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Of course you know, this would mean TWELVE senators from California.
And 5 new Democrat Governors. :P
Quote from: besilarius on July 25, 2016, 07:40:30 PM
Of course you know, this would mean TWELVE senators from California.
Yeah you might think that.
But if you don't know California, then you don't know that you're going to get right-wing conservatives from North, Central, and South.
Right now, it's LA and the Bay Area that overwhelm the rest of the state in statewide races like governor/senator.
Central California on that map is farms, cattle, and oil. It's more Texas than it is Baywatch. The rich folk in Northern California tend to be more pro-business conservative than their hippie brethren on the south side of the bay, And wine country has always been conservative (plus there's Travis AFB there). Southern California - as drawn on the map, not as discussed in pop culture - has about 14 major military bases, and they tend to lean right.
SF/LA dominate statewide politics by sheer dint of numbers. Segregate those two out into other states and you've got a very different landscape out there. Jefferson will still be kind of granola-hippy, but might only have 1-2 house seats at most, since no one lives out there. Central California, with Stockton, Bakersfield, Fresno, and Modesto has some serious population to draw on, and it's all old-school ag families going back 5-7 generations on the same farms.
Yeah, the idea of dividing Texas into five states has been around as well, back since Texas was first admitted to the Union. It's fanciful and makes for fun conversation, but I don't see either happening anytime soon.
Same thing with talk of Texas seceding from the Union. I doubt Cali will split up but will be very impressed if they do vote for it.
Heavens No! Can you imagine the people in San Francisco taxing themselves to pay for their own Social Utopia? The Horror!
What would really be fun under that breakup are the cross-border water wars.
When West CA has no water b/c Central CA keeps it all for their farms, and when the Silicon Valley do-gooders try to limit water coming out of rivers they no longer control because they prefer taking care of fish over take care of crops, and they can't b/c the water actually belongs to other people, it'll get really fun.
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Central Cali is already gearing up to hoard the water...
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LA Will have the Breast supply... I mean best supply, of silicone. No, I do mean Breast supply. ^-^ Getting to it could be a 'Tough Titty' though.
Quote from: Steelgrave on July 26, 2016, 07:39:23 AM
Yeah, the idea of dividing Texas into five states has been around as well, back since Texas was first admitted to the Union. It's fanciful and makes for fun conversation, but I don't see either happening anytime soon.
Unlike California, when the Republic of Texas was admitted into the United States the treaty gave Texas the power to divide into smaller States. But since the Supreme Court no longer follows the law, this may not still be possible.
Quote from: airboy on July 26, 2016, 02:57:10 PM
Quote from: Steelgrave on July 26, 2016, 07:39:23 AM
Yeah, the idea of dividing Texas into five states has been around as well, back since Texas was first admitted to the Union. It's fanciful and makes for fun conversation, but I don't see either happening anytime soon.
Unlike California, when the Republic of Texas was admitted into the United States the treaty gave Texas the power to divide into smaller States. But since the Supreme Court no longer follows the law, this may not still be possible.
It comes up in Texas every so often, I know. I think it's more likely Texas annexes Oklahoma than splits into five states 8)
No one wants to annex Oklahoma.
Quote from: mirth on July 26, 2016, 05:53:54 PM
No one wants to annex Oklahoma.
Even after a few too many beers, and Oklahoma all dolled up, Saturday Night like?
Quote from: Staggerwing on July 26, 2016, 06:05:49 PM
Quote from: mirth on July 26, 2016, 05:53:54 PM
No one wants to annex Oklahoma.
Even after a few too many beers, and Oklahoma all dolled up, Saturday Night like?
There's not enough beer to make want Oklahoma.
It could work. They're all related to each other right now aren't they? Okla-as, nice ring to it.
Not even the Indians wanted Oklahoma.
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Quote from: mirth on July 26, 2016, 06:07:09 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on July 26, 2016, 06:05:49 PM
Quote from: mirth on July 26, 2016, 05:53:54 PM
No one wants to annex Oklahoma.
Even after a few too many beers, and Oklahoma all dolled up, Saturday Night like?
There's not enough beer to make want Oklahoma.
Before I moved back to OKC for good, I used to refer to Oklahoma as "the part Texas didn't want" since Texas ceded most of the land to the USA when becoming a state. Not much has changed in my opinion, but the people here are by far decent folks. I do greatly miss Phoenix and the general lack of clothing the hot weather encouraged 8)
I was up there in March, south of OKC. Other than being cold as a witch's tit (I was shooting video of techs doing repairs on our cooling towers, for training), everyone was great and the trip was smooth. If I had only had time for some gaming I would have dropped you a line, Steelie.
The OKC airport, though, blew me away. It's SO small (how small is it?) It's SO small that if you dropped a Kleenex, the place would have wall-to-wall carpeting.
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on July 26, 2016, 08:01:43 PM
I was up there in March, south of OKC. Other than being cold as a witch's tit (I was shooting video of techs doing repairs on our cooling towers, for training), everyone was great and the trip was smooth. If I had only had time for some gaming I would have dropped you a line, Steelie.
The OKC airport, though, blew me away. It's SO small (how small is it?) It's SO small that if you dropped a Kleenex, the place would have wall-to-wall carpeting.
Yeah, flying from Phoenix to OKC or Dallas to OKC you feel like you've stepped off into a little country airfield somewhere when you get here. Hell, you leave the airport and drive past oil wells pumping and cow's doing whatever cows do. Very quaint.
Quote from: Steelgrave on July 26, 2016, 07:59:18 PMBefore I moved back to OKC for good, I used to refer to Oklahoma as "the part Texas didn't want" since Texas ceded most of the land to the USA when becoming a state. Not much has changed in my opinion, but the people here are by far decent folks.
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on July 26, 2016, 08:01:43 PMThe OKC airport, though, blew me away. It's SO small (how small is it?) It's SO small that if you dropped a Kleenex, the place would have wall-to-wall carpeting.
You guys need a trip to Lawton for some perspective.
Quote from: Steelgrave on July 26, 2016, 07:59:18 PM
Before I moved back to OKC for good, I used to refer to Oklahoma as "the part Texas didn't want" since Texas ceded most of the land to the USA when becoming a state. Not much has changed in my opinion, but the people here are by far decent folks.
Ohio and Michigan went to war over who got Toledo. Ohio lost and got stuck with it. Michigan got the UP. The rest of Ohio has been trying to get rid of Toledo since then. The way the people up there act, they seem like they'd rather be part of Toledo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War
Wow. I never heard that OJ. Thanks for the post.
Holy Toledo.
Quote from: bayonetbrant on July 26, 2016, 08:37:28 PM
Quote from: Steelgrave on July 26, 2016, 07:59:18 PMBefore I moved back to OKC for good, I used to refer to Oklahoma as "the part Texas didn't want" since Texas ceded most of the land to the USA when becoming a state. Not much has changed in my opinion, but the people here are by far decent folks.
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on July 26, 2016, 08:01:43 PMThe OKC airport, though, blew me away. It's SO small (how small is it?) It's SO small that if you dropped a Kleenex, the place would have wall-to-wall carpeting.
You guys need a trip to Lawton for some perspective.
The wife almost accepted a job in Lawton. Happy to have dodged that bullet!!!
Back when I worked the ramp for United I took a trip to Pennsylvania to visit my dad and family. The DuBois "airport" is pretty much a one-room operation with two people employed there (that I saw, anyway). The two of them checked people and luggage in, brought the plane in and parked it, unloaded both passengers and baggage/mail, loaded it up again, and saw it off. Even all of that was a hell of a lot less work than what we did at IAH.
Then again they only had 2-4 flights a day I think, if that much. So they probably were only part time and had other jobs, I imagine.
See, threads like this are why I love this forum. :smitten: O:-)