http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?24740-Paradox-Interactive-amp-Paradox-France
Odd. I just read a tweet that contained something very similar about Sega, Sega France and Creative Assembly that turned out to be a false rumor. Something is in the air over in Europe today.
bbq smoke and post jubilee hangovers where i am!!
i think this is a polite way of saying it hasnt worked out - im thinking maybe Paradox got all high and mighty about the Clausewitz engine and the 2 Phils have thought there is no way theyre letting the AGE engine go and have stuck to their guns - im beta testing Alea Jacta Est and it looks astounding
This is an interesting developement. I did have my wonders about the direction of the new Napoleon's Campaign 2. The talk about the game was a development toward a more HOI style game, which is not necessarily a bad thing but not the more true to history style of previous Ageod games. I wish them the best of luck. There is a some good potential on the horizon with the new development plan using the AJE model and they've stated a renewed effort to polish up PoN.
Paradox's statement: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?611767-Paradox-Interactive-amp-Paradox-France&s=c051a0dfa014e13356859b512ac520f1
Sounds like a marriage of convenience became no longer convenient. I enjoy each of their products. May they both emerge stronger.
Quote from: undercovergeek on June 04, 2012, 01:20:08 PM
im beta testing Alea Jacta Est and it looks astounding
I was so thankful to hear that AGEOD was going to stick with the Athena gamine engine for this one. Glad to hear it looks good. Hoping for a late summer release...realistic?
As a conspiracy theory, I'd think this was more driven by PI. The lure of a new game opening a new and popular era in the style of a HOI grand strategy was too much to not have control over it's development.
Well, they're still technically under the Paradox banner, so this isn't a full bore separation.
Actually, I think it's pretty commendable on both sides. They realize they work better as singular companies, and Paradox is willing to do that. they aren't forcing the France team to change their way of doing business, they're giving them development autonomy. That's pretty rare.
I'm sure that there is a back story we will never hear about regarding this development. At least for both their sakes, it seems to be an amicable seperation.
I'm so glad that AGEOD has liberated themselves from the yoke of oppression. They have the better brains, game engines, concepts, etc. than Paradox of late.
Live long and proser AGEOD!!
Sometimes it's good not to put all of your eggs in one basket.
Sounds like the development houses will be run separately - not too dissimilar to how many major publishers operate today. I think this is probably a smart decision on both of their parts.
I hope they try to fix PoN and not just throw it on the dustheap.
Quote from: mikeck on June 04, 2012, 01:53:08 PM
Quote from: undercovergeek on June 04, 2012, 01:20:08 PM
im beta testing Alea Jacta Est and it looks astounding
I was so thankful to hear that AGEOD was going to stick with the Athena gamine engine for this one. Glad to hear it looks good. Hoping for a late summer release...realistic?
so far i see no reason to disagree with that Mikeck
Wow, I'll admit I'm surprised by this news. I'm not displeased, though -- I think AGEOD is much better off being able to operate autonomously.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on June 04, 2012, 03:24:49 PM
I hope they try to fix PoN and not just throw it on the dustheap.
They already announced they've begun work on a new update, so it doesn't sound like they're abandoning it.
I don't place much stock in their announcements anymore.
Quote from: Martok on June 04, 2012, 05:57:58 PM
Wow, I'll admit I'm surprised by this news. I'm not displeased, though -- I think AGEOD is much better off being able to operate autonomously.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on June 04, 2012, 03:24:49 PM
I hope they try to fix PoN and not just throw it on the dustheap.
They already announced they've begun work on a new update, so it doesn't sound like they're abandoning it.
The Phils have indeed said that they would be working on PoN updates to improve the game.
Quote from: Bison on June 04, 2012, 06:23:30 PM
The Phils have indeed said that they would be working on PoN updates to improve the game.
This seemed to be a bone of contention between the AGEOD guys and the Paradox people. The Phils have been talking about their hope to return to PON and get it fixed up but their being pushed onto the Clausewitz thing blotting that out. Adding 2+2 tells me that Thib's post mentioning have a lot of time to patch up PON, last week or so, should tell us that they obviously decided to follow their own path again since Pdox wasn't going to support this crazy "fix bugs" idea. ;D
I'm happy they've been let off the leash to hold to their previous dedication of patching their games up no matter how long it takes. While Paradox has improved their updating (thus far) with CK2, they have still left nasty bugginess unpatched in some of their games (*cough* Vic2 *cough*EU3 *cough* EU:Rome!!) or even charge to partially do so in expansions. :-\ That tendency probably drove the Phils nuts.
Yeah patching / support philosophy of both companies are quite different.
This is actually good news since the AGE engine will live on even in the Pardox ecosystem.
We thought it was going to die-off already.
Very satisfied...
Quote from: jomni on June 04, 2012, 09:07:14 PM
Yeah patching / support philosophy of both companies are quite different.
This is actually good news since the AGE engine will live on even in the Pardox ecosystem.
We thought it was going to die-off already.
While I'm joyed to hear AGEOD has left the Paradox path, I
would like to see something fresh from the AGE guys eventually.
AJE looks great, though. 8)