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Title: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: DoctorQuest on March 09, 2017, 01:11:24 PM
...but it looks to be awesome. Back on BBC America April 15.

http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2017/01/peter-capaldi-announces-his-last-season-of-doctor-who

I put Capaldi up there as one of the best...
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: Tpek on March 10, 2017, 06:59:06 AM
So any word on the next doctor?

Benedict Cumberbutch? (come on, he's already in nearly everything, so he might as well be the Doctor as well)
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: DoctorQuest on March 10, 2017, 10:19:22 AM
I suspect they will keep us in suspense like they do with every regeneration.

Cumberbatch would be awesome but I want him to keep making "Sherlock" episodes. And "Doctor Strange 2."
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: mirth on March 10, 2017, 10:26:38 AM
They conveniently forgot about the limit on regenerations. Otherwise, the one after Capaldi would be the last Doctor.
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: bob48 on March 10, 2017, 10:41:11 AM
He is going to be a hard act to follow.
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: DoctorQuest on March 10, 2017, 10:42:09 AM
Quote from: mirth on March 10, 2017, 10:26:38 AM
They conveniently forgot about the limit on regenerations. Otherwise, the one after Capaldi would be the last Doctor.

Oh ye of little faith. Why do I suspect if ratings stay up there they will figure out a workaround.
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: bob48 on March 10, 2017, 10:45:02 AM
I vote Peter Dinklage for the next Dr Who. Brilliant in GoT, so he is.
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: mirth on March 10, 2017, 10:46:38 AM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on March 10, 2017, 10:42:09 AM
Quote from: mirth on March 10, 2017, 10:26:38 AM
They conveniently forgot about the limit on regenerations. Otherwise, the one after Capaldi would be the last Doctor.

Oh ye of little faith. Why do I suspect if ratings stay up there they will figure out a workaround.

They've already backed off on the regeneration limit.
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: mirth on March 10, 2017, 10:48:43 AM
Quote from: bob48 on March 10, 2017, 10:45:02 AM
I vote Peter Dinklage for the next Dr Who. Brilliant in GoT, so he is.

Good call.
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: Dammit Carl! on March 10, 2017, 11:12:50 AM
Wasn't there some handwavey bit during Smith's run where they reset the regeneration limit?
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: mirth on March 10, 2017, 11:17:07 AM
Quote from: Dammit Carl! on March 10, 2017, 11:12:50 AM
Wasn't there some handwavey bit during Smith's run where they reset the regeneration limit?

There was something along those lines. They've basically hinted there is no limit.
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: JasonPratt on March 15, 2017, 01:36:44 PM
#8 regenerated into the War Doctor (who kind of doesn't count as a "Doctor" per se); regenerated into Ninth Doctor after the Time War, he lasted one season; regenerated into the Tenth Doctor; who cobbled up a way to regenerate into himself; final regeneration would be the Eleventh Doctor.

However, as he was dying the hiding Time Lords sent him a massive burst of power which restocked his regens. So Capaldi, while the Twelfth Doctor per se is the first of a new batch of thirteen. (In theory, if the show runs that long again and they don't have the character burn out a bunch of regenerations as a plot device. The Doctor's Wife used up all her remaining regenerations. But there are ways around that, too -- the Master showed up in the series back in the Third Doctor's day having used up all his regenerations already, and looking for a way to become immortally all-powerful, but he found ways to shapeshift and body-hack. He hasn't been a Time Lord strictly since... the Fourth Doctor's days?)

Twelve quipped at one point in his first season (fighting a ghost mummy, sort of) that he might just keep regenerating forever if he was slain, but that sounds like braggadochio.

Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: JasonPratt on March 15, 2017, 01:41:07 PM
Anyway. Now that Capaldi will be leaving, I'm taking the opportunity to batch up on his run, and I'm one episode away from the two-part finale to his first season. (About to do the instant-forest episode.) Just from hearing and reading things the past few years I know a lot of what the season-arc villain is up to and who she is already.

Capaldi is entertaining, but he's my least favorite of the modern Doctors (including John Hurt's War Doctor). And not high on the list for me including the classic Doctors either. Still, I'm only one season in (almost). He might grow on me in seasons two and three.
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: mirth on March 15, 2017, 01:43:34 PM
Basically there is no limit on regens. The show runners have found any number of ways to justify it.
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: bbmike on March 15, 2017, 02:02:19 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on March 15, 2017, 01:36:44 PM
#8 regenerated into the War Doctor (who kind of doesn't count as a "Doctor" per se); regenerated into Ninth Doctor after the Time War, he lasted one season; regenerated into the Tenth Doctor; who cobbled up a way to regenerate into himself; final regeneration would be the Eleventh Doctor.

However, as he was dying the hiding Time Lords sent him a massive burst of power which restocked his regens. So Capaldi, while the Twelfth Doctor per se is the first of a new batch of thirteen. (In theory, if the show runs that long again and they don't have the character burn out a bunch of regenerations as a plot device. The Doctor's Wife used up all her remaining regenerations. But there are ways around that, too -- the Master showed up in the series back in the Third Doctor's day having used up all his regenerations already, and looking for a way to become immortally all-powerful, but he found ways to shapeshift and body-hack. He hasn't been a Time Lord strictly since... the Fourth Doctor's days?)

Twelve quipped at one point in his first season (fighting a ghost mummy, sort of) that he might just keep regenerating forever if he was slain, but that sounds like braggadochio.

I think the Master is still a Time Lord. He was given a new set of regenerations by the Council of Time Lords in exchange for his help in one of the classic series episodes.

Now where's that "Nerds!!!" meme when I need it?  :P
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: mirth on March 15, 2017, 02:17:49 PM
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: bbmike on March 15, 2017, 03:06:39 PM
^Ah, that's better.
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: DoctorQuest on March 15, 2017, 03:56:19 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on March 15, 2017, 01:36:44 PM
#8 regenerated into the War Doctor (who kind of doesn't count as a "Doctor" per se); regenerated into Ninth Doctor after the Time War, he lasted one season; regenerated into the Tenth Doctor; who cobbled up a way to regenerate into himself; final regeneration would be the Eleventh Doctor.

However, as he was dying the hiding Time Lords sent him a massive burst of power which restocked his regens. So Capaldi, while the Twelfth Doctor per se is the first of a new batch of thirteen. (In theory, if the show runs that long again and they don't have the character burn out a bunch of regenerations as a plot device. The Doctor's Wife used up all her remaining regenerations. But there are ways around that, too -- the Master showed up in the series back in the Third Doctor's day having used up all his regenerations already, and looking for a way to become immortally all-powerful, but he found ways to shapeshift and body-hack. He hasn't been a Time Lord strictly since... the Fourth Doctor's days?)

Twelve quipped at one point in his first season (fighting a ghost mummy, sort of) that he might just keep regenerating forever if he was slain, but that sounds like braggadochio.

Thanks, JP. I knew someone here would set this all straight.
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: JasonPratt on March 15, 2017, 04:15:59 PM
Quote from: bbmike on March 15, 2017, 02:02:19 PM
I think the Master is still a Time Lord. He was given a new set of regenerations by the Council of Time Lords in exchange for his help in one of the classic series episodes.

Seriously don't think so; but checking around, he was given a new set of regenerations (despite NOT BEING A TIME LORD ANYMORE!! -- having taken new bodies since sometime in Four's era) behind the scenes during the Time War. So when he shows up again during Ten's era, as an old amnesiac man at the end of time, he's able to regenerate (somewhat forcibly) into a new body for his two fights with Ten.

Notably he isn't a Time Lord biologically at any time during the TV Movie (introducing Eight). The TLs evidently put his mind back into a Time Lord body for the Time War, after rescuing him (somehow, handwave) from the Eye of Time in the TARDIS.
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: bbmike on March 15, 2017, 04:32:44 PM
Interesting. The Whoniverse is a confusing place!  :D
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: JasonPratt on March 16, 2017, 01:31:17 PM
I have to admit that at some point one just has to throw up the hands and remember that the Who writers traditionally love clever-sounding whimsical nonsense fantasy. In 12's first season the moon not only turns out to have zero minerals only an eggshell (despite existing in nominal Earth continuity with moon shots), and bacteria with the shape and behavior of large spiders, but a winged space creature hatching from inside which rapidly gains and loses freakish amounts of mass, and which shortly after its birth (when continent-sized egg-shells simply disintegrate with no harm to Earth) lays another egg the same size as the egg it just hatched from ten seconds earlier to serve as the Earth's new moon going forward -- thus inspiring humanity's space travel and not inspiring them to think of the moon ever afterward as anything other than a giant rock.

That's whimsical fantasy -- which wouldn't be bad except the same writers make fun of scientific ignorance while presenting themselves on the side of scientific enlightenment which their show is supposed to be promoting.  ::) :P

In short, sure the Master probably is biologically a Time Lord again in the story because whatever sounds right or interesting this week is true. I should breathe and just relax.  :nerd: <:-)
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: mirth on July 23, 2017, 06:24:24 PM
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: JasonPratt on July 24, 2017, 06:05:10 AM
Wait.

Is Mark Gatiss going to play the Brig?  :smitten:
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: bbmike on July 25, 2017, 05:55:40 PM
^Hope not, I didn't get a Brigadier vibe from Gatiss.  :(
Just finished the current season. I think Capaldi was the best modern Doctor so far. It will be interesting to see what they do next. I do hope they change the show, I'm tired of the same old rehash since 2005. I still think the classic Dr Who is the best. (https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aarcentral.com%2Fpics%2Fold.gif&hash=84795a126d2d2ae2464dec70f5c4a071b21b8caa)
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: bob48 on July 26, 2017, 05:06:25 AM
I agree with you totally about Capaldi.
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: bbmike on July 26, 2017, 05:59:21 AM
From Den of Geek: (http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/doctor-who/48818/doctor-who-christmas-special-moffat-on-capaldis-sendoff)

...it's also been confirmed by the BBC that Mark Gatiss will make also a guest appearance as a WWI soldier "known so far only as 'The Captain'. It's not yet clear whether 'The Captain' will have any connection to Gatiss' previous roles in the series.
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: JasonPratt on July 27, 2017, 07:15:04 AM
Doesn't seem likely he'll be a young Captain LethStew, then (his character looks too old to be a young colonel and brigadier later), although they're sure teasing fans about it with his non-name and general look.
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: bbmike on July 27, 2017, 07:24:49 AM
Maybe it's Captain Blackadder?  :D
Title: Re: Dr. Who - This will be Peter Capaldi's last season....
Post by: GDS_Starfury on July 28, 2017, 12:11:11 AM
now that would be fucking hysterical!