually the same way with most games. I wait till they are patched several times or have a good deal. Unfortunately then I miss out on all the discussions about the games right after they come out. By the time I want to discuss a game its old news to everybody :)
Yes, that is unfortunately one of the trade-offs one makes in waiting to purchase. Decisions, decisions...
Quote from: tgb on June 02, 2012, 03:09:49 PM
Quote from: Gusington on June 02, 2012, 02:56:39 PM
^It expands the map and adds features to the combat system, according to Paradox.
The free patch does the same. So what I'm asking is if you don't care about playing as Muslims, is there any reason to buy the expansion?
From what I've read, no. The new DLC appears to be almost exclusively geared for the Muslim factions.
Quote from: Gusington on June 02, 2012, 02:56:39 PM
^It expands the map and adds features to the combat system, according to Paradox.
Those are good details listed above on the changes to gameplay SoM, thanks.
So would you say CK II is more streamlined than the Paradox games that have come before it?
I would say that CKII has the most friendly UI of the ones before. The complexity comes mostly from the dynasty planning (and keeping track of all they dynastic issues and connections). It certainly does not have all the insane detail of the world market that is in Vicky II and you really only have to keep track of a few unit types, unlike the Hearts of Iron series. Part of the issue with the EU, HoI, and Vicky games came from the large number of trade goods and merchant systems. You don't have to worry about that in CKII, which makes the game easier to pick up.
Grab it cheap in that Paradox pack. You can't go wrong with $12 for that many games.
^Kewl, I'm sold on this. Despite current events Muslim history fascinates me and I do enjoy playing as Muslim factions.
Quote from: Gusington on June 03, 2012, 07:04:08 PM
^Kewl, I'm sold on this. Despite current events Muslim history fascinates me and I do enjoy playing as Muslim factions.
Ditto. Egypt was my second-favorite faction in
Medieval Total War (after the Spanish).
Quote from: Gusington on June 02, 2012, 02:56:39 PM
So would you say CK II is more streamlined than the Paradox games that have come before it?
It's better in many ways, compared to the other Pdox games using this engine over the last few years.
Not sure what you mean by "streamlined" however. Are you asking about how friendly the tutorials & such are when you're first getting into it?
^Yeah pretty much. I remember in the first EU game being bombarded with pop-up messages and not feeling like I was really playing anything. Looking to see if that has changed.
I enjoyed many MTW Muslim factions. I won my quickest campaign by playing Egypt in the M2TW Crusades campaign. IIRC I won the campaign in under 25 turns.
Also love the Persians in Stainless Steel but most of you already know that, as I have professed my love for them (in-game!) many times.
The tutorials are probably some of the better ones Paradox has made, but that may not be saying much. They interactive in places, walking you through how to do something kinda like EU3 did. But there is more content in the CK2 tutorials than all the other ones that I recall (which were mostly just reading text).
If the meat of the game is done well enough then I will push myself through uninspiring tutorials.
Quote from: Gusington on June 04, 2012, 10:15:49 AM
If the meat of the game is done well enough then I will push myself through uninspiring tutorials.
The consensus is that the 'meat' of the game is super-awesome bitchin' dude. ;) Watch yo' back! Because everyone's out to stab it!
I can't really argue with super-awesome bitchin' and such :)
Gus : Two absolute essentials for starting with any Pdox game.
1. Check out the wikis. Here's the one for EU3 : http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Main_Page
And here is the one fr CK2 : http://crusaderkings-two.wikia.com/wiki/Crusader_Kings_II_Wiki
People do a great job throwing a pile of information on those for how to play the game, suggested early turn moves, guides for every single country and so on.
2. Youtube How to Play videos. Just go over to YT and type in How to Play Crusader Kings to (or EU3). Watch, learn.
You'll still make horrible mistakes as you learn how the game world reacts to what you'll do, but at least you'll know what the buttons do and where to go to change tax rates and so on.
Actually, I haven't played CK2 in so long that I should probably take a bit of a refresher...
^That's the great and terrible thing about modern PC games like these...we all could make careers of playing them. Thanks for those links, I will definitely be using them. Wish they existed back in 2000 when I needed one for EU.
Quote from: Arctic Blast on June 04, 2012, 02:45:44 PM
Actually, I haven't played CK2 in so long that I should probably take a bit of a refresher...
I've been getting the itch to fire up another campaign, too. There have been multiple updates since I last played (I watch to see what gets updated when I eventually log in to Steam) so I'm guessing that they patched the patch that foogered some stuff up a few months ago. ;D
I'd also like to play some Muslim leader in the xpac, but not sure if I can purchase that for my Beta Tester freebie version, since it's titled differently on Steam (although the versions are now the same). Steam has already plastered me with an advert for the Islam DLC, so perhaps it's active for this one too. Yes, that's why I have the Steam version and not the GG version - had to for beta. :-\ I'll probably purchase a retail version from GG when they have a sale later in the future.
some more info on CK2: Sword of Islam from RPS:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/21/consultan-the-creator-ckii-sword-of-islam-interview/#more-113138
...and this little tidbit "Thanks for the interview! I am happy to report that Crusader Kings II is still doing very well and the future looks bright. We have planned the next four expansions in some detail, and I think people will be pleased with the subject matters!"
Out next week! Oh dear.
Has a price been identified yet?
I keep seeing $9.99.
^Yes that's what it stated at the end of the RPS interview.
Excellent...thanks!
^The least I can do for you with your help in the Civ thread :)
Quote from: Gusington on June 21, 2012, 07:41:31 PM
Out next week! Oh dear.
WHAT THE WHAT! Well, that's awesome! I had it figured for fall.
I know! It will be a battle for my soul between Civ V, CKII and that Real Warfare Teutonic game. I have been trying to break my addiction to medieval themed games but good ones keep coming out. Bastards.
Civ V has been eating my face. I literally stayed up to 4:00 am to play it two nights in a row. Not helpful when I need to course prep and read textbooks the next day!
does Sword of islam do anything to the base game if im not interested in the Muslims other than mashing them with the King of Leon?
Don't feel bad SoM...I get up a half hour after you've been going to bed.
I absolutely love Crusader Kings 2, almost more than EU3 (almost...). I may pass on this DLC for a future one, if they ever address playing as Orthodox. I find playing within the BE to be the most enjoyable. I'm currently waging an insurgency against the Golden Horde after they destroyed the Kingdom of Rus (and thus most of my Russian inheritance).
Sword of Islam is available on Gamersgate (don't see it on Steam yet). Also two more DLCs: African Unit Pack and Songs of the Caliph...
http://www.gamersgate.com/DLC-CK2SI/crusader-kings-ii-sword-of-islam
http://www.gamersgate.com/DLC-CK2AUP/crusader-kings-ii-african-unit-pack
http://www.gamersgate.com/DLC-CK2SOC/crusader-kings-ii-songs-of-the-caliph
p.s./fyi: apparently the GG's version of Sword of Islam only works with the GG's version of Crusader Kings II.
I will be downloading tonight.
This is a banner summer for me learning new game systems. First Civ V and Gods and Kings, now Crusader Kings II.
I just noticed that the small print on GG says "Only work with GamersGate version of Crusader Kings II". If you bought from GG, then you're OK, otherwise (like me) you'll need to wait for the Steam version....
Is the Steam version not out yet? I did buy from Steam.
Don't see it on Steam yet, but it should be up sometime today...probably later this afternoon.
Dammit Steve and you got me all hot under the collar!!
lol...yeah I was ready to download it right now too....glad I noticed the disclaimer. I'm pretty sure it'll be available when you're ready to get it tonight.
Fine Steve. Fine. :)
It may not show up on Steam until early tomorrow morning.
IIRC that's happened before, when released through non-Steam channels too. Get your cattle prods out. :P
With the rumor of a Steam sale lurking...do we wait?
rumors? what rumors? :)
I'd be surprised (happy, but surprised) if it was included in the sale...
^You're probably right about that. I'm sure there will be 10 other things that pop up in the sale that will whet the old gaming whistle though.
Sword of Islam is out on Steam...
Have to get through my epic poem of a commute before I am back at my home computer. But thank you Steve, I am definitely getting it tonight.
Whoever wants a free Gamersgate version of Sword of Islam let me know. Found out its not compatible with the Steam version. Oh well, you can benefit from my stupidity. First come first serve or whoever I like the most.
Quote from: bboyer66 on June 26, 2012, 08:25:34 PM
Whoever wants a free Gamersgate version of Sword of Islam let me know. Found out its not compatible with the Steam version. Oh well, you can benefit from my stupidity. First come first serve or whoever I like the most.
I'll take it please, thank you.
I'll be more than happy to reimburse you.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 26, 2012, 08:37:26 PM
Quote from: bboyer66 on June 26, 2012, 08:25:34 PM
Whoever wants a free Gamersgate version of Sword of Islam let me know. Found out its not compatible with the Steam version. Oh well, you can benefit from my stupidity. First come first serve or whoever I like the most.
I'll take it please, thank you.
I'll be more than happy to reimburse you.
No reimbursement needed. PM me your email so I can send it.
^Where the hell have you been?
So I bought it but can't install it because Steam can't find the license update...can someone explain this to me?
^install it through the ingame store.
Quote from: Gusington on June 26, 2012, 08:59:18 PM
^Where the hell have you been?
So I bought it but can't install it because Steam can't find the license update...can someone explain this to me?
Gus, I had the same issue. I shut down steam, waited about 10 minutes, restarted it and the DLC downloaded.
Yeah, Steam sometimes needs to be restarted to download DLC. I also had to download it from the ingame store with my GG copy. Not the most elegant of installation methods.
Anybody had the time to play this new content or the major patch? Impressions? Does things seem better, worse, or the same?
I'll ask this question here too:
Anyone know if I have to update to 1.6 first if I'm also buying Sword of Islam? Or will purchasing the latter make getting the patch a moot point?
^The patch was applied once the DLC was applied. I started the game and the DLC suddenly snapped-to and got itself going.
So...I don't think you have to update to 1.6 if you have a Steam copy of CKII vanilla. Steam (your former sworn enemy) will do it for you.
Actually, I got my copy of CK2 from GamersGate. :P
^GG should do the same thing, no?
No idea. That's why I was asking, to be honest.
Click on the "Check for Updates" tab on the start-up, then download and apply the update.
The DLC itself was completely v1.6 so you shouldn't have to patch beforehand - it'll be included.
You would only need to use the v1.6 update if you did not buy the Islam DLC, since it will bring the base game code up-to-date.
As far as I remember, expansions were always released with the new updates included - it's the norm.
My GG experience.
Bought the game from the website. No installer.
Updated CK II using the launcher.
Ran the game. Clicked the "Sword of Islam" announcement in the menu to activate the DLC list.
Click Sword of Islam for redownload.
Restart the game.
Quote from: Gusington on June 26, 2012, 08:59:18 PM
So I bought it but can't install it because Steam can't find the license update...can someone explain this to me?
Just be happy you didn't have to wait two weeks for your key to be sent to you, like some of us who purchased DCS Black Shark through Steam. What a mess that was. :-\
Thanks guys! Appreciate it.