My best friend runs a D&D group (that I used to be a part of, but for some reason, I don't like pnp D&D).
After seeing Rogue One the suppressed desire to run a SW campaign cannot be contained! However, I know nothing about the various rulebooks out there AND I have zero experienced running any kind of game.
So, to anyone that has GM'd or played in a group....love to hear your comments or suggestions of which you prefer?
Thanks
We play the fantasy flight Star Wars RPG. It is a lot of fun but uses a different dice mechanic than traditional RPGs. Once you get over that learning curve the game system really opens up. Any of the beginners boxes are a great introduction and give you most importantly a set of the dice.
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I was thinking you'd respond Bison! :notworthy:
I'm going to pick up the beginner box and go through them. I've heard the old WEG d6 book(s) are too bad either. If I can find them on the cheap I might pick them up too.
Thanks!
I second his suggestion.
Any Beginner Box for FFG's Star Wars RPG is great at teaching all the basics and providing the materials to take those first steps.
If you end up enjoying that and want more then you can later pick up one, or more, of the core Hardback books. They use the exact same system, but add more customization options, more GM stuff, and setting fluff. A lot more of everything.
There are three different core manuals, each based on what type of campaign you want to run. Smuggler/Merc, Rebellion, or Force sensitives. You only need one.
Can also buy extra sets of the special Star Wars dice if you need more in the future. I think many recommend having at least two sets, possibly more depending on how much you wanna pass around & share.
I actually picked up a few lots of common & uncommon minis from the old Star Wars Miniatures game for use with it. They're pre-painted so didn't have to spend huge amounts of painting time to have passable looking minis to use with it. The game's Zone mechanics simplifies ranges so you don't need to measure anything, so it doesn't change the RPG style too much with a bunch of anal-retentive exactness. Which is great for an RPG in my opinion.
Quote from: acctingman on December 20, 2016, 06:54:58 PM
LOL
I was thinking you'd respond Bison! :notworthy:
I'm going to pick up the beginner box and go through them. I've heard the old WEG d6 book(s) are too bad either. If I can find them on the cheap I might pick them up too.
Thanks!
I have a thing for RPGs. :)
The WEG d6 system is good but the books can be expensive if you can find them.
Thanks Nefaro
Well you only need one if you like the class/races in the book. I eventually picked up all three, because it opened up character options. The one downside is there is a bunch of material that is in all three books. We also picked up the setting books and a couple of the class specific books. Good game, but your wallet will cry mercy if you plan on being a completist.
Quote from: Bison on December 20, 2016, 07:39:06 PM
Well you only need one if you like the class/races in the book. I eventually picked up all three, because it opened up character options. The one downside is there is a bunch of material that is in all three books. We also picked up the setting books and a couple of the class specific books.
I admit, I picked up two of the core books, a GM screen, and an extra dice pack beyond what I had in the starter intro set.
Haven't grabbed any sourcebooks yet. Those are usually where the cost-to-page ratio gets pretty painful. So I'm often hesitant, despite those often being quite dense with extra info.
QuoteGood game, but your wallet will cry mercy if you plan on being a completist.
It's that way with any FFG line. But they're far from the only company doing so, especially regarding RPGs. I was pretty happy with how much was in the core books, and the artwork is quite nice too. :notworthy:
I've also been getting the completionist itch with
The One Ring lately. Trying to keep my splat-book purchases to a minimum, but those damn books are beautiful works of art, alone. Damn yous Cubicle 7! Damn yous to heyllll!
I have the following WEG d6 books. Make me an offer if you're interested.
Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game rule book (1st ed) 122 pg.
Star Wars Sourcebook (1st ed) 142 pg.
Star Wars Imperial Sourcebook (1st ed) 143 pg.
Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game (2nd ed) 167 pg
Star Wars Rules Companion (1st ed)
Star Wars Campaign Pack and GM Screen (1st ed)
Star Wars GM screen (2nd ed)
Star Wars adventure modules:
-Death in the Undercity
-Otherspace
-Otherspace II: Invasion
-Tatooine Manhunt
-Riders of the Maelstrom
-Strike Force: Shantipole
-Battle for the Golden Sun
-Black Ice
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on December 20, 2016, 07:57:37 PM
I have the following WEG d6 books. Make me an offer if you're interested.
Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game rule book (1st ed) 122 pg.
Star Wars Sourcebook (1st ed) 142 pg.
Star Wars Imperial Sourcebook (1st ed) 143 pg.
Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game (2nd ed) 167 pg
Star Wars Rules Companion (1st ed)
Star Wars Campaign Pack and GM Screen (1st ed)
Star Wars GM screen (2nd ed)
Star Wars adventure modules:
-Death in the Undercity
-Otherspace
-Otherspace II: Invasion
-Tatooine Manhunt
-Riders of the Maelstrom
-Strike Force: Shantipole
-Battle for the Golden Sun
-Black Ice
Thank you SDR!
After some researching I'm going with the newer Fantasy Flight game!
While I enjoy the idea of role-playing in the Star Wars universe, it has one shortcoming for me. A general lack of the horror theme.
It's so prevalent in many RPG worlds, and is a treasure trove of ideas for the GM to use in many of them.
While a little could be brutally shoehorned into Star Wars, with excuses claiming "the Dark Side", it was just never a thing in the movies. Even the nasty alien encounters seemed more like a wildlife show featuring furry or large animal predators than something like Aliens.
So your GM toolbox is smaller regarding the bad guys. Although some of it could be mitigated with killer droid storyline seeds or 'experimental' humanoid testing gone wrong I suppose.
Quote from: Nefaro on December 21, 2016, 02:30:27 PM
While I enjoy the idea of role-playing in the Star Wars universe, it has one shortcoming for me. A general lack of the horror theme.
It's so prevalent in many RPG worlds, and is a treasure trove of ideas for the GM to use in many of them.
While a little could be brutally shoehorned into Star Wars, with excuses claiming "the Dark Side", it was just never a thing in the movies. Even the nasty alien encounters seemed more like a wildlife show featuring furry or large animal predators than something like Aliens.
So your GM toolbox is smaller regarding the bad guys. Although some of it could be mitigated with killer droid storyline seeds or 'experimental' humanoid testing gone wrong I suppose.
Yea, I agree. In D&D there are creatures/encounters that made you pee yourself. For me, it was Beholders....they messed me up inside :uglystupid2:
With Star Wars, I can see that element missing. Of course, walking down a Mos Eisley side street and running into Darth Vader might cause a little pee to come out :bd:
It's a different sort of tension. Having a bounty placed on a player by a hutt or being accused of being a rebel spy. Create a few bounty hunters that will strike fear into the players when they try and visit a spaceport or cantina. The real problem is if you are playing with Star Wars lore purists. That will curtail creativity faster than anything.
Quote from: Bison on December 21, 2016, 04:00:37 PM
The real problem is if you are playing with Star Wars lore purists. That will curtail creativity faster than anything.
That's when you, as GM, have the Death Star pop out of hyperspace and wax the planet they're on. Then hand them a fresh stack of character sheets.
Somewhere out there is something titled Star Wars: Revised, Expanded and Updated that is a fan service rpg based off the WEG version that is pretty damn well self-complete. Probably waaaayyy illegal in terms of IP usage and all of that, so no linky from me, but its worth a looksie.
And yes, I know you said you're going with FFG's offering. I'm just putting up a cheaper alternative.
I always thought 1st edition of WEG's take on Star Wars was the best in terms of "simple, and fun," but I've fond memories of it so perhaps I'm biased.
Quote from: Dammit Carl! on December 21, 2016, 04:31:00 PM
I always thought 1st edition of WEG's take on Star Wars was the best in terms of "simple, and fun," but I've fond memories of it so perhaps I'm biased.
+1 It was a solid game.
http://www.glixel.com/news/how-a-dd-style-rpg-brought-star-wars-back-from-the-dead-w457301
Quote from: bayonetbrant on December 21, 2016, 08:54:37 PM
http://www.glixel.com/news/how-a-dd-style-rpg-brought-star-wars-back-from-the-dead-w457301
cool article.
Best part about WEG's stuff was just how good it was - the two books I loved the most were "Pirates and Privateers," and the "Imperial Sourcebook." The section in the Imperial Sourcebook where it showed a to scale silhouette of the Super Star Destroyer vs everything else (it took multiple pages to show the SSD) stands out in my mind.
Quote from: Bison on December 21, 2016, 04:00:37 PM
It's a different sort of tension. Having a bounty placed on a player by a hutt or being accused of being a rebel spy. Create a few bounty hunters that will strike fear into the players when they try and visit a spaceport or cantina. The real problem is if you are playing with Star Wars lore purists. That will curtail creativity faster than anything.
Well.. I mean that you can send bounty hunters, and other such encounters, after players in most RPGs.
Plus have some undead or demonic run-ins, amongst other things.
The Star Wars universe is more limited in such craziness, beyond the lower key
Space Sorcery Force thing. I appreciate it for what it is, just have to come to terms with far more situations being humanoid-centric in that setting. I've also been exploring RPG'ing in Middle Earth's low-magic "low fantasy" setting. But it still has lots of horror elements available, in comparison.
Guess I'm just saying that Star Wars is a bit of an oddball because it doesn't have what is normally a very common theme in most RPGs. Doesn't mean it sucks though.
I'd rather RP in a Middle-Earth setting than your typical D&D lore setting. A VERY close second in my all time favorite fantasy/sci-fi setting is ME O0
Quote from: acctingman on December 22, 2016, 11:59:44 AM
I'd rather RP in a Middle-Earth setting than your typical D&D lore setting. A VERY close second in my all time favorite fantasy/sci-fi setting is ME O0
Custom made for RPG'ing in Middle Earth, and it shows in the mechanics:
http://cubicle7.co.uk/our-games/the-one-ring/
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There was a PDF 'Bundle Of Holding' deal a short time ago. That sale is gone, though. S'okay since the hardback is beautiful. Sometimes I just slowly pet it. :dreamer:
The system is pretty easy but has it's own uniqueness. Doesn't require custom dice, although they have some stylized ones if you want to MEarth up your dice look.
I'll make a separate thread about more details, if you need. There are numerous reviews out there, most of which praise it (which is what pushed me off the fence to get it on Amazon).
I came across PDFs of all the WEG stuff. Thinking it would be fun to do with the kids.
The Star Wars Force & Destiny Core book is Half Off at CSI right now. $30! :o
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/212424
Along with the Beginner Set and a couple splat books for SW Rebellion rpg.
Picked this collection up on Ebay for $150. Lots of reading ahead. O0
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wow - not a bad deal :)
Decent haul.
Been debating picking up the Wound and Vehicle Critical decks sometime. Because less time looking up wound effects. But those things add up pretty quick. Before you know it, you have enough in your shopping cart to equal all new hardbacks. :o
I've been a little concerned with how the spines on some of the FFG hardbacks will hold up over time. Their Star Wars series seems to be in the best condition. But their somewhat older 40k hardbacks don't look so reliable.
new sourcebooks coming soon
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/9/25/a-galaxy-on-fire/
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/9/22/unlimited-power/