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http://io9.gizmodo.com/judge-dredd-is-getting-his-very-own-live-action-tv-show-1795092525
Oh God Please let this be Karl Urban Dredd good and not Stallone Dredd Crap
Quote from: Con on May 10, 2017, 06:25:58 PM
Oh God Please let this be Karl Urban Dredd good and not Stallone Dredd Crap
+1
..and what is "IM Global Television"?
Wary of that boding well.
Quote from: ArticleWhat we do know is that that IM Global and games studio Rebellion are teaming up for it, and the people at those companies helped develop Battlestar Galactica, Helix, and the 2012 Karl Urban-starring Dredd film.
Hrmm.. okay. Maybe not so bad then. <:-)
http://io9.gizmodo.com/karl-urban-is-in-talks-to-join-the-judge-dredd-tv-show-1797610908
Oh, come on. Sly Stallone's portrayal was pretty darned campy and not TOO far off the mark from the tongue-in-cheek satire of the original JD comics. That Karl Urban movie took the canon far too seriously.
Still, I loved both movies. In fact I just had Stallone's version on this past weekend - hadn't seen it in a while.
I am firmly in the 'Urban' camp. That was a good flick.
Quote from: Sir Slash on August 07, 2017, 06:39:52 PM
I am firmly in the 'Urban' camp. That was a good flick.
Same.
Let's not forget Urban was in Doom.
And will be in Ragnorok as another bad-ass type. As long as the checks keep clearing, I'd keep the tight-faced seething anger too. >:(
Quote from: BanzaiCat on August 07, 2017, 06:43:44 PM
Let's not forget Urban was in Doom.
Let's not forget Rob Schneider was in the Stallone Dredd.
Again. It was in the spirit of the comic. Perhaps too close to the spirit, but the spirit nevertheless.
It's a stretch to say a Rob Schneider comic relief was is in the spirit of the comic.
I just watched it on Netflix (for the first time in 20 years). It's as terrible as I remembered. I felt bad for Diane Lane to have to be in it.
Even Stallone realized how bad it was:
QuoteThirteen years after the release of Judge Dredd, Sylvester Stallone discussed his feelings about the movie in an issue of Uncut (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncut_%28magazine%29) magazine in 2008:
I loved that property when I read it, because it took a genre that I love, what you could term the 'action morality film' and made it a bit more sophisticated. It had political overtones. It showed how if we don't curb the way we run our judicial system, the police may end up running our lives. It dealt with archaic governments; it dealt with cloning and all kinds of things that could happen in the future. It was also bigger than any film I've done in its physical stature and the way it was designed. All the people were dwarfed by the system and the architecture; it shows how insignificant human beings could be in the future. There's a lot of action in the movie and some great acting, too. It just wasn't balls to the wall. But I do look back on Judge Dredd as a real missed opportunity. It seemed that lots of fans had a problem with Dredd removing his helmet, because he never does in the comic books. But for me it is more about wasting such great potential there was in that idea; just think of all the opportunities there were to do interesting stuff with the Cursed Earth scenes. It didn't live up to what it could have been. It probably should have been much more comic, really humorous, and fun. What I learned out of that experience was that we shouldn't have tried to make it Hamlet; it's more Hamlet and Eggs.
He later elaborated:
From what I recall, the whole project was troubled from the beginning. The philosophy of the film was not set in stone – by that I mean "Is this going to be a serious drama or with comic overtones" like other science fiction films that were successful? So a lotta pieces just didn't fit smoothly. It was sort of like a feathered fish. Some of the design work on it was fantastic and the sets were incredibly real, even standing two feet away, but there was just no communication. I knew we were in for a long shoot when, for no explainable reason Danny Cannon, who's rather diminutive, jumped down from his director's chair and yelled to everyone within earshot, "FEAR me! Everyone should FEAR me!" then jumped back up to his chair as if nothing happened. The British crew was taking bets on his life expectancy.
It was a bad movie. A Dredd-ful movie. :P
I'll be the judge of that ;D
What is your verdict, Judge?
The nerd rage is soooo easy to provoke around here. ;D
Quote from: BanzaiCat on August 08, 2017, 05:34:18 AM
The nerd rage is soooo easy to provoke around here. ;D
Yeah, you just have to say stupid things. Super easy!
::)
I stand by my statement. It's not stupid. You might disagree with it, but that doesn't make it stupid.
You're right. It is easy to provoke nerd rage around here!
Mirth: the GrogHeads court jester. ;)
Hrmmm...
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#:-)
Sorry, BC. I'm an Urban-Dreddite.
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*AHEM*
;D
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Quote from: mirth on August 08, 2017, 04:59:57 AM
What is your verdict, Judge?
The sentence is death
For the record - I kind of agree that the Stallone one was in keeping with the comics (iirc). I used to love 2000AD.
However, I thought the Urban film was better.
I think that's because - much like the Marvel and DC stuff - I'm not interested in them keeping with the "tongue in cheek" comic theme.
I want serious, dark stories from these movies. I want them remade, I want them remade well and I want them to be dark and serious.
Stallone was a good choice for the role back then and that could have been a decent movie. It just ended up being terrible.
Demolition Man, released a couple years before the Stallone Dredd, was a much more entertaining movie with Stallone in a similar role.
Quote from: mirth on August 08, 2017, 02:48:04 PM
Stallone was a good choice for the role back then and that could have been a decent movie. It just ended up being terrible.
Demolition Man, released a couple years before the Stallone Dredd, was a much more entertaining movie with Stallone in a similar role.
And even more intentionally comedic than Stallone!Dredd. Yet inarguably much better. Plotting and scene design always makes a difference.
Judge Dredd? What that the one after Wapner?
Yes, but still not as badass as Judge Judy.
You put Judge Judy in Mega City One and I'll camp in line to see it.
Crime would drop to zero overnight.
Just imagine her voice, "I AM THE LAW!"
Quote from: JudgeDredd on August 08, 2017, 02:40:59 PM
I think that's because - much like the Marvel and DC stuff - I'm not interested in them keeping with the "tongue in cheek" comic theme.
I want serious, dark stories from these movies. I want them remade, I want them remade well and I want them to be dark and serious.
I support this message.
Well.. there ARE exceptions. I suppose Guardians of the Galaxy does the light humor pretty well. But the others just make me *sigh* when they try to push the silly too much.
Probably why I've enjoyed Netflix Daredevil (Punisher!) and the more recent Batman flicks most, of those respective IPs. Not only "dark" but done well for the most part. Looks like the same holds for Dredd. Deadpool was the oddball because it's definitely "dark humor", which is also great if the writers can deliver (which they did!).
Seems this might be the first time in years where I can be the forum contrarian again.
I didn't like Dredd at all. There was no real world. There were people shooting up a high rise apartment building, but the world that building was in was largely missing. That might be fine if you enjoy the comics, but being dropped into the story didn't really work for me.
It had 1980's-1990's drugs and maniacs as if it wanted to be retro, but it wanted to be modern too.
"This guy is crazy", "this charming lady has powers that will turn out to be quite convenient", "slow-motion digital effects are trendy so we need some of those", "to avoid people asking questions about the world outside, we'll just lock down the building", "dystopian future, so the cavalry is corrupt". It all felt like watching one set piece move into place after another, with no character depth or explanations as to why certain events were taking place.
Stallone's Dredd wasn't much in terms of cinematic quality, but I found it to be enjoyable to watch as an action flick. If you expected a genuine Judge Dredd movie, I can see why you were disappointed.
Dredd was tedious to watch, not enjoyable at all. Not enough skin on the bones for me.