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Digital Gaming => Computer Gaming => Topic started by: acctingman on October 24, 2016, 11:21:52 AM

Title: Hearts of Iron 4....part deux...or "Duh!!" in my case
Post by: acctingman on October 24, 2016, 11:21:52 AM
To any HoI4 people out there who have played the game with mods....specifically the Black Ice mod.

Does it change the game at all? Did it make it more playable? Did it make you want to rage quit less? (I rage quit the game after 30 hours...more out of not knowing what I was doing, really  :tickedoff:)
Title: Re: Hearts of Iron 4....part deux...or "Duh!!" in my case
Post by: bobarossa on October 24, 2016, 12:20:02 PM
If it's anything like the Black Ice mod for HOI3, it would make your head explode.  And by that I mean that it added a tremendous amount of depth to HOI3 so I expect they are taking the same approach to HOI4.
Title: Re: Hearts of Iron 4....part deux...or "Duh!!" in my case
Post by: sandman2575 on October 24, 2016, 12:51:24 PM
Echoing Bobarossa's assessment -- BlackIce is definitely not for the fainthearted Hearts of Iron player (...see what I did there?  ;) )  There's plenty to get to grips with in vanilla HOI4, and plenty to enjoy. I think of BlackIce as "the next step up" for players who have mastered (and are bored by) vanilla. You may get there eventually, but by no means *start* with BlackIce!

I'm of two minds about BlackIce -- on the one hand, I very much appreciated the amount of historical detail the modders added to HOI3 -- it was certainly a much deeper and challenging experience than vanilla HOI3 -- AI was considerably better. On the other hand, I think the BlackIce designers tend to overload the mod -- more isn't always better. I wish they would dial back the ambition somewhat -- the 'everything plus the kitchen sink' philosophy isn't always a strength.

Title: Re: Hearts of Iron 4....part deux...or "Duh!!" in my case
Post by: OJsDad on October 24, 2016, 01:05:00 PM
Quote from: sandman2575 on October 24, 2016, 12:51:24 PM
I wish they would dial back the ambition somewhat -- the 'everything plus the kitchen sink' philosophy isn't always a strength.

This is especially true when the games interface wasn't designed to handle the kitchen sink. 
Title: Re: Hearts of Iron 4....part deux...or "Duh!!" in my case
Post by: sandman2575 on October 24, 2016, 01:31:41 PM
Yeah I agree. Just look at what BI does to HOI4's tech-trees. At some point it does threaten to become unmanageable information overload.
Title: Re: Hearts of Iron 4....part deux...or "Duh!!" in my case
Post by: acctingman on October 24, 2016, 01:53:36 PM
Thank you guys.

Guess HoI4 stays deleted in my Steam Library. I do take some comfort that I did try and get 30 hours of play out of it, well....and a 150/90 BP  :tickedoff:
Title: Re: Hearts of Iron 4....part deux...or "Duh!!" in my case
Post by: Swatter on October 24, 2016, 04:25:13 PM
What is frustrating about the game?
Title: Re: Hearts of Iron 4....part deux...or "Duh!!" in my case
Post by: acctingman on October 24, 2016, 04:54:43 PM
Quote from: Swatter on October 24, 2016, 04:25:13 PM
What is frustrating about the game?

It's more me than the game. Lack of patience and I found the job to be more work than fun.

I'm a gamer who needs to stick to Battle Academy type of games   :'(
Title: Re: Hearts of Iron 4....part deux...or "Duh!!" in my case
Post by: Swatter on October 24, 2016, 10:48:46 PM
Nothing wrong with that. If your not having fun, your doing it wrong ;-)