WINSPWW2 version 10.0 upgrade patch info:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=51493
WINSPMBT version 11.0 upgrade patch info:
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=51494
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Thanks!
Thanks for the heads-up!
Sure thing.
Hate when this comes up...always tempted, never pull the trigger
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 04, 2017, 07:09:21 AM
Hate when this comes up...always tempted, never pull the trigger
I reckon they won't go fading out all of a sudden, improvement and upgrading have been constant for some time now despite game engine limitations and age, etc.
Wasn't really concerned about their longevity and commitment to future enhancements....its just me not sure I would personally get $40 out of this older game. I completely understand it has a TON of content, but any time I tried to play the FREE version, didn't last long. Always curious if the enhanced paid version would make that big of a difference for my enjoyment....hence my hesitation.
I have the enhanced version. If the free version doesn't float your boat, the enhanced version is just nice things to make the interface a little more flexible and a few menu add ons. Never felt it was worth the $40 vs the free version. The paid version has some nice tools for editing units and such. So if you do a lot of mods, it might be worth it.
Paid version has enhanced resolution. That was the biggest draw for me. No regrets.
I would be most interested in the enhanced version for the increased resolution only...just wasn't sure how much it actually improved the look and feel for $40.
Some day I will cave....can't argue with the content and features.
As monitor screens get bigger, it becomes harder and harder to play the free version.
Trouble is, the screens have gotten so big that the $40 version doesn't seem much better. At $10 or $20 a lot more people would be pulling the trigger.
Ten to fifteen years ago $40 was a fair price, but it doesn't make much sense now.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 04, 2017, 08:45:27 AM
Paid version has enhanced resolution. That was the biggest draw for me. No regrets.
Agree! The increased resolution made a big difference for me. On my 25" at 1920x1080, the games look great.
Hopefully the "new" Steel Tigers game will come out before I croak......rather wait for that than buy the older looking game. I did enjoy Steel Panther...15 yrs ago ;)
Thanks Oche. \m/
Quote from: WallysWorld on March 04, 2017, 11:20:50 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 04, 2017, 08:45:27 AM
Paid version has enhanced resolution. That was the biggest draw for me. No regrets.
Agree! The increased resolution made a big difference for me. On my 25" at 1920x1080, the games look great.
+1
I really enjoy the enhanced look on the paid version. It was worth it to me to give some longevity to two of my favorite games.
WinSPMBT version 10.0 - version 12.0 Consolidation patch 2018
32 New Scenarios
30 Revised Scenarios
2 Revised Campaigns
81 New or Revised Map files
347 New or Revised OOB Photos
5 New or Revised Game Interface Photos
555 New or Revised vehicle / aircraft Icons
93 Updated OOB Files
49 New or Revised Icon files
221 New or Revised Text files
23 Revised picklist files
7 New or Revised sound files
144 New or Revised Game Guide Photos / Graphics
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=51842
WinSPWW2 version 9.0 - 11.0 Consolidation patch 2018
36 New Scenarios
20 Revised Scenarios
1 New Campaign
10 Revised Campaigns
102 New or Revised maps
501 New or Revised OOB Photos
20 New or Revised Game Interface Photos
36 Updated OOB files
422 New or Revised vehicle/ aircraft Icons
1007 New or Revised Text file
4 new or revised sound files
95 New or Revised Game Guide Photos / Graphics
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=51841
This mean a big sale coming! :DD
So, I'm guessing the answer I'll get it "yes", but is the enhanced version worth the price tag? Steel Tigers has to be a couple years from being done and I've been dying to fire up Steel Panthers, but it's hard to look at those Atari 2600 graphics :'(
Quote from: acctingman on March 29, 2018, 10:55:31 AM
So, I'm guessing the answer I'll get it "yes", but is the enhanced version worth the price tag? Steel Tigers has to be a couple years from being done and I've been dying to fire up Steel Panthers, but it's hard to look at those Atari 2600 graphics :'(
Yes.
They are still in my top 10 wargames of all time...and, I think they are fairly accessible for the "part-time" grognard.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 29, 2018, 11:28:00 AM
Yes.
They are still in my top 10 wargames of all time...and, I think they are fairly accessible for the "part-time" grognard.
+1 Truly great games that are still well worth playing today.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 29, 2018, 11:28:00 AM
Quote from: acctingman on March 29, 2018, 10:55:31 AM
So, I'm guessing the answer I'll get it "yes", but is the enhanced version worth the price tag? Steel Tigers has to be a couple years from being done and I've been dying to fire up Steel Panthers, but it's hard to look at those Atari 2600 graphics :'(
Yes.
They are still in my top 10 wargames of all time...and, I think they are fairly accessible for the "part-time" grognard.
I like that JH. Honestly, that describes me perfectly!! O0
Quote from: mirth on March 29, 2018, 11:37:06 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 29, 2018, 11:28:00 AM
Yes.
They are still in my top 10 wargames of all time...and, I think they are fairly accessible for the "part-time" grognard.
+1 Truly great games that are still well worth playing today.
They remain my favorite games of all time -- computer or board.
One of my all time favorites.. I just can't stand the old graphics. .at least this one is not as bad as SPWAW.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 29, 2018, 11:28:00 AM
Quote from: acctingman on March 29, 2018, 10:55:31 AM
So, I'm guessing the answer I'll get it "yes", but is the enhanced version worth the price tag? Steel Tigers has to be a couple years from being done and I've been dying to fire up Steel Panthers, but it's hard to look at those Atari 2600 graphics :'(
Yes.
They are still in my top 10 wargames of all time...and, I think they are fairly accessible for the "part-time" grognard.
+1
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 29, 2018, 11:28:00 AM
Quote from: acctingman on March 29, 2018, 10:55:31 AM
So, I'm guessing the answer I'll get it "yes", but is the enhanced version worth the price tag? Steel Tigers has to be a couple years from being done and I've been dying to fire up Steel Panthers, but it's hard to look at those Atari 2600 graphics :'(
Yes.
They are still in my top 10 wargames of all time...and, I think they are fairly accessible for the "part-time" grognard.
Quote from: stolypin on March 29, 2018, 11:43:47 AM
Quote from: mirth on March 29, 2018, 11:37:06 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 29, 2018, 11:28:00 AM
Yes.
They are still in my top 10 wargames of all time...and, I think they are fairly accessible for the "part-time" grognard.
+1 Truly great games that are still well worth playing today.
They remain my favorite games of all time -- computer or board.
+1
Does anyone have a link to the free version? The Shrapnel site doesn't make finding it easy...I guess for obvious reasons...
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Demos/FV_MBT.html (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Demos/FV_MBT.html)
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Demos/FV_WW2.html
Quote from: ArizonaTank on March 29, 2018, 12:58:51 PM
Does anyone have a link to the free version? The Shrapnel site doesn't make finding it easy...I guess for obvious reasons...
scroll down a little in the downloads section...
http://www.matrixgames.com/products/297/downloads/ (http://www.matrixgames.com/products/297/downloads/)
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 29, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
Quote from: ArizonaTank on March 29, 2018, 12:58:51 PM
Does anyone have a link to the free version? The Shrapnel site doesn't make finding it easy...I guess for obvious reasons...
scroll down a little in the downloads section...
http://www.matrixgames.com/products/297/downloads/ (http://www.matrixgames.com/products/297/downloads/)
No, I think he wanted Shrapnel's version.. Matrix is worse graphics wise.
Just curious, any updated impressions as to if you only were to pick one up, would it be the modern or WWII one? Let's assume the person likes each era the same.
The modern version. Compared to WWII modern battles get very little gaming coverage in my opinion.
I agree. If you're going to pick one, the modern game is the way to go.
Thanks....that is what I was thinking, appreciate the feedback.
If you are going to get either one you may want to hold off until the Shrapnel Xmas sale, you'll probably be able to get up to 4% off :)
Quote from: Wolfe1759 on March 30, 2018, 09:50:10 AM
If you are going to get either one you may want to hold off until the Shrapnel Xmas sale, you'll probably be able to get up to 4% off :)
:clap: :2funny:
$5 off until April 1st. That's whopping 13% savings! (which, no joke, is about as good as it gets from Shrapnel)
http://www.gamersfront.com/store/winspmbt-main-battle-tank.html (http://www.gamersfront.com/store/winspmbt-main-battle-tank.html)
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on March 29, 2018, 04:49:43 PM
Just curious, any updated impressions as to if you only were to pick one up, would it be the modern or WWII one? Let's assume the person likes each era the same.
Modern one.
Quote from: mirth on March 29, 2018, 01:01:29 PM
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Demos/FV_MBT.html (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Demos/FV_MBT.html)
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Demos/FV_WW2.html
Thanks!!!
Quote from: ArizonaTank on March 30, 2018, 03:53:57 PM
Quote from: mirth on March 29, 2018, 01:01:29 PM
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Demos/FV_MBT.html (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Demos/FV_MBT.html)
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Demos/FV_WW2.html (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Demos/FV_WW2.html)
Thanks!!!
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Installed 9.0 over 8.1 but it's still showing 8.1. Any ideas?
Quote from: BradS62 on March 30, 2018, 04:17:59 PM
Installed 9.0 over 8.1 but it's still showing 8.1. Any ideas?
Which game, exactly?
And did you verify the correct install folder? I am not sure the WinSPMBT and WinSPWW2 installers use any sort of registry look up for folder locations. I always have to browse to my folders since I don't use the defaults.
SPWW2 I let it install on default.
C:\Shrapnel Games\The Camo Workshop\WinSPWW2
I forget if it's MBT or WW2 that requires you to confirm the overwrite of files. I know you will have issues if you click NO.
I'm sorry I can't help much more without looking at your system... :(
Quote from: DoctorQuest on March 30, 2018, 08:57:55 PM
I forget if it's MBT or WW2 that requires you to confirm the overwrite of files. I know you will have issues if you click NO.
I'm sorry I can't help much more without looking at your system... :(
MBT requires this. The WW2 title does not.
Quote from: BradS62 on March 30, 2018, 06:31:03 PM
SPWW2 I let it install on default.
C:\Shrapnel Games\The Camo Workshop\WinSPWW2
Are you sure you're using the right patch?
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 31, 2018, 04:41:31 AM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on March 30, 2018, 08:57:55 PM
I forget if it's MBT or WW2 that requires you to confirm the overwrite of files. I know you will have issues if you click NO.
I'm sorry I can't help much more without looking at your system... :(
MBT requires this. The WW2 title does not.
Copy that. Thanks, JH.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 31, 2018, 04:45:36 AM
Quote from: BradS62 on March 30, 2018, 06:31:03 PM
SPWW2 I let it install on default.
C:\Shrapnel Games\The Camo Workshop\WinSPWW2
Are you sure you're using the right patch?
Yeah 9.0 is supposed to upgrade 8.1 to 9.0 When the update runs it says it successfully installed, until I open up the game and check which version I have.
This is what the folder looks like.
(https://i.imgur.com/jdjmTZ8.jpg)
^ I think you only unzipped the files into the correct folder but you also need to run the unzipped (latest = ver.11) upgrade exe file before they are installed in this folder.
Quote from: Pete Dero on March 31, 2018, 12:01:03 PM
^ I think you only unzipped the files into the correct folder but you also need to run the unzipped (latest = ver.11) upgrade exe file before they are installed in this folder.
DING DING DING!!! I think we have a winner.
Yes, it is a two step process. Unzip the 'upgrade' file somewhere and then double click on the upgrade file to run it.
That is odd. I've run the 9.0 install. Just ran 11.0 and it's still showing 8.1 Both versions (9.0&v11) are showing in the folder but in-game says 8.1
Are they installing to the wrong folder? If the installer chooses the folder path for you it might not be the one you actually have the game in. You would have to change the path yourself to the correct one.
Also, make sure that Windows isn't automatically rolling back your install due to overzealous malware protection settings.
I have done the unthinkable....I actually purchased the paid version finally:) Have to say, the enhanced resolution does make a fairly big difference....I hesitated all this time for nothing. Look forward to diving back into this.
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 04, 2018, 05:48:16 PM
I have done the unthinkable....I actually purchased the paid version finally:) Have to say, the enhanced resolution does make a fairly big difference....I hesitated all this time for nothing. Look forward to diving back into this.
Was it on sale?
a huge $6 savings....... :)
Only WINSPMBT is on sale :-(
i am sure the rest will be soon for holidays....
Which is the better of the two iterations?
Quote from: Rayfer on November 05, 2018, 07:20:47 AM
Which is the better of the two iterations?
Depends on your preference : WWII or modern combat (MBT). The game engine is very similar.
The thing that puts me off both games is the long turn resolution and the hard to make out sprites.
I really like the concept of the game, but it feels so archaic this day and age.
If I could find a stylized tileset and spriteset to get rid of the graininess and someone could point me to a tip to get better turn resolution performance I'd be all over it.
Quote from: Pete Dero on November 05, 2018, 08:11:22 AM
Quote from: Rayfer on November 05, 2018, 07:20:47 AM
Which is the better of the two iterations?
Depends on your preference : WWII or modern combat (MBT). The game engine is very similar.
Thanks PD...one last question: Are the slightly better graphics upgrade available on both games in the paid versions?
Quote from: Rayfer on November 05, 2018, 08:35:47 AM
Quote from: Pete Dero on November 05, 2018, 08:11:22 AM
Quote from: Rayfer on November 05, 2018, 07:20:47 AM
Which is the better of the two iterations?
Depends on your preference : WWII or modern combat (MBT). The game engine is very similar.
Thanks PD...one last question: Are the slightly better graphics upgrade available on both games in the paid versions?
If you want them you will have to buy them both.
http://www.gamersfront.com/store/winspmbt-main-battle-tank.html $34
http://www.gamersfront.com/store/winspww2.html $40
Playlist of MBT with the CD (paid) version
Playlist of WWII with the CD (paid) version
Free download version for comparison
I've owned paid versions of SPWW2 and SPMBT since 2006.
They are my favorite games, computer or board, and the only games I have played regularly for over a decade.
Looking forward to Steel Tigers, when ever that comes out! Apparently the successor to Steel Panthers.
Quote from: Yskonyn on November 05, 2018, 08:34:39 AM
The thing that puts me off both games is the long turn resolution and the hard to make out sprites.
I really like the concept of the game, but it feels so archaic this day and age.
If I could find a stylized tileset and spriteset to get rid of the graininess and someone could point me to a tip to get better turn resolution performance I'd be all over it.
Not really hard to look at if you have the purchased version....actually think pretty good for an older game.
I do have the CD version, but I find it hard to make out units. Especially infantry.
I know you can switch on the flags to find them.
But the game is really slow on my system.
i don't think any game surpasses the 3 current Steel Panther versions for PC war-gaming.
The graphics for the CD's isnt that bad
Does paid version look decent on a 34" monitor?
From across the room maybe.
The graphics are probably best on smaller monitors so the images (especially the units) are not too blocky.