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Title: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Cyrano on January 30, 2017, 09:29:18 AM
https://www.tabletopgaming.co.uk/board-games/news/animal-rights-group-peta-calls-for-warhammer-fur-clothing-ban

I can't think of which other races/units this will significantly effect, but I tend to view all things through the prism of either the Empire or a Space Marine.

Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: jamus34 on January 30, 2017, 09:43:36 AM
1) WTF had this world come to???
2) this is what PETA has time to complain about? Pickings must be getting slim for them.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Bison on January 30, 2017, 09:46:05 AM
The correct response would be to tell PETA to go pound sand. 
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: undercovergeek on January 30, 2017, 09:48:18 AM
Beat me to it bison

Although over here we'd say 'get f*****'
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: mirth on January 30, 2017, 09:49:02 AM
The correct response would be to let the Space Wolves deal with PETA directly.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: MikeGER on January 30, 2017, 10:31:32 AM
... thank the Allfather that PETA didn't had discovered yet that Orcs (in all the fantasy universes) can be actually considered animals too

#orclivesmatter  #OLM

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(affected human activists helping to organize an peacefully protest marsh forming up to speak out against slaying of  T'rahylvogggosh Martulg'ur...     

^-^
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Cyrano on January 30, 2017, 11:16:36 AM
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Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: mirth on January 30, 2017, 11:17:16 AM
^nice!
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: bbmike on January 30, 2017, 11:22:11 AM
Wait, let me find it...

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Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Freyland on January 30, 2017, 12:49:43 PM
PETA member goes to throw paint on a fur-coated SpaceWolf miniature.

Realizes owner has already done it.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 30, 2017, 12:50:25 PM
Quote from: Freyland on January 30, 2017, 12:49:43 PM
PETA member goes to throw paint on a fur-coated SpaceWolf miniature.

Realizes owner has already done it.


now having to stifle laughter in class lest I have to explain it
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Tpek on January 30, 2017, 01:05:24 PM
Considering that for the SW, wolves are more than just pets, it's not like they've killed them to wear them, as much as
these are probably wolves who fell in battle and got the "honor" of being worn (hey, they already do it to humans in the W40K universe).
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: mirth on January 30, 2017, 01:15:07 PM
PETA is going to ask for a Vegan order of Space Marines: Adeptus Tofutus
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Sir Slash on January 30, 2017, 02:37:47 PM
PLMT-- Plant Lives Matter Too! After all, some of us could be just in a vegetative state. Careful there. Careful.  :-X
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: mirth on January 30, 2017, 02:42:24 PM
All Hail Emperor Soybean!
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: JasonPratt on January 30, 2017, 03:52:19 PM
"I'd rather wear nothing at all than buy little toy figurines with fake wolf skin on them! {saucy wink!}"
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: FarAway Sooner on January 30, 2017, 04:13:03 PM
PETA does have us talking about them...

:smiley6600:       :smiley6600:
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: JasonPratt on January 30, 2017, 04:35:06 PM
They demonstrably subscribe to the "no such thing as bad PR" theory.  :))
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: mirth on January 30, 2017, 04:59:22 PM
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on January 30, 2017, 04:13:03 PM
PETA does have us talking about them...

:smiley6600:       :smiley6600:

And this is the most interest I've had in 40K in ages.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Destraex on January 30, 2017, 06:34:23 PM
It's so dark and cool that it's unbelievable! PETA you just saved that pet cat that the families teen was about to skin for his 40k minatures. :P
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Geezer on January 30, 2017, 07:22:05 PM
As a buddy of mine said, wait until they find out about skinning in WoW.  :)
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Gusington on January 30, 2017, 08:52:32 PM
I'm going to read The Kaleing by Dan Abnett next.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Nefaro on January 31, 2017, 01:23:58 AM
PETA.   ::)

You'll notice they were never complaining about GW's various Chaos forces depicted wearing skinned human faces before, in both 40K and Fantasy lines that have been around for decades. 

I'd still tell them to pound more sand into their irritated vaginas, of course. 

They're obviously just crying for attention, per usual.  Comedic ammunition for the rest of us.   O0
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Cyrano on January 31, 2017, 12:25:35 PM
My son has become obsessed with Deathwing and is constantly interrogating me about the lore.  We've been through the Great Crusade, the Horus Heresy, the death of Sanguinius, the origins of the Death Companies, &c.  Come to think of it, I'm glad his school covers the Judaeo-Christian narrative as well as it does lest I be thought a bad parent.

That said, we got round to this grievance and he concluded in short order:

1.  The Space Wolves are lunatic Scottish gits not to be disrespected, but who have silly units.

2.  They ought to wear kilts.

3.  They're only wearing the skins of their pet wolves who died in combat and the wolves would have wanted it that way.

He's eight.

Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Barthheart on January 31, 2017, 12:53:43 PM
Sounds like good parenting to me.  O0
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: mirth on January 31, 2017, 12:54:30 PM
Now get that boy a counter trimmer!
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Barthheart on January 31, 2017, 12:54:50 PM
Quote from: mirth on January 31, 2017, 12:54:30 PM
Now get that boy a counter trimmer!

>:(
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: mirth on January 31, 2017, 12:57:11 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on January 31, 2017, 12:54:50 PM
Quote from: mirth on January 31, 2017, 12:54:30 PM
Now get that boy a counter trimmer!

>:(

What? He's clearly a good kid. He should be rewarded.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Barthheart on January 31, 2017, 01:27:25 PM
Quote from: mirth on January 31, 2017, 12:57:11 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on January 31, 2017, 12:54:50 PM
Quote from: mirth on January 31, 2017, 12:54:30 PM
Now get that boy a counter trimmer!

>:(

What? He's clearly a good kid. He should be rewarded.

#:-)
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Zulu1966 on January 31, 2017, 03:38:49 PM
Jesus's.  If only I had as much time on my hands as the people who run that organisations obviously have I might be able to play more of my games bought and never touched
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Tpek on January 31, 2017, 04:31:56 PM
Quote from: Zulu1966 on January 31, 2017, 03:38:49 PM
Jesus's.  If only I had as much time on my hands as the people who run that organisations obviously have I might be able to play more of my games bought and never touched

Or maybe if they'd just play video games, they wouldn't be so uptight all the time.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 31, 2017, 06:16:06 PM
Dammit. Read the forums? What a novel concept.  :(
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: undercovergeek on January 31, 2017, 06:23:20 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on January 31, 2017, 06:16:06 PM
Dammit. Read the forums? What a novel concept.  :(

There he is
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: BanzaiCat on January 31, 2017, 06:47:59 PM
Ain't the furst, won't be da last...
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: MikeGER on February 01, 2017, 02:31:05 AM
#Fakenews

Slitherine reacts in the yesterday patch 1.02 of Scantus Reach with an option to turn of the fur for pink polyester 
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: bbmike on February 01, 2017, 06:21:40 AM
Quote from: MikeGER on February 01, 2017, 02:31:05 AM
#Fakenews

Slitherine reacts in the yesterday patch 1.02 of Scantus Reach with an option to turn of the fur for pink polyester

Don't laugh, it happened to the Kzinti in the Star Trek The Animated Series.
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Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Nefaro on February 01, 2017, 11:05:48 AM
Quote from: bbmike on February 01, 2017, 06:21:40 AM
Quote from: MikeGER on February 01, 2017, 02:31:05 AM
#Fakenews

Slitherine reacts in the yesterday patch 1.02 of Scantus Reach with an option to turn of the fur for pink polyester

Don't laugh, it happened to the Kzinti in the Star Trek The Animated Series.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aarcentral.com%2Fpics%2Fkzinti.jpg&hash=deff918d439af3312a29fcdc0bcd6eaca12f2df7)



Those filthy Cat-eople were wearing fur. 

They were such animals!

:))
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: mirth on February 01, 2017, 11:17:37 AM
I loved blowing them up in Star Fleet Battles.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: OJsDad on February 01, 2017, 11:18:32 AM
And wearing their furs afterwards. 
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Nefaro on February 01, 2017, 11:18:46 AM
Quote from: mirth on February 01, 2017, 11:17:37 AM
I loved blowing them up in Star Fleet Battles.

I loved ramming people in the SFC series with them.  Full ESGs ahead!
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: mirth on February 01, 2017, 11:19:51 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on February 01, 2017, 11:18:46 AM
Quote from: mirth on February 01, 2017, 11:17:37 AM
I loved blowing them up in Star Fleet Battles.

I loved ramming people in the SFC series with them.  Full ESGs ahead!

also fun
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: bbmike on February 01, 2017, 11:21:34 AM
Quote from: mirth on February 01, 2017, 11:17:37 AM
I loved blowing them up in Star Fleet Battles.

You must have been using house rules because the Kzinti were extremely powerful with their drones.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Nefaro on February 01, 2017, 11:23:55 AM
Quote from: bbmike on February 01, 2017, 11:21:34 AM
Quote from: mirth on February 01, 2017, 11:17:37 AM
I loved blowing them up in Star Fleet Battles.

You must have been using house rules because the Kzinti were extremely powerful with their drones.


Except against my Lyran ESGs.   


MUAHAHahaah!!  *evil cat laugh*
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: mirth on February 01, 2017, 11:25:21 AM
It's been so long since I played SFB I can't honestly remember. I was probably the one whose ships were getting blown up :P
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Cyrano on February 01, 2017, 11:40:29 AM
Tholian web m-er f-ers.

Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: mirth on February 01, 2017, 11:42:54 AM
Quote from: Cyrano on February 01, 2017, 11:40:29 AM
Tholian web m-er f-ers.



Heh. I do remember hating the Tholians.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Freyland on February 01, 2017, 11:47:25 AM
The Emperor is not amused at your heretical thread derailment.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: mirth on February 01, 2017, 11:51:24 AM
The Emperor would hate Tholians too.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: bbmike on February 01, 2017, 11:58:57 AM
Quote from: mirth on February 01, 2017, 11:51:24 AM
The Emperor would hate Tholians too.

And get his ass kicked by the Kzinti.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Sir Slash on February 01, 2017, 12:22:18 PM
The Cat People shouldn't be using lasers. Don't they know what happens?  :hide:
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 01, 2017, 01:16:49 PM
Quote from: mirth on February 01, 2017, 11:51:24 AM
The Emperor would hate Tholians too.

And the Gorn.

Fuck them and their homing plasma torpedoes, too.  >:(
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Cyrano on February 01, 2017, 04:36:46 PM
It is amazing the painful, annoying, BS weapon system the guys in ADB dreamed up based on a single episode or, in a case or two, a single reference in a True Star Trek episode.

Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 01, 2017, 07:38:23 PM
I am utterly convinced I would have been a lot more into SFB at the time were it not for my best friend at the time...he had just about all the SFB stuff and always, always chose the thrice-damned Gorn ships with their homing torpedoes. Frustrated the hell out of me, so much so I never wanted anything to do with it again.

Not that it mattered, I didn't have any other friends that played it.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: mirth on February 01, 2017, 07:40:18 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on February 01, 2017, 07:38:23 PM
Not that it mattered, I didn't have any other friends.

ftfy
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: BanzaiCat on February 01, 2017, 07:41:03 PM
(click)

It's a record. I saw that coming before I even clicked 'Post.'  ::)
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Cyrano on February 01, 2017, 10:19:58 PM
One of the guys who runs the big SFB games at GenCon has been playing pretty much only SFB for 30 years.

The Emperor finds his loyalty praiseworthy.

I tried to convince him to try Car Wars once and he told me it was all the complexity of SFB with none of the satisfaction.  Given that we attempted to use Steve's ridiculous car rolling/physics rules in that particular game, I was hard put to contradict him.

Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 03, 2017, 06:20:31 AM
Reaper Minis has the perfect response...

https://www.facebook.com/ReaperMini/photos/a.231594338056.132902.209356218056/10154963062273057/?type=3&theater

QuoteWith all the kerfluffle going on regarding fur on miniatures, we here at Reaper Miniatures would like to issue a brief statement regarding this deeply troubling issue.
We take this matter very seriously. We love our animal friends very much. This is why we have never, ever sculpted real fur onto any of our models. All fur depicted on any Reaper miniature is 100% synthetic "faux" fur. Any other type of fur depictions would just be irresponsible and unethical.
In the same vein, none of the leather textures on our models should be construed as leather, rather they should be interpreted as Naugahyde, or simply pleather. Nor should any flesh be considered flesh, but Soylent Green.
Again, we appreciate your time and thank you for your support.

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Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: mirth on February 03, 2017, 06:23:07 AM
^brilliant!
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Sir Slash on February 03, 2017, 11:07:45 AM
I know that guy. He's a Greeter at my local Wal-Mart. Furs included.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Jack Nastyface on February 03, 2017, 04:44:56 PM
Reaper is in for it now.  That figure features human skulls and a wooden mace, which will garner the ire of PETH and PETT (people for the ethical treatment of Humans / Trees).  Also, that doesn't look like astroturf he is standing on , so expect to hear from PETG as well.

This message brought to you by PETE (people for the ethical treatment of electrons...many of whom selflessly died to create this post.  Remember them).

Jack Nastyface
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: mirth on February 03, 2017, 05:13:17 PM
You forgot PETP. People for the Ethical Treatment of Paint.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Nefaro on February 03, 2017, 07:37:37 PM
Speaking of 40K...

Kinda been getting the itch to do some Dark Heresy 2nd Ed. on the tabletop.  I wonder if RP'ing burning the flesh off heretics would be protest worthy too?

Because nobody expects the Imperial Inquisition!




Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 03, 2017, 09:55:50 PM
Too bad we can't get any traction for the People for the Ethical Treatment of Other People
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: JasonPratt on February 06, 2017, 09:17:50 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on February 03, 2017, 09:55:50 PM
Too bad we can't get any traction for the People for the Ethical Treatment of Other People

Eh, we have a bunch of churches for that. But they're too passe for PETA. ;)
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: Cyrano on February 07, 2017, 01:04:55 PM
Despite being a La Bataille kinda guy, all the 40k RPG stuff from FFG struck me as far too much futz for what it was.

Ran an inquisition campaign not long ago using Savage Worlds and it went well.  Just doesn't handle the full-on 40k combat well, but neither, frankly did Dark Heresy.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: W8taminute on February 07, 2017, 10:44:47 PM
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Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: bayonetbrant on February 20, 2017, 11:26:05 AM
a recent statement from PETA.

who knows if this is post-hoc ret-conning or not

QuoteWe're laughing, too! For the cost of a postage stamp, our website has received record traffic – and the people who were prompted to visit our site by this story can't have missed the prominently featured eyewitness footage showing that animals in real life are electrocuted, drowned, and sometimes even skinned alive for their fur.

Here's a little secret: we know that Warhammer characters are fictional, and we're not losing sleep worrying about what Leman Russ or the other miniatures are "wearing". We are, however, lying awake at night thinking of ways to make people aware that real animals who are raised for their fur, skin, or flesh are suffering every day. We'll sleep a little more easily tonight knowing that we've managed to get nearly a quarter of a million people (and counting!) to visit PETA.org.uk in the days since we sent our letter, because – whatever their reason for doing so – they'll now know more about the cruelty behind fur.

So by all means, have a laugh at this campaign – you can even laugh at us – but please remember that the fur industry is a living hell for animals. If that bothers you, and it should, please share our fur exposés with your friends and family.
Title: Re: NOW the Space Wolves are in Trouble...
Post by: JasonPratt on February 20, 2017, 11:51:15 AM
As predicted, they're just good at getting attention by doing stupid / scandalous things -- for a good cause.  ::)