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Looking forward to it.
But I'm pretty stoked to see what they first do with Iron Fist. ^-^
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BRING ON HELLCAT!
Quote from: bayonetbrant on January 12, 2017, 07:42:59 PM
BRING ON HELLCAT!
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/1542610/will-the-defenders-add-hellcat-to-the-team-heres-what-we-know
Typhoid Mary as the main villain seems... underwhelming. Even if she's played by Sigourney Weaver. Whose casting seems likely to change the character so much I don't know why they'd bother.
After Thanos and Ultron, anything at the street level is going to seem underwhelming.
I'm curious how they're going to tie up the loose Luke Cage ends before Defenders hits the screen. Is Luke Cage season 2 going to hit first? And if so, why that one instead of Jessica Jones first?
^Yeah, but Typhoid Mary is really underwhelming.
She's often more of a henchwoman than an actual villain.
Plus, she's supposed to be young and hot (and crazy, and pyrokinetic) in the comics, and a pseudo-romantic-interest
for Daredevil (and far less so, for Deadpool).
So casting an older actress, even if an awesome one, seems questionable.
Btw, has there been more information about the Captain Marvel show?
Btw 2: Patty Walker is already on the Jessica Jones show, so it's probably just a matter of time before she truly
adopts the mantle of Hellcat.
Heck, last time I saw her in the comics (back when she crossed over to being a Deadpool villain thanks to the Deadpool/Daredevil crossover -- which was amazing, naturally), she wasn't even pyrokinetic.
Seems like undead vampire ninjas (or worse, if not outright Dracula), having been set up in DD season 2, would be the proper go-to here. Maybe the writers are going to make Mary be a thousand-year-old daughter of Dracula now?? ???
Quote from: Tpek on January 13, 2017, 04:11:13 PMBtw 2: Patty Walker is already on the Jessica Jones show, so it's probably just a matter of time before she truly adopts the mantle of Hellcat.
Oh, I know - I was a big fan of the JJ show and thought it was awesome the way they'd already set her up to eventually morph into Hellcat.
Needs more Hellcat
I'll just be happy to have them all in a single show. I can't keep up with the individual shows.
Think I'm looking forward to their Punisher series more. Not gonna complain, though. :nerd:
Quote from: JasonPratt on January 13, 2017, 04:47:48 PM
Seems like undead vampire ninjas (or worse, if not outright Dracula), having been set up in DD season 2, would be the proper go-to here. Maybe the writers are going to make Mary be a thousand-year-old daughter of Dracula now?? ???
The first part of my prophecy has come to pass.
Now, we wait. :arr:
Can't wait for this....
And the Hand resurrecting people from the dead is actually pretty canon.
It's probably how they can keep their numbers in New York so high considering all the Ninjas that keep getting killed.
Marvel's Defenders is out, today, on Netflix.
After the sadly underwhelming Iron Fist treatment, I don't have much in the way of expectations for it.
Thus far, I think the best characters & story, in all these Netflix Marvel series, haven't been about the main character. Best things about Daredevil was D'Onofrio's Kingpin, Bernthal's Punisher, for example. Similarly, but to a lesser degree, Cottonmouth, Kilgrave, and the Meachum brother & sister.
And those shows only had one main protagonist. I fear Defenders may have to divide it's attention too much, leaving the more interesting supporting/opposing characters the short end.
I've watched the first 4 episodes so far.
It's rather underwhelming TBH. And seems really really short (only 8 episodes), with little happening in each episode.
(In fact they seem themselves shorter than the normal shows' episodes)
Quote from: Tpek on August 18, 2017, 07:10:10 PM
I've watched the first 4 episodes so far.
It's rather underwhelming TBH. And seems really really short (only 8 episodes), with little happening in each episode.
(In fact they seem themselves shorter than the normal shows' episodes)
I wasn't that invested, so I count myself fortunate. I also think the writing, and especially the dialogue, has been very 'meh'.
I only hope they continue the Punisher magic, in his upcoming series. Will be very disappointed if they screw that up, after his great stint in DD s2.
Should I watch all of the pre-series before Defenders?
I mean, watch all of Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and Jessica Jones?
Is that required before getting the Defenders storyline?
I've seen the first five episodes of Daredevil (season 1), most (but not all) of both Luke Cage and Iron Fist, and maybe one episode of Jessica Jones. Just wondering if the Defenders would be enjoyable for me at this point, or if it's better to slog through all of the above first (which I think was the intent of the creators).
I've kinda given up on the Netflix Marvel stuff. Watching a lot of it does feel like a slog.
I'm finding the DC television shows more enjoyable. And I can watch those with my kids, unlike Netflix Marvel.
^ That's kind of how I've been feeling about it all.
I mean, I thought Daredevil was okay - it took a while to ramp up, but I stopped after Episode 5 right when they introduced the Kingpin character. I should have stuck with it.
Luke Cage is a great one, though it's fairly predictable and cliched. (I guess you could make that argument for any 'superhero' series, but it's still enjoyable.)
Iron Fist has good moments, but it's lacking something. Plus I think whomever directs is obsessed with feet. I can do without the closeups.
Jessica Jones, I just couldn't get into in that one episode.
Agents of SHIELD, I really liked the first couple of seasons of, mainly because of how it sort of came out of the first Avengers movie, but I lost interest in it pretty quickly.
I watched the first 3 seasons of SHIELD but it faded for me. I might pick it up again at some point.
Watched all of Season 1 of Daredevil. Liked it, but it was a slow burn and there were lots of places where it felt like killing time.
Watched most of S1 of Jessica Jones, but then realized I really didn't care and gave it up.
I've seen bits of the others and they don't do much for me, same problems as Daredevil and JJ.
I'll give Punisher a try because he's such an epic badass character.
The DC shows aren't great, but they're at least fun and, like I said, more kid-friendly. Flash is fun and the cast is uniformly likeable. Arrow is quite good really and worth watching. Legends of Tomorrow is goofy but entertaining and the cast helps keep you engaged.
Haven't watched much of Supergirl or Gotham, but they seem decent enough from the little I have seen.
Daredevil is great. I'd watch the two seasons of it anyway. I didn't bother to watch any of the other characters shows before diving into Defenders. I think I missed a lot but nothing so far that makes me feel like I have to go back and watch them to enjoy Defenders. The second season of Daredevil is the main plot for the Defenders dealing with Electra and The Hand. It starts off kind of slow too but gets better about mid way. My 2 cents.
I'll have to finish season 2 of DD. Watched the first 3-4 episodes back when they were first released.
I enjoyed the few episodes of Arrow I'd watched, and I agree that Flash was very enjoyable - that first season. Season 2 wasn't as good, but it's been a while. I might have to go rewatch everything.
I haven't made it to S2 of the Flash yet though I've heard it isn't as good as the first. I guess the show has tended to ebb and flow for quality.
It is a real slow burner at times and all the flashbacks comes close to killing it at times. But the show's done very well and the violence gives it a more real feeling. My wife hates superhero movies but loves Daredevil. It's funny to watch her shout at the TV screen when the bad guys do something really devious or DD does something really dumb. Watching it a second time with her, I pick-up a lot I missed the time through. The Punisher in Season Two nearly steals the whole show and if you don't already know his character's story, really gives you the feeling, "Is this guy a Good Guy or a Bad Guy"?
I loved Daredevil. I kind of dropped off of Jessica Jones but went back to it and enjoyed it. I wasn't a huge fan of Luke Cage but it was watchable. I just did not like Iron First. Defenders Assemble was very good. Really enjoyed it.
Cannot wait for The Punisher.
As for DC stuff. Nah. Not for me. I've watched an episode here and there or Arrow and Flash and I just can't be doing with them. Even my daughter has dropped off from them.
Also - Agents of Shield was good. Still enjoyable. Not great - but enjoyable and it did tail off in the middle - but it picked back up imo. My daughter and I keep watching.
JJ - probably 2 episodes 2 long, but an enjoyable story. I'm hoping they eventually roll out Patsy as Hellcat with the Defenders.
DD - we're about halfway thru S1, but we didn't give up; soccer season kicked in
Iron Fist - haven't even started
Luke Cage - Watched in about 4 nights. Fun show and the easter eggs are totally worth it
Defenders - Watched the first episode, but decided to try to finish DD first then circle back around to it
Agents of SHIELD - when the first 2 episodes were a direct rip-off of the middle of S1 of Alphas I punted. I've heard it gets better, and as much as I like Hawkeye & Mockingbird in the comics, I just haven't gotten back around to it
Agent Carter - %$#&$&#&@&#^$%#%@^ it! Why did that one have to get canceled?!?!
Inhumans - ugh. Haven't seen a good clip of this yet.
+++
Arrow - we're almost done with S2, but enjoyed it all along. Moreover, their portrayal of Suicide Squad, and especially Deadshot, was soooo much more accurate than the movie. We're going to catch up, but it'll take a while b/c there's a lot
Flash / Supergirl - not watched at all, doubt we will given how far behind we are on everything else.
Quote from: BanzaiCat on October 19, 2017, 12:21:33 PM
I enjoyed the few episodes of Arrow I'd watched, and I agree that Flash was very enjoyable - that first season. Season 2 wasn't as good, but it's been a while. I might have to go rewatch everything.
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Agents of SHIELD, I really liked the first couple of seasons of, mainly because of how it sort of came out of the first Avengers movie, but I lost interest in it pretty quickly.
Whew. You like the cheese, then?
I tried watching some episodes of
Agents of Shield. So much cheese, thought I was in Wisconsin. Couldn't keep it up.
Same for most anything DC. I slogged through more
Arrow than the rest, but there was still a disconnect. (EDIT: Likely due, in part, to being run by network TV :puke emote: )
The only tv series I enjoyed of the bunch was the two seasons of
Daredevil, and it had occasional problems. Such as generally too much time given to the two annoyingly whiny buddies. Fortunately the other supporting cast & characters made it great. Kingpin, Punisher, Stick, and perhaps Elektra to some extent, is what made it shine.
OK. I finished up the series tonight and I've got to say I'm less than impressed. It tried real hard to be emotionally connecting and a 'team' type show but it just fell flat to me. And not that exciting either. Maybe they should put this show back in 'The Hand's' big egg-thing and see if they can bring it back to life.
Dunno if the writers changed after Daredevil but they all started getting increasingly flat with each new series.
Really hope they didn't drop the ball on Punisher. :knuppel2: