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Title: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: Nefaro on March 28, 2017, 05:44:48 PM
Fingers crossed.


Astronomers to Peer Into a Black Hole for 1st Time with Event Horizon Telescope
By Carole Mundell, University of Bath | March 26, 2017 08:37am ET


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On April 5-14 2017, the team behind the Event Horizon Telescope hopes to test the fundamental theories of black-hole physics by attempting to take the first ever image of a black hole's event horizon (the point at which theory predicts nothing can escape). By connecting a global array of radio telescopes together to form the equivalent of a giant Earth-sized telescope – using a technique known as Very Long Baseline Interferometry and Earth-aperture synthesis – scientists will peer into the heart of our Milky Way galaxy where a black hole that is 4m times more massive than our sun – Sagittarius A* – lurks.

Astronomers know there is a disk of dust and gas orbiting around the black hole. The path the light from this material takes will be distorted in the gravitational field of the black hole. Its brightness and colour are also expected to be altered in predictable ways. The tell-tale signature astronomers hope to see with the Event Horizon Telescope is a bright crescent shape rather than a disk. And they may even see the shadow of the black hole's event horizon against the backdrop of this brightly shining swirling material.


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http://www.space.com/36209-astronomers-will-peer-inside-black-event-horizon-telescope.html

Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: Gusington on March 28, 2017, 09:15:11 PM
Is Sam Neill in there somewhere?
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: mirth on March 28, 2017, 09:34:35 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 28, 2017, 09:15:11 PM
Is Sam Neill in there somewhere?

I saw Laurence Fishburne.
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: DoctorQuest on March 28, 2017, 09:40:35 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 28, 2017, 09:15:11 PM
Is Sam Neill in there somewhere?

Or that damned creepy red robot?  :hide:
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: mirth on March 28, 2017, 09:43:27 PM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on March 28, 2017, 09:40:35 PM
Or that damned creepy red robot?  :hide:

HK-47?
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: Staggerwing on March 29, 2017, 05:43:06 AM
Wasn't there a thread floating around somewhere which posits that 'Event Horizon' may be a sort of 'ancestor' to every story in the WH40K-verse? The titular ship even looks like it was made from parts of a basilica:


(https://moviepicture.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/derelictship.jpg)



Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: Gusington on March 29, 2017, 06:38:06 AM
My brain just reached its first event horizon for the day.
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: Nefaro on March 29, 2017, 06:49:16 AM
Quote from: mirth on March 28, 2017, 09:43:27 PM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on March 28, 2017, 09:40:35 PM
Or that damned creepy red robot?  :hide:

HK-47?


HK-47 isn't creepy.  He's downright adorable.   :dreamer:




Quote from: Staggerwing on March 29, 2017, 05:43:06 AM
Wasn't there a thread floating around somewhere which posits that 'Event Horizon' may be a sort of 'ancestor' to every story in the WH40K-verse? The titular ship even looks like it was made from parts of a basilica:



I've seen the discussions before, and wondered about it myself.

Wasn't sure just how far the Warp travel + chaos theme had advanced by the time the movie was made.  IMDB says it came out in 1997, so it was probably being created in '96.  Did WH40K have all it's current Warp themes by that point in time?  Did the writer(s) repackage the demonic warp travel theme from 40k, or was it the other way around? 

Most of my knowledge about it, in the 90s, came from one of the earliest 40K manuals I had purchased back in the late '80s.  Never really got into tabletop mini games, so I certainly didn't continue buying 40k manuals into the '90s.  WH40k was pretty different back then, compared to today, including the lore.  I don't recall the warp/chaos demon relationship being present in it's earlier edition, but it's been a long time and I didn't commit much of it to memory at the time.

Maybe some of you can remember where the WH40k lore sat on the subject, back in '96?





Also.. excellent movie background YT channel, with lots of interesting factoid tidbits about the creation of specific films.  Here's one on EH:

Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: bayonetbrant on March 29, 2017, 07:33:10 AM
sorry, but I found the EH movie to be kind of "ugh"- I just didn't enjoy it at all


The Black Hole, on the other hand, had promise, but crammed 45-minute TV show into a 2-hour movie
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: mirth on March 29, 2017, 08:46:49 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on March 29, 2017, 07:33:10 AM
sorry, but I found the EH movie to be kind of "ugh"- I just didn't enjoy it at all

+1 It wasn't very good.
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: DoctorQuest on March 29, 2017, 09:02:57 AM
Quote from: mirth on March 28, 2017, 09:43:27 PM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on March 28, 2017, 09:40:35 PM
Or that damned creepy red robot?  :hide:

HK-47?

No. Maximillian from The Black Hole.

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nerdist.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F05%2FBlack-Hole-2.jpg&hash=968cda2db1a17431ef40c132f19a5580146c9b0c)
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: Gusington on March 29, 2017, 09:47:36 AM
When it first came out Event Horizon terrified me. I recently watched it again on Netflix and didn't appreciate it as much. Still enjoyed it though.
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: JasonPratt on March 29, 2017, 11:18:03 AM
Space Hulk in 1993 talked about the chaos problems of warp travel; I'm pretty sure the rulebook mentioned demons along the way although the game naturally didn't focus on that topic.
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: MetalDog on March 29, 2017, 11:19:05 AM
Saw EH in the movies.  It was plenty scary then.  Like Gus, I just recently watched again on Netflix.  I watched it with my daughter and she really liked it.  Helped me to retain some of my like for it, too.
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: JasonPratt on March 29, 2017, 12:56:57 PM
As for the Chaos Marines, the Vengeance of the Blood Angels in 1995 definitely featured them (I double-checked the date to be sure of the time, and also if my memories of Chaos Marines was correct), so they must have been around for at least some time before that. The Gothic-horror architecture had certainly been around earlier, so far as the boardgame of Space Hulk is concerned.

Considering that Paul Anderson was an avid game player, any influence would have run that way at first. But of course the GW crew could also have borrowed themes when expanding later.
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: Gusington on March 29, 2017, 01:49:15 PM
I can only imagine the pure insanity that would ensue if I tried to watch it with my daughters or even The Wife now.
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 29, 2017, 02:44:17 PM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on March 29, 2017, 09:02:57 AM
Quote from: mirth on March 28, 2017, 09:43:27 PM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on March 28, 2017, 09:40:35 PM
Or that damned creepy red robot?  :hide:

HK-47?

No. Maximillian from The Black Hole.

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nerdist.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F05%2FBlack-Hole-2.jpg&hash=968cda2db1a17431ef40c132f19a5580146c9b0c)

Does anyone else think that old B.O.B. from The Black Hole looks a lot like Cartmann from South Park?

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdanefield.com%2Falpha%2Fforums%2Fuploads%2Fpost-125-1280574989.jpg&hash=0bce218f36a3e757c3749df058653862c08df66b)

Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: Gusington on March 29, 2017, 05:26:52 PM
I see that.
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: Nefaro on March 29, 2017, 07:44:57 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on March 29, 2017, 11:18:03 AM
Space Hulk in 1993 talked about the chaos problems of warp travel; I'm pretty sure the rulebook mentioned demons along the way although the game naturally didn't focus on that topic.

Quote from: JasonPratt on March 29, 2017, 12:56:57 PM
As for the Chaos Marines, the Vengeance of the Blood Angels in 1995 definitely featured them (I double-checked the date to be sure of the time, and also if my memories of Chaos Marines was correct), so they must have been around for at least some time before that. The Gothic-horror architecture had certainly been around earlier, so far as the boardgame of Space Hulk is concerned.

Considering that Paul Anderson was an avid game player, any influence would have run that way at first. But of course the GW crew could also have borrowed themes when expanding later.


That narrows it down a bit.

Perhaps some inspiration for it was gleaned from WH40k at the time.  Still not sure if the actual warp travel = demon infestation thing was all that fleshed out at the time, in 40k, so I guess it's still possible they both expanded that idea at the same time.
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: Nefaro on March 29, 2017, 07:51:52 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on March 29, 2017, 07:33:10 AM
sorry, but I found the EH movie to be kind of "ugh"- I just didn't enjoy it at all


The Black Hole, on the other hand, had promise, but crammed 45-minute TV show into a 2-hour movie


I enjoyed both, in their time.  Although I could still get some enjoyment out of watching EH today, whereas I attempted The Black Hole a number of years ago and it definitely hadn't aged well.  Of course, I was fairly young when I first saw that one.

There was another '90s movie I really enjoyed, featuring Sam Neill oddly enough, that is pretty polarizing in reviews - In The Mouth Of Madness.  Came out almost the same time EH did.  One of the few campy Lovecraft inspired movies that actually worked IMO, but also not for everyone.
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: Gusington on March 29, 2017, 07:58:49 PM
^Never seen that, I've heard good things.
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: mirth on March 29, 2017, 08:03:30 PM
It's about on par with Event Horizon. If you liked EH, you'll like In the Mouth of Madness.
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: Sir Slash on March 30, 2017, 09:10:52 PM
Could they possibly use the Black Hole to go back in time and make Pamela Anderson HOT again?  :dreamer:
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: Nefaro on March 30, 2017, 11:16:28 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 29, 2017, 07:58:49 PM
^Never seen that, I've heard good things.


Very Lovecraftian, without being directly so. 

One of the more enjoyable John Carpenter flicks, for me.  Loved the ending too; quite appropriate for the source themes.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113409/


Quote from: mirth on March 29, 2017, 08:03:30 PM
It's about on par with Event Horizon. If you liked EH, you'll like In the Mouth of Madness.


Ehh.. kinda similar, yes.  More Old Ones, investigation, and insanity theme, less dismembering demon schlock.


Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: OJsDad on March 31, 2017, 06:13:07 AM
Quote from: Sir Slash on March 30, 2017, 09:10:52 PM
Could they possibly use the Black Hole to go back in time and make Pamela Anderson HOT again?  :dreamer:

Are you off your meds or too much time in the sun.  She was never hot. 
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: Barthheart on March 31, 2017, 06:52:33 AM
Quote from: OJsDad on March 31, 2017, 06:13:07 AM
Quote from: Sir Slash on March 30, 2017, 09:10:52 PM
Could they possibly use the Black Hole to go back in time and make Pamela Anderson HOT again?  :dreamer:

Are you off your meds or too much time in the sun.  She was never hot.

Beg to differ sir! Before all the plastic was added on she was quite hot.  :smitten:

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmIQtipH.jpg&hash=94099ab3688196942b64f9586e0c316e59ba5c60)
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg2.rnkr-static.com%2Fuser_node_img%2F50040%2F1000798976%2F870%2Fyoung-pamela-anderson-in-denim-overalls-photo-u1.jpg&hash=bd3555e3c51e460cc95a025c703e90e52553f3a1)
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg1.izismile.com%2Fimg%2Fimg3%2F20100611%2F640%2Fpamela_anderson_was_640_high_03.jpg&hash=f687fc860393c6822c2a7d5f282adecb6a2e6287)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/3d/c7/91/3dc79167ec7214406db387c9d0125bc9.jpg)
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: OJsDad on March 31, 2017, 07:12:09 AM
Ok, BH, you win.  I honestly don't remember her before Baywatch. 
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: Barthheart on March 31, 2017, 07:26:19 AM
She Canadian, from Vancouver BC.... it's my duty to know these things....  :)
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: OJsDad on March 31, 2017, 07:28:59 AM
I still question if Slash is off his meds though. 
Title: Re: Getting The First Pic Of An Event Horizon?
Post by: JasonPratt on March 31, 2017, 08:07:10 AM
Our love for science never ceases to amaze me.  :nerd: