I'm tired of this MF Gorilla on this MF island. Is that Loki being a Good Guy? Boring. :coolsmiley:
Reboot for the Godzillaverse ahoy!
...so, will Pacific Rim get rebooted too? Seems like the only way forward. ^-^
Notably, Kong has to be much larger now (I've seen information suggesting 100 feet, or about 1/3 of G's current height).
Also notably, the 70s setting. Meaning Kong will be getting even bigger between then and the 2020 GvsKong film...? Looking forward to any nods to the 70s remake. Edited to add: on reflection, the choice to make Kong look more like a Bigfoot (much more humanoid in shape and movement) not only makes sense for eventually bringing him better into the Gverse, but also hearkens back to the 70s film and Rick Baker's pretty amazing suit.
Second trailer dropped yesterday:
That version tacks on the 1st trailer afterward for convenient comparison (the same 1st trailer as in the OP).
This movie looks like a
lot of fun. O0 :smitten: Very Marvel-esque.
Quote from: JasonPratt on November 17, 2016, 09:17:38 AM
This movie looks like a lot of fun. O0 :smitten:
It does look like campy fun. Reminded me a lot of Pacific Rim.
He shouldn't be hard to track. Just follow the Winnebago-sized piles of Kong-Pooh.
Quote from: mirth on November 17, 2016, 12:37:23 PM
It does look like campy fun. Reminded me a lot of Pacific Rim.
There we go, yep. It's the tone that G2014 should have had if they were going to go for the Showa-era "grumpy protector of the Earth" route, instead of faking us out with the apparent grimdark horror of Godzilla.
But then, there's evidence of the script having gone through a megaton of changes before, and possibly during, production. For one thing, G2014's original height was going to be twice as tall, over SIX HUNDRED FEET (tall, and longer than that of course), in fairly late pre-production scripts. That's why his scale seems so wonky on some of the more obscure shots -- and that poster of him looming over SanFran would have been a lot closer to scale.
Quote from: JasonPratt on November 17, 2016, 08:29:11 PM
Quote from: mirth on November 17, 2016, 12:37:23 PM
It does look like campy fun. Reminded me a lot of Pacific Rim.
There we go, yep. It's the tone that G2014 should have had if they were going to go for the Showa-era "grumpy protector of the Earth" route, instead of faking us out with the apparent grimdark horror of Godzilla.
It would have helped too if Bryan Cranston hadn't been killed off in the first 20 minutes.
Very much so. Although given the logistics of the plot they ended up with, I can understand why: his character couldn't really contribute more from that point.
(I mean, he could have worked with a different plot; but not really with the one they ended up with.)
Quote from: JasonPratt on November 17, 2016, 08:34:16 PM
Very much so. Although given the logistics of the plot they ended up with, I can understand why: his character couldn't really contribute more from that point.
(I mean, he could have worked with a different plot; but not really with the one they ended up with.)
He could have fought Godzilla hand-to-hand. Would have made for a better movie than they gave us.
Also, I fully expect PacRim2, which I think I've seen confirmed somewhere, will and should be a reboot taking the situation of that movie's prologue and introducing it into the G-verse: alien Cthulhuesque things open a portal to invade, humanity has already started working on the Jaegers to stand against the more hostile kaiju (and maybe against the less hostile ones, too), lots of great plot opportunities to develop and bring in classic Toho kaiju along with PacRim kaiju and Jags.
Who knows -- maybe one of the first Jaegers this time will be named Jet Jaeguar. :D :smitten:
So they can bring back Idris Elba? I'm all for that.
I hadn't even thought of that, but I approve! O0
Quote from: JasonPratt on November 17, 2016, 08:38:57 PM
Also, I fully expect PacRim2, which I think I've seen confirmed somewhere, will and should be a reboot taking the situation of that movie's prologue and introducing it into the G-verse: alien Cthulhuesque things open a portal to invade, humanity has already started working on the Jaegers to stand against the more hostile kaiju (and maybe against the less hostile ones, too), lots of great plot opportunities to develop and bring in classic Toho kaiju along with PacRim kaiju and Jags.
Who knows -- maybe one of the first Jaegers this time will be named Jet Jaeguar. :D :smitten:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2557478/?ref_=nv_sr_1
The link doesn't confirm much beyond release date and cast, but, there are three names missing that will make this less fun for me:
1) Charlie Hunnam
2) Charlie Day
3) Idris Elba
Ron Perlman will be back though. And he's a pretty solid pick.
Quote from: MetalDog on November 19, 2016, 11:59:52 AM
Ron Perlman will be back though. And he's a pretty solid pick.
I hope you guys all sat through the Pacific Rim credits...
I would suggest a Godzillaverse thread to accrue all related movie news (since Kong: Skull Island takes place in the Monarchverse, for want of a better name, setting up GvsKong later) -- but despite rumors and a shared production crew, Pacific Rim: Maelstrom doesn't sound like it'll be a reboot but a sequel, and so not set in the Monarch continuity after all.
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/pacific-rim/253193/pacific-rim-2-first-photos
Specifically, the heroic Stormtrooper rebel from The Force Awakens will be playing the son of Alba's character Stacker Pentacost. I don't know how that could even possibly segue into being part of the Monarch continuity. :'(
I'm still rooting for the film, and I'm sure I'll see it, but I'm necessarily less excited than if they were going to reboot it into G2014's continuity.
I'm surprised that PETA hasn't tried to get people to boycott the movie. Giant apes are very rare !
Anyone seen this? The reviews have been decent. Sounds like a good "popcorn" flick.
I'll be seeing it this weekend if possible -- doesn't open here in the states until then.
Quote from: JasonPratt on March 15, 2017, 08:44:06 AM
I'll be seeing it this weekend if possible -- doesn't open here in the states until then.
I thought it opened on the 10th here?
Quote from: mirth on March 15, 2017, 08:37:48 AM
Anyone seen this? The reviews have been decent. Sounds like a good "popcorn" flick.
yes, i have seen it last Saturday
Apocalypse Jurassic Kong -skull island
yes, its a popcorn flick and i felt entertained and was not disappointed about the 20E i had spend on that eve ...incl. the popcorn :)
it has some homage shots (and soundtrack) to Apocalypse Now, sometimes that's was a little overdone and also lesser so to Jurassic Park movies (probably JP3)
Kong character himself does not much develop a romantic relationship to the female protagonist as it was a mayor theme in the older Kong movies.
its a good monster movie and a nice 2h escape from the always burdening reallife.
^thanks Mike.
I got $20 on Kong. Any takers?
Not me. I doubt that in the end those armless Sleestak critters will stand a chance.
BTW, that is one Big-assed Kong. He's already supersized enough for a Godzilla V. Kong sequel.
Quote from: Staggerwing on March 15, 2017, 06:36:51 PM
BTW, that is one Big-assed Kong. He's already supersized enough for a Godzilla V. Kong sequel.
They needed to supersize him to take on Sam Jackson.
I'm waiting for him to say, "I'm tired of these MF monsters on this MF island"!
I'm here to talk to you about the KAIJU AVENGER INITIATIVE! :D :D :D :smitten:
(But should have had one of the jaeger pilots with him instead of Nova Corps.)
Quote from: JasonPratt on July 18, 2017, 12:35:41 PM
(But should have had one of the jaeger pilots with him instead of Nova Corps.)
Pacific Rim isn't MCU. Nick Fury wouldn't know any Jaeger pilots.
No, but they're riffing on Jackson and Hiddleston being in the Avengers films, combined with Kaijuverse universe building. Supposedly, Pacific Rim will be incorporated into this eventually. (No doubt in a reboot or something; I gather PacRim2 isn't it yet.)
Hasn't happened yet, so the their is no canonical link between Pacific Rim and Kong. It's not even definite that Pacific Rim will be part of Legendary's Monsterverse.
Bottom line, the Jaeger program wouldn't exist in a Nick Fury/Kong crossover.
Nick Fury doesn't know any Monsterverse Kaiju either. (Except technically for Godzilla I guess. But not in the MCU.)
Kong/Avengers comparisons for an imaginary crossover that fans would want == funny.
Pacific Rim being in the Kaijuverse == what the fans want, therefore... not funny, so shouldn't be there?
Humor. It is a difficult concept. ::)
Pac Rim 2 won't be a full reboot. John Boyega will be playing the son of Stacker Pentecost (one of the greatest movie names of all time).
http://screenrant.com/tag/pacific-rim-2/ (http://screenrant.com/tag/pacific-rim-2/)
Quote from: JasonPratt on July 18, 2017, 01:11:43 PM
Humor. It is a difficult concept. ::)
It is not logical.
WHO'S BEEN HOLDING UP THE DAMN ELEVATOR?!
You skipped a line, "We learn by doing".
Quote from: mirth on July 18, 2017, 01:12:06 PM
Pac Rim 2 won't be a full reboot. John Boyega will be playing the son of Stacker Pentecost (one of the greatest movie names of all time).
http://screenrant.com/tag/pacific-rim-2/ (http://screenrant.com/tag/pacific-rim-2/)
Yeah, I know, they aren't integrating it yet. Why, Lord knows. Admittedly the first film would never really fit, but was a sequel to that very closed-off
story so demanded by fans? I'm pretty sure we would have been happy with similarly designed giant robots punching kaiju in the face to music like from Iron Man 1 + Toho kaijuverse.
Oh well. I guess the puny humans shouldn't level up so fast anyway.
Agreed also on the name.
Quote from: mirth on July 18, 2017, 12:46:00 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on July 18, 2017, 12:35:41 PM
(But should have had one of the jaeger pilots with him instead of Nova Corps.)
Pacific Rim isn't MCU. Nick Fury wouldn't know any Jaeger pilots.
Of course it's not MCU. It's Dark Universe.
Quote from: BanzaiCat on July 18, 2017, 02:56:25 PM
Quote from: mirth on July 18, 2017, 12:46:00 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on July 18, 2017, 12:35:41 PM
(But should have had one of the jaeger pilots with him instead of Nova Corps.)
Pacific Rim isn't MCU. Nick Fury wouldn't know any Jaeger pilots.
Of course it's not MCU. It's Dark Universe.
Expanded Universe
Ultimate Megaverse
Okay, guise, come on, take this seriously.
I saw a pizza box in one of the scenes, which is a trick you are no doubt aware of with this director. He likes to hint at cross-overs from what SEEM to be the same universe, but aren't. They're actually rather poignant and brilliant representations of other movie universes (sorta like when you saw the alien skulls near the end of Predator 2, but much, much subtler). The hint in that case was Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which did a cross-over with the Transformers. The TMNT did cross-overs with Batman. Transformers were a Marvel property (comic-wise) back in the 80s. Dark Universe is an offshoot from the third cousin of the second grip from the original Creature From the Dark Lagoon, but it has ties to the TMNT because of Eastman and Laird's controlling interest in the studio that originally made those horror films.
So...yeah, Dark Universe. Mummy vs Ninja Turtles vs Transformers coming soon.
Check out Group 10
http://www.poobala.com/crossoverlist.html
http://www.poobala.com/lasvegasandknight.html
QuotePart of the plot for the movie had the Knight Rider team hitting Vegas. In particular the action centered on the fictional Montecito Casino and Hotel. This is where things go weird. You see, in 2008 NBC had another show on called Las Vegas which told the stories of the staff of the Montecito. As a result any time characters on any NBC TV show would go to Vegas, they always seemed to end up at the Montecito. It started out with some full on crossovers with Crossing Jordan but then soon the Montecito just kept popping up on all sorts of shows without there being any full on event going on. No characters from one show meeting characters from Las Vegas, just the hotel. At first I thought it might be some sly way to promote the Las Vegas series. But it just kept happening so often that, at this point, I think NBC just wanted to get its money's worth out of those huge casino sets. Regardless of why they did it, the Montecito has now become this huge hub connecting the realities of a ton of shows. Now included among those shows, all the Knight Rider TV shows and movies.
So Knight Rider links into Las Vegas, why is that so bad? Well first, lets start slow. There is one thing that needs mentioning with any Las Vegas crossover. Action star Jean-Claude Van Damme did a guest spot on Las Vegas playing himself. In a shocking turn of events, they killed him off! So in the world of Las Vegas Van Damme is Van Dead. That means any time a new show links to Las Vegas, like a virus, Jean-Claude Van Damme ends up dead in that show's continuity as well plus in the continuities of any shows connecting to THAT show. It's just horrible. So this crossover means Van Damme is dead in the world on Knight Rider. But here's some irony. In the Knight Rider spin off Team Knight Rider, the original driver of KITT, Michael Knight, was believed to be dead. This new film featured David Hasselhoff returning as Michael Knight. So it's sort of a trade off: Van Damme dies but like a phoenix rising from the ashes, Hasselhoff lives again. It also makes the movie a crossover of Las vegas AND the new and old Knight Rider shows.
Still haven't gotten to the real wrongness though. Las Vegas links to Knight Rider. Fine. Well, Knight Rider links up with the aforementioned Team Knight Rider. Here is where things go horribly wrong. Team Knight Rider has a crossover connection to the Star Trek Universe! That's right. Because of this weird Knight Rider movie and because NBC is hell bent on getting their money's worth out of those Montecito sets... Jean-Claude Van Damme is DEAD in the Star Trek universe! Nooooo!!!! KHAAAAAN!!!! (Or should that be HASSELHOFF!!!!!) In the words on Andy Warhol (sort of) in the future every Jean-Claude Van Damme will be dead for 15 minutes.
Seriously though, this makes things very weird. Because of a Knight Rider TV movie, all of Star Trek now coexists in the same world with some really unexpected shows. It was weird enough when it was linked up with Knight Rider for God's sake but now... Well, who would ever have thought that classic Trek existed in the same world as Bewitched? Well it does now. Bewitched, Medium, Knight Rider, Star Trek and Heroes are all now part of the same world. Extra weird because I know the folks on Heroes are huge Trek fans and, right now, I'm sure THEY aren't aware that their show is now part of the Tre universe. Right now I am living for the possibility of someone pointing Heroes honcho Tim Kring to this page and him going, "Get the &#^# out of here! Really?!?!"
But seriously, for the sake of Jean-Claude Van Dammes everywhere, people, crossover with Las Vegas carefully. There are some big shared realities out there. One wrong crossover that links Las Vegas to one of those huge groupings and Van Damme could be dead on, like 50 shows instantaneously.
^absolutely brilliant!
I know this sounds obvious, but...you guys have waaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands. And useless s*it clogging up your brains.
Quote from: MetalDog on July 18, 2017, 09:05:54 PM
I know this sounds obvious, but...you guys have waaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands. And useless s*it clogging up your brains.
I didn't write it; I just cut & pasted it
At least nobody's said 'dongle' yet. Oh, wait. I just did.
Quote from: bayonetbrant on July 18, 2017, 09:35:28 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on July 18, 2017, 09:05:54 PM
I know this sounds obvious, but...you guys have waaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands. And useless s*it clogging up your brains.
I didn't write it; I just cut & pasted it
You read it. And that requires time. And possible retention.
Quote from: Sir Slash on July 18, 2017, 09:44:24 PM
At least nobody's said 'dongle' yet. Oh, wait. I just did.
Kongle?
Kongle hands are not safe. I saw it in the video. :hide:
Quote from: MetalDog on July 18, 2017, 09:05:54 PM
I know this sounds obvious, but...you guys have waaaaaaaaaay too much time on your hands. And useless s*it clogging up your brains.
This from the guy spending countless hours putting together song brackets and then bickering with Brant about said brackets.
Rented this on Amazon. I enjoyed it. great cast of characters and they made Kong the badass he needs to be. Pretty decent CGI -- light plot but entertaining.
I watched this yesterday on the plane coming back from Germany. Campy, light plot, and not a bad way to spend two hours on a long flight. The creatures on the island were imaginative and pretty neat.
I actually enjoyed this movie. What a shocker!
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Now I gotta see it.
My son badgered me into buying this. I only caught parts of it, but it seemed like good fun. Certainly better than Godzilla.
My son watched it three times over the weekend, so it has an 8 year boy's seal of approval.
There was also a nice little nod to Sam Jackson's role in Jurassic Park.
^^ "Hold onto your butts!"
That made me chuckle.
He doesn't have a great track record in 'monster' movies. Jurassic Park, Deep Blue Sea, Kong...dead, dead, dead.
Quote from: mirth on August 14, 2017, 05:02:32 PM
He doesn't have a great track record in 'monster' movies. Jurassic Park, Deep Blue Sea, Kong...dead, dead, dead.
Hey now! Spoilers! :tickedoff:
Sorry. Forgot you hadn't seen Deep Blue Sea.
That's the one with Laura Dern and the dinosaurs, right?
Yes and Brundlefly.
Quote from: mirth on August 14, 2017, 07:58:41 PM
Yes and Brundlefly.
Geena Davis is in it too? Now I really have to see it. She was great in 'Riding in cars with boys'.
I'd rather watch Deep Rising again. Treat Williams is excellent in that movie.
Me too. Loved that movie.
I've got it cued up to turn on later this morning. Already seen it many times but it's one of those comfort background films.
Harrison Ford turned down the role that Treat played in that flick. I can't imagine Ford doing that role, though. I mean, I could, but Treat fits it better I think.
Deep Rising is what I get every time I eat Mexican. ::)
Quote from: Sir Slash on August 15, 2017, 11:31:56 AM
Deep Rising is what I get every time I eat Mexican. ::)
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Meanwhile, back on topic ::)
The director of the film has launched a bit of a backlash war against Cinema Sins for their EWW video.
Uh, not sure where the director's Twitter account is, but I gather there are links in the comments somewhere.
Now, granted, a significant number of Jeremy's "sins" are meant to be humorously unfair -- he even pokes fun at himself sometimes about this -- but they're unfair
for sake of humor, not as actual criticism. This gets fuzzy, though, when he combines those with legitimate critiques of the plot and production of a film. And as those of us who've seen it know, there are A TON of such problems in the film. Which isn't to say it isn't enjoyable; I myself like it a
lot more than the G14 film, and I appreciate that the director (and presumably the producers) set out to address problems from the first film. But having an aggressively stupid plot combined with convenient production design goofs, especially where those goofs seem very intentional in order to make the 'story' seem to work better, were among the critiques -- and K:SI still has those. Lots of them. I counted no less than four or five major ones that Jeremy either didn't bother to include or didn't notice or only mentioned offhand. Maybe he was being charitable? (Not likely; he didn't go far giving credit to the creature action, not as much as he occasionally did for G14 which features much less of it. Kong has some genuinely badass moments, which I guess Jeremy just wasn't feeling.)
Anyway. Have fun with EWW Kong: Skull Island. O:-)