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Title: Dice Trays
Post by: Staggerwing on April 28, 2017, 06:42:01 AM
Soooo... DYI question:

For those of you who have (or have used) dice trays:

What is the minimum edge height you think is still sufficient to keep the dice from 'jumping the fence' during NORMAL tosses. (there's always 'that guy'...)

What about needed area? 8" x "10? More? Could less work for those with limited table space?

What about inner tray surface material? Just basic craft felt? Thin fabric? Thin foam rubber? just wood/MDF/Craftplex? any other possibilities?

Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Nefaro on April 28, 2017, 02:35:24 PM
I think 1.25" depth, from the felt to the rim, is about perfect.  I wouldn't want it to be as low as 1".

Minimum 8"x 8" if you expect to use dice pools.  You can certainly go a bit smaller on this if table space is a big issue and you're using dice the size of the small d6s (12mm?).  But I think below 8" it starts getting noticeably cramped, especially if you're tossing & sorting multiple dice or multiples on the larger side (16+ mm).

From what I've seen of others making their own, just some craft felt is fine for the bottom & maybe the sides if you feel like it. 

Part of the advantage of dice trays is how they quiet your rolls, but still make a little noise.  I think felt has the ideal balance in that respect.

Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: mirth on April 28, 2017, 02:40:43 PM
We were talking about this in the counter clipping thread

https://boardgamegeek.com/image/2246685/thiskidgotmoxie
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Nefaro on April 28, 2017, 02:41:44 PM
Quote from: mirth on April 28, 2017, 02:40:43 PM
We were talking about this in the counter clipping thread

https://boardgamegeek.com/image/2246685/thiskidgotmoxie


Dice trays.. in a counter clipping thread!?

  :hide:
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: mirth on April 28, 2017, 02:44:31 PM
Madness, I know.
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Bison on April 28, 2017, 03:12:23 PM
I looked at some various wooden boxes and shadow boxes at Hobby lobby, I didn't pull the trigger because I'm bringing back a few dice to test out the box.
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: ArizonaTank on April 28, 2017, 05:24:17 PM
I have a 1" barrier.  It is too low.  About 1 in 20 rolls bounce out.
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: bbmike on April 28, 2017, 05:36:57 PM
I like the blue one I bought from Easy Roller Dice (https://easyrollerdice.com/products/dice-tray-11-5-octagon-shaped-with-velvet-liner?variant=23469735751).
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Staggerwing on April 28, 2017, 05:40:45 PM
Thanks for the tips Nef.


Quote from: mirth on April 28, 2017, 02:40:43 PM
We were talking about this in the counter clipping thread

https://boardgamegeek.com/image/2246685/thiskidgotmoxie

i know. I didn't want to derail that thread because it means so much to Barth.  ;)


Quote from: ArizonaTank on April 28, 2017, 05:24:17 PM
I have a 1" barrier.  It is too low.  About 1 in 20 rolls bounce out.

Would 1 & 1/2 inches be enough?

Quote from: bbmike on April 28, 2017, 05:36:57 PM
I like the blue one I bought from Easy Roller Dice (https://easyrollerdice.com/products/dice-tray-11-5-octagon-shaped-with-velvet-liner?variant=23469735751).

That looks nice! How tall is it?



Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: BanzaiCat on April 28, 2017, 05:43:57 PM
The one I have is this one, sans the dice:

https://www.amazon.com/Da-Vinci-Wooden-11-5-Dice/dp/B0010YAEI8/ref=sr_1_8?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1493419300&sr=1-8&keywords=dice+tray

11.5" wide, about 1" deep. Never had issues with dice bouncing out.
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: bbmike on April 28, 2017, 05:48:50 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on April 28, 2017, 05:40:45 PM
Thanks for the tips Nef.


Quote from: mirth on April 28, 2017, 02:40:43 PM
We were talking about this in the counter clipping thread

https://boardgamegeek.com/image/2246685/thiskidgotmoxie

i know. I didn't want to derail that thread because it means so much to Barth.  ;)


Quote from: ArizonaTank on April 28, 2017, 05:24:17 PM
I have a 1" barrier.  It is too low.  About 1 in 20 rolls bounce out.

Would 1 & 1/2 inches be enough?

Quote from: bbmike on April 28, 2017, 05:36:57 PM
I like the blue one I bought from Easy Roller Dice (https://easyrollerdice.com/products/dice-tray-11-5-octagon-shaped-with-velvet-liner?variant=23469735751).

That looks nice! How tall is it?

Don't have it with me but it's almost 2" deep if I recall correctly. I love using it.
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Nefaro on April 28, 2017, 05:50:00 PM
That Easy Roller one looks nice.

I would just prefer one that is around 8" across.  Probably 9" at best. 

Table space is always at a premium.  Even if you have more than enough for your game sprawl, it can still be difficult fitting the larger dice trays close enough, in the middle of everything, with having to lean towards it to read dice after each roll. 

Plus I'd prefer having a couple smaller ones on opposite sides of the table, rather than a bigger one in the middle that everyone has to reach & lean for.




Quote from: Banzai_Cat on April 28, 2017, 05:43:57 PM
The one I have is this one, sans the dice:

https://www.amazon.com/Da-Vinci-Wooden-11-5-Dice/dp/B0010YAEI8/ref=sr_1_8?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1493419300&sr=1-8&keywords=dice+tray

11.5" wide, about 1" deep. Never had issues with dice bouncing out.



I have that one, plus two other different types.


I actually measured that one after this topic came up.  From felt bottom to top lip is ~1.25" depth.  Which is just about perfect as long as you're not slinging a handful of dice from a long distance.
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Nefaro on April 28, 2017, 05:52:37 PM
I've been using this Ultra Pro one more often than the wide-sided wooden ones lately.


https://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Pro-Dice-Rolling-Tray/dp/B01CVKKYZW/


It's too damn long for my tastes, but it fits on the table more economically than the two wooden ones I have (the round one, above, and a slightly smaller hexagonal which is my 2nd fav).  Since it's fairly narrow.


Probably just need to grok the wooden picture frames next time I go to the local Hobby Lobby & see if there are any DIY candidates of my preferred dimensions.
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Jack Nastyface on April 30, 2017, 01:39:01 PM
I made a dice tray recently from stuff I picked up from Michaels (Canadian version of a Hobby Lobby).  You can often get the same stuff at better dollar stores.  The sides are about 1 - 1/2 inch tall.  If they are shorter you get some roll-outs (as mentioned above) and if they are bigger then it sometimes makes it harder for everyone to see the roll out (depending on the size of the table, where they are sitting, etc).

I bought the box (about $5), two sheets of craft foam ($1.25 each) and one sheet of a felt-like cloth ($.50).  I lined the inside walls and bottom with foam (glued with a PVA white glue, like Elmer's) and then lined the bottom with felt.  Total project costs = $7 because I already had white glue.  You can, if you want, remove the lid from the woodbox and turn it into a tray.


(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi919.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad39%2FJack_Nastyface1805%2F17741069_10207196410387512_526351678_n_zpswzbebo7i.jpg&hash=b6d136e4fe01203063fb4b78fd2e097ac65f5feb)
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Staggerwing on April 30, 2017, 01:52:02 PM
^Jack, that is exactly what I was thinking. I found some cheap boxes on Amazon that came in yesterday. I got a few different sizes to try out. Now I have to wait for the felt to arrive. AFA the lid, I was thinking of glueing a small block of wood or some kind of knob to the outside as a prop so that the lid will sit flat when all the way open. That way it can be used as a place to store the extra dice or to keep track of rolls or chits for those games with lots and lots of them. Also less stress on the tiny screw holes for the hinges.
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Jack Nastyface on April 30, 2017, 09:05:12 PM
I like the idea of a block on the lid...think I will try that myself.


Just FWIW...the hobby foam makes the dice rolling a little less noisy, and (as you can see in the picture) since I am using some custom dice from C&C Napoleonics, I want to help preserve the stickers and edges from knocking about.
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: MikeGER on May 01, 2017, 03:31:31 AM
I have this small one from Philos, the tray border is 22mm  deep
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Nefaro on May 01, 2017, 12:40:12 PM
Quote from: MikeGER on May 01, 2017, 03:31:31 AM
I have this small one from Philos, the tray border is 22mm  deep


That looks almost the perfect size. 

Would be nice to have a square or octagonal one that size.  The round ones tend to waste a little space since my maps, boards, etc that they're sitting next to all have straight edges.
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: mirth on May 01, 2017, 01:18:12 PM
I love you nerds :P
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Nefaro on May 01, 2017, 01:18:47 PM
Quote from: mirth on May 01, 2017, 01:18:12 PM
I love you nerds :P


OCD nerds!

:nerd:
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: bbmike on May 01, 2017, 01:55:16 PM
Quote from: mirth on May 01, 2017, 01:18:12 PM
I love you nerds :P

Like you're not going to get a dice tray.  ::)
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: mirth on May 01, 2017, 02:00:30 PM
I'm going to make my own. DIY nerd!
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Nefaro on May 01, 2017, 02:46:46 PM
Quote from: mirth on May 01, 2017, 02:00:30 PM
I'm going to make my own. DIY nerd!



Think I found a box you may want to use for a homemade dice tray, Mirth:




(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AFcSYDImFkI/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Staggerwing on May 01, 2017, 06:43:27 PM
Perfect!
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: mirth on May 01, 2017, 06:59:00 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on May 01, 2017, 02:46:46 PM
Quote from: mirth on May 01, 2017, 02:00:30 PM
I'm going to make my own. DIY nerd!



Think I found a box you may want to use for a homemade dice tray, Mirth:




(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AFcSYDImFkI/hqdefault.jpg)

That's too fancy for me
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Jack Nastyface on May 02, 2017, 01:07:29 PM
^I like it.  It's about 20% cooler.
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Bison on June 07, 2017, 04:06:54 PM
Dice tray project is underway...
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Bison on June 08, 2017, 02:10:30 AM
The dice tray and dice box projects I knocked out today.  The tray is approximately 8" X 8".  It's actually a little smaller than I wanted, but it looks good and works well.  I bought it and the chest box at Hobby Lobby.  The tray was $3 after the daily 40% off one item coupon and the box was another $5 plus $1 for felt.  I had the cork board at home as well as the stain/varnish.  Total cost was less than $10 for the kit and caboodle. The cork is available at Hobby Lobby too and runs between $3-5 depending on what you want.

The dice tray:

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi830.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz227%2FBison36%2Fdice%2520tray%2520empty_zpsixx2owhk.jpg&hash=e045be0318e86c150e4d4ae7a592e95e0e1f4808)

The dice tray with some awesome dice!

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi830.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz227%2FBison36%2Fdice%2520tray%2520with%2520dice_zps1sluaqs3.jpg&hash=c0f1e310d9f655833f9598f1078a1e8a7c1e7209)

Dice Chest:

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi830.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz227%2FBison36%2Fdice%2520box_zpsp63olnhb.jpg&hash=7437d5dc77c0e5065f8a5acc0b199db724101a18)

Dice chest open with all the glory that is a random assortment of dice:

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi830.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz227%2FBison36%2Fdice%2520box%2520open_zpsdi65wxbt.jpg&hash=71bad40d69ca9dd1015de17fa0357f6e599af5e8)

The project together with the Castles and Crusades PHB.  You cannot have all these cool nerd toys without a great game to enjoy playing with them.   ;D

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi830.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz227%2FBison36%2Fthe%2520projects_zpsmxujizp3.jpg&hash=bca00fbb2d435e1fce7a43a767ccf068df7b91ce)



Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 08, 2017, 03:06:27 AM
Quote from: Bison on June 08, 2017, 02:10:30 AM
Dice chest open with all the glory that is a random assortment of dice:
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi830.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz227%2FBison36%2Fdice%2520box%2520open_zpsdi65wxbt.jpg&hash=71bad40d69ca9dd1015de17fa0357f6e599af5e8)
Holy crap Batman!  :2funny:
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Barthheart on June 08, 2017, 05:31:18 AM
Those are awesome Bison! Well done!  O0
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Staggerwing on June 08, 2017, 05:53:20 AM
Nice! What did you use for a stain and sealer?
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Bison on June 08, 2017, 07:30:54 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on June 08, 2017, 05:53:20 AM
Nice! What did you use for a stain and sealer?

It was some one step minwax stain and polyurethane I had from some previous home projects.  Golden oak color.  The directions say it dries in 3 hours, which is true I guess but it needs to cure longer. 
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: mirth on June 08, 2017, 07:32:51 AM
Nice job. I needs to make myself a couple of those.
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Bison on June 08, 2017, 07:33:33 AM
I'm going to make one more as well.
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: mirth on June 08, 2017, 07:34:54 AM
This'll be my post-Origins project.
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Bison on June 08, 2017, 07:43:58 AM
Quote from: mirth on June 08, 2017, 07:34:54 AM
This'll be my post-Origins project.

Make two.  I should have and will fix later.
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: bayonetbrant on June 08, 2017, 08:09:53 AM
Nice looking dice chest.  That might become a summer project for me :)
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: Bison on June 08, 2017, 08:25:33 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on June 08, 2017, 08:09:53 AM
Nice looking dice chest.  That might become a summer project for me :)

Thanks.  It looks cool on the table and RPG shelf. 
Title: Re: Dice Trays
Post by: bayonetbrant on June 08, 2017, 08:41:07 AM
Right now I've got most of my dice in a large green plastic rectangular tower.  You can see all the dice stacked up in there, but it certainly doesn't look remotely cool.  It looks like a rejected prop from a bad 70s sci-fi TV show.