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Title: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Cyrano on December 27, 2016, 05:06:25 PM
Announced yesterday on FB:

NWS Store news; The latest store updates and changes for 2017,

First the board games.. due to changing how I do my ordering, changes in suppliers, reducing my warehouse space, and to help prioritize shipping efficiency and time frames vs selection some publishers will be discontinued.. DVG, GMT and TPS. All preorders, coming soon, and pending orders already in my system will be filled as soon as possible. Publishers that will remain on my store are MMP, Compass, ATO, Legion Wargames, PSC, and BFP. Note, there is some remaining stock of DVG titles at discounted prices on my store so get them while you can as once they are gone they will not be restocked. I also have TPS Arminius at a discounted price in the specials section of my store.

Second, the wargaming miniatures.. I am working hard this coming year to improve shipping time frames - which are already getting better for WG barring any inventory shortages on their end, improve stock levels, and add more product lines. I also now have a 2nd US supply source for miniatures products. I recently added Team Yankee and will be adding more shelf space for stocking 4G and Sarrisa terrain and buildings. A Gates of Antares section is now my store and I will be adding more Warlord Games, and possibly other publisher, product lines very soon!

This is the updated direction for my store operations for 2017. If there are any questions please let me know. As always thank you for the support of my store. Take care friends and please have a safe and happy holiday season!


Spoke not so long ago to them about some of the particular headaches of dealing with DVG's KS model (some of which affected my own purchase).

I have zero inside knowledge, but, as I commented in the year end thread, the industry is going to have to figure out the proper relationship between P500/KS and the end retailer, whether it be on-line or brick-and-mortar.  Time was, you could wander into your FLGS, or hobby store, or even department store, and pick up good hobby game years after its release.  Those days seem to be vanishing and we're left with the secondary market.

Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Barthheart on December 27, 2016, 05:29:32 PM
CRAP!  :'(

Not sure I'll ever be able to get another DVG product except at Origins.... maybe...
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Grim.Reaper on December 27, 2016, 05:32:50 PM
Kind of bummed since just picked up warfighter ww2...if things went well was going to buy the expansions from him since very good prices... oh well
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Barthheart on December 27, 2016, 05:34:02 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 27, 2016, 05:32:50 PM
Kind of bummed since just picked up warfighter ww2...if things went well was going to buy the expansions from him since very good prices... oh well

Ditto, was trying to scrap up the dough for the full monty....  :(
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Grim.Reaper on December 27, 2016, 05:37:07 PM
Just curious is there any other good board game shops located in USA that typically had low prices?
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: panzerde on December 27, 2016, 05:41:07 PM
Quote from: Cyrano on December 27, 2016, 05:06:25 PM
Time was, you could wander into your FLGS, or hobby store, or even department store, and pick up good hobby game years after its release.  Those days seem to be vanishing and we're left with the secondary market.


This has been - at least for wargames - the situation in Indianapolis for at least 20 years. Actually, it's worse than that, since you can't even get current games anywhere here. It may become that way for other games too; Hero's Emporium in Broadripple just shut their doors on the 15th of this month. If there wasn't enough custom to keep a game store open in the "college town" part of Indy, that doesn't bode well.


The aftermarket and ordering directly via KS/P500 is it, here.  I haven't seen a FLGS actually carrying a wargame since I graduated OSU and moved to South Dakota (kinda thin on FLGSs there, too).



Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 27, 2016, 05:57:22 PM
Quote from: panzerde on December 27, 2016, 05:41:07 PMI haven't seen a FLGS actually carrying a wargame since I graduated OSU and moved to South Dakota (kinda thin on FLGSs there, too).

y'all are in the wrong town!

This is just the ASL stuff at The Gamer's Armory over in Cary.  There's another handful of shelves for GMT, MMP, LNLP, Lost Bn, etc...

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13754097_1447697375244263_8541310792981701939_n.jpg?oh=3b912980707429ced5af96e8e827b99a&oe=58E736BC)
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: panzerde on December 27, 2016, 06:03:19 PM
Tells you everything you need to know about Indiana. You can sure buy plenty of Colts merchandise, though.

Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: bbmike on December 27, 2016, 06:26:11 PM
Cary! That's where they used to have the NCAA Div II baseball championship! Until that whole transgender bathroom thing that is.
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: panzerde on December 27, 2016, 06:29:35 PM
Quote from: bbmike on December 27, 2016, 06:26:11 PM
Cary! That's where they used to have the NCAA Div II baseball championship! Until that whole transgender bathroom thing that is.


Is this the time to point out that you're wearing a coconut bra?

Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Cyrano on December 27, 2016, 06:40:26 PM
Doug, Enterprise does first-release GMT, no?

Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: GJK on December 27, 2016, 06:50:08 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on December 27, 2016, 05:57:22 PM
Quote from: panzerde on December 27, 2016, 05:41:07 PMI haven't seen a FLGS actually carrying a wargame since I graduated OSU and moved to South Dakota (kinda thin on FLGSs there, too).

y'all are in the wrong town!

This is just the ASL stuff at The Gamer's Armory over in Cary.  There's another handful of shelves for GMT, MMP, LNLP, Lost Bn, etc...

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13754097_1447697375244263_8541310792981701939_n.jpg?oh=3b912980707429ced5af96e8e827b99a&oe=58E736BC)


I need to go visit Cary....
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Staggerwing on December 27, 2016, 06:52:15 PM
Why? You probably have more ASL stuff than that store does.  :))
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Nefaro on December 27, 2016, 06:52:54 PM
Quote from: Cyrano on December 27, 2016, 05:06:25 PM


I have zero inside knowledge, but, as I commented in the year end thread, the industry is going to have to figure out the proper relationship between P500/KS and the end retailer, whether it be on-line or brick-and-mortar.  Time was, you could wander into your FLGS, or hobby store, or even department store, and pick up good hobby game years after its release.  Those days seem to be vanishing and we're left with the secondary market.


You've heard me complain about many popular titles, across numerous tabletop genres, always being out of print.

These are the days of the Wait List. 

Where minimal print runs are done.. mostly in China.  Where they take a whole month off for holiday and it takes weeks to ship and unload afterward.  Then sells out within a couple months and it's back to the long reprint wait list to begin anew.  #:-)

Did we just get too spoiled in our youth, being able to go to a hobby shop and find nearly any obscure wargame you were looking for? Or have it there within a week?  The hobby has obviously grown quite a bit in recent years, but can the suppliers ever keep up with demand?

I think KS & P500 have enabled the game manufacturers to elude overproduction risks.. at the expense of customer convenience.  Which is a bit unfortunate.
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: ArizonaTank on December 27, 2016, 08:08:41 PM
I used to love NWS...  6 or 7 years ago I bought exclusively from NWS.

But with the changes in their way of doing business over the last several years, I find myself going to them less and less.  This will make them less relevant to me... 

Still like the computer games however!!!

Of course I am happy for NWS if that helps them improve business.

But...Long Live Noble Knight Games!!!
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: panzerde on December 27, 2016, 08:12:35 PM
Quote from: Cyrano on December 27, 2016, 06:40:26 PM
Doug, Enterprise does first-release GMT, no?


He does, but Enterprise is literally Don's house and a rented warehouse. I order from the website and drive over to pick the game up when he's retrieved it to save the shipping cost. He's 100% mailorder.





Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Bison on December 27, 2016, 08:26:40 PM
 :wow:
Quote from: bayonetbrant on December 27, 2016, 05:57:22 PM
Quote from: panzerde on December 27, 2016, 05:41:07 PMI haven't seen a FLGS actually carrying a wargame since I graduated OSU and moved to South Dakota (kinda thin on FLGSs there, too).

y'all are in the wrong town!

This is just the ASL stuff at The Gamer's Armory over in Cary.  There's another handful of shelves for GMT, MMP, LNLP, Lost Bn, etc...

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13754097_1447697375244263_8541310792981701939_n.jpg?oh=3b912980707429ced5af96e8e827b99a&oe=58E736BC)

I've been here and there is a pretty decent pizza joint next door too.
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 27, 2016, 09:21:14 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on December 27, 2016, 05:57:22 PM
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(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi185.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx85%2Fsadsallyshock%2Ftorturechamber.jpg&hash=b757a3732fa8efbe75f8876cf515a7b14bc752b2)
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: OJsDad on December 27, 2016, 09:31:57 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on December 27, 2016, 09:21:14 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on December 27, 2016, 05:57:22 PM
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(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi185.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx85%2Fsadsallyshock%2Ftorturechamber.jpg&hash=b757a3732fa8efbe75f8876cf515a7b14bc752b2)

Brants bedroom?
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 27, 2016, 10:11:29 PM
No, just what I see when I see a wall of ASL products.  :buck2:
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: panzerde on December 27, 2016, 10:16:29 PM
 :DD :DD :DD
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Swatter on December 28, 2016, 12:14:08 AM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on December 27, 2016, 10:11:29 PM
No, just what I see when I see a wall of ASL products.  :buck2:

+1
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 28, 2016, 08:15:17 AM
Quote from: Bison on December 27, 2016, 08:26:40 PMI've been here and there is a pretty decent pizza joint next door too.

They've actually moved since you were there.  They are across the street from their old location, around the side of the shopping center.
They're now next door to a dance studio, but still walking distance to the pizza place.
New location has waaaaaay more space, and wasn't very much more for the rent. 
Only downside is it's harder to see from the street.
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: GJK on December 28, 2016, 08:21:29 AM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on December 27, 2016, 10:11:29 PM
No, just what I see when I see a wall of ASL products.  :buck2:

You have a point.  What I see when I see an ASL-clone game:  ;)

Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: GJK on December 28, 2016, 08:25:02 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on December 27, 2016, 06:52:15 PM
Why? You probably have more ASL stuff than that store does.  :))

No, there's a shit load of TPP there - Rally Point, Schwerpunkt, Le Franc Tireur...

I've got your webstore page open Brant, I've had it bookmarked for some time.  I've been exploring more third party stuff and so I'm thinking that I might put an order together after the new years some time.  Glad this reminded me!
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Rekim on December 28, 2016, 09:11:50 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on December 27, 2016, 05:57:22 PM

This is just the ASL stuff at The Gamer's Armory over in Cary.  There's another handful of shelves for GMT, MMP, LNLP, Lost Bn, etc...

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13754097_1447697375244263_8541310792981701939_n.jpg?oh=3b912980707429ced5af96e8e827b99a&oe=58E736BC)

Probably more ASL gear in that picture than all FLGS in Canada combined  \m/
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: trailrunner on December 28, 2016, 09:15:10 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on December 27, 2016, 05:57:22 PM

y'all are in the wrong town!

This is just the ASL stuff at The Gamer's Armory over in Cary.  There's another handful of shelves for GMT, MMP, LNLP, Lost Bn, etc...


My wife and I are planning on retiring in about seven years.  We're thinking of escaping the DC suburbs, and Raleigh Durham is one area we may move to.  I used to travel down there for business, and one of our neighborhood friends already retired and moved down there.  This spring we're going to take a road trip throughout NC to look at the various cities, starting with our friend's house outside Raleigh.  I've ordered stuff from The Gamer's Armory, but I will try to stop by the store while I'm there.
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 28, 2016, 11:07:53 AM
Give me a shout when you are in town and we can go grab a drink!
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: JudgeDredd on December 28, 2016, 11:23:44 AM
Quote from: OJsDad on December 27, 2016, 09:31:57 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on December 27, 2016, 09:21:14 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on December 27, 2016, 05:57:22 PM
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(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi185.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx85%2Fsadsallyshock%2Ftorturechamber.jpg&hash=b757a3732fa8efbe75f8876cf515a7b14bc752b2)
Brants bedroom?

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on December 27, 2016, 10:11:29 PM
No, just what I see when I see a wall of ASL products.  :buck2:

oh - I thought it was the decent pizza place next door mentioned by Bison
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Grim.Reaper on December 29, 2016, 06:14:47 PM
Darn this thread...made my second board game purchase of Apache Leader....NWS had it only for $36, hard to pass up for a solo player (at least that is what I hear).  I haven't even unboxed Warfighter WWII that I received from Christmas:)   Hoping I don't just buy these and up staring at them like I do a number of the PC games I buy:)
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: JudgeDredd on December 29, 2016, 06:18:53 PM
lol - your gaming addiction is expanding  O0
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Grim.Reaper on December 29, 2016, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on December 29, 2016, 06:18:53 PM
lol - your gaming addiction is expanding  O0

Sad but true:(  Been in kind of a funk with all gaming lately, just nothing completely holding my attention....thought I would try something new.  We'll see how these turn out....I do have my eye on the B-17 Leader coming out next year, but not sure I will ever spend $90 on a board game (darn you NWS for not carrying them anymore).
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Nefaro on December 29, 2016, 08:31:28 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 29, 2016, 06:14:47 PM
Darn this thread...made my second board game purchase of Apache Leader....NWS had it only for $36, hard to pass up for a solo player (at least that is what I hear).  I haven't even unboxed Warfighter WWII that I received from Christmas:)   Hoping I don't just buy these and up staring at them like I do a number of the PC games I buy:)

Mmmm Apache Leader. 


Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: BanzaiCat on December 29, 2016, 08:36:09 PM
Thunderbolt/Apache Leader is great! Both versions.  \m/
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Grim.Reaper on December 29, 2016, 08:55:07 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on December 29, 2016, 08:36:09 PM
Thunderbolt/Apache Leader is great! Both versions.  \m/

I am hoping:)  But I have to wait until late January to actually play it, will be a birthday gift...wife loves it when I make her shopping easy:)
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Staggerwing on December 29, 2016, 08:55:29 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on December 29, 2016, 08:36:09 PM
Thunderbolt/Apache Leader is great! Both versions.  \m/

T/A Leader is one of the 'free' games you can choose to accompany the Kickstarter pledge for Sherman Leader now that it has really taken off:


(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/014/974/552/93c30d6aec93434e6ada3b744041e7bd_original.jpg?w=680&fit=max&v=1482534456&auto=format&q=92&s=b275747746f29162590c06d7565d6dcf)
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Grim.Reaper on December 29, 2016, 09:02:12 PM
Well, too late for me:(  Would have been a nice deal....but mine already shipped today, so no going back.
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Crossroads on December 30, 2016, 02:51:13 AM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on December 27, 2016, 09:21:14 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on December 27, 2016, 05:57:22 PM
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Matrix  :D

Where's that blue pill. And pizza!


Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: DennisS on January 07, 2017, 06:25:01 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 29, 2016, 06:14:47 PM
Darn this thread...made my second board game purchase of Apache Leader....NWS had it only for $36, hard to pass up for a solo player (at least that is what I hear).  I haven't even unboxed Warfighter WWII that I received from Christmas:)   Hoping I don't just buy these and up staring at them like I do a number of the PC games I buy:)

I am comfortable stating that I have more than 95% of ALL solitaire wargames ever made. Apache Leader certainly ranks in my personal top three, along with Carriers! and B-17.
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 07, 2017, 06:26:50 PM
do you count the VPG States of Siege games on that list? :)
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Cyrano on January 13, 2017, 10:34:26 AM
...and based on a new FB post, it would appear a peace has emerged in our time and NWS will again stock DVG.

Huzzah.

Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Nefaro on January 13, 2017, 10:45:51 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on January 07, 2017, 06:26:50 PM
do you count the VPG States of Siege games on that list? :)

From the little I've experienced of them, I get the impression that the cool parts are the varied historical event cards which make them interesting. 

Other than that, it's just rolling dice to keep pushing counters back up a few tracks as they slowly progress to kill you at the terminus.  Like fighting a chutes & ladders death clock.  :P



Quote from: Cyrano on January 13, 2017, 10:34:26 AM
...and based on a new FB post, it would appear a peace has emerged in our time and NWS will again stock DVG.

Huzzah.

That's good.  Although I had a retailer tell me that DVG doesn't give much profit mark-up room compared to most other tabletop game companies.  I wonder if that's part of the reason they're thinly represented on shelves..?
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Cyrano on January 15, 2017, 11:34:21 PM
...and it would now appear that there's peace with both GMT and TPS.

Interesting admission in the official post that the latter has been re-added by popular demand.

Our eensy-weensy niche will be SERVED.

Good news all around.

Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: DennisS on January 21, 2017, 08:50:28 PM
Quote from: Cyrano on January 15, 2017, 11:34:21 PM
...and it would now appear that there's peace with both GMT and TPS.

Interesting admission in the official post that the latter has been re-added by popular demand.

Our eensy-weensy niche will be SERVED.

Good news all around.

This IS good news! BREAK OUT THE MASTERCARD!!!!!!     :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Warship NWS on June 13, 2017, 09:55:14 AM
Hi everyone, just to clarify.. I cover MMP, LW, TPS, ATO, Compass, WG, GMT, and PSC for board games.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Bison on June 13, 2017, 11:01:41 AM
Quote from: Warship NWS on June 13, 2017, 09:55:14 AM
Hi everyone, just to clarify.. I cover MMP, LW, TPS, ATO, Compass, WG, GMT, and PSC for board games.

Thanks :)

I've ordered several GMT games from NWS this past year.  Great service.
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: mirth on June 13, 2017, 11:04:22 AM
Quote from: Bison on June 13, 2017, 11:01:41 AM
Quote from: Warship NWS on June 13, 2017, 09:55:14 AM
Hi everyone, just to clarify.. I cover MMP, LW, TPS, ATO, Compass, WG, GMT, and PSC for board games.

Thanks :)

I've ordered several GMT games from NWS this past year.  Great service.

I haven't ordered anything recently, but the CS provided by Chris has always been excellent.
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Warship NWS on June 13, 2017, 11:23:26 AM
Thanks guys for the support! :)
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Cyrano on June 13, 2017, 10:09:10 PM
And now we claim him as a Groghead.

Soon his buttons will be square, his corners not, and his Jack Daniels will be laced with peach schnapps.

Excellent...
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: mirth on June 13, 2017, 10:14:21 PM
So long as he doesn't start wearing Uggs...
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: Toonces on June 14, 2017, 06:10:38 AM
I'm reading a biography on Nimitz, and it says that he liked to wear a pair of uggs while he had his morning coffee and went through the overnight dispatches.
Title: Re: NWS to No Longer Stock GMT, DVG, or TPS
Post by: bbmike on June 14, 2017, 06:56:31 AM
Quote from: Toonces on June 14, 2017, 06:10:38 AM
I'm reading a biography on Nimitz, and it says that he liked to wear a pair of uggs while he had his morning coffee and went through the overnight dispatches.

I read that too! The coffee had to be Starbucks or he would get really mad!