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Title: GRFS PC edition spotted on shelf!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 24, 2012, 02:29:44 PM
Well, its not supposed to hit retail until Tuesday, 6/26, but I just spotted two copies on the shelf at a bestbuy in Jersey City, NJ. I had to seriously fight the compulsion to buy it as I already have it pre-ordered on steam, and I have the XBOX version too.

Anyway, I love it when a store slips up and starts selling early!
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Post by: Rayfer on June 24, 2012, 03:24:56 PM
I suspect if I have to ask, which I do, that I probably shouldn't.....but what is GRFS?
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Post by: undercovergeek on June 24, 2012, 03:27:30 PM
ghost recon frikking superb or future soldier - which ever your point of view is
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Post by: Michael Dorosh on June 24, 2012, 04:12:53 PM
Quote from: Rayfer on June 24, 2012, 03:24:56 PM
I suspect if I have to ask, which I do, that I probably shouldn't.....but what is GRFS?

Thanks for asking, I didn't know offhand either.
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Post by: Gusington on June 24, 2012, 04:47:04 PM
Neither did I. Waiting to see what everyone's impression is.
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Post by: jomni on June 24, 2012, 05:54:05 PM
Check the console section of the user impressions.
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Post by: Greybriar on June 24, 2012, 06:26:53 PM
Quote from: Rayfer on June 24, 2012, 03:24:56 PM
I suspect if I have to ask, which I do, that I probably shouldn't.....but what is GRFS?

I didn't know what GRFS stood for either.  :-\
Title: Re: GRFS PC edition spotted on shelf!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 25, 2012, 05:54:14 AM
Sorry guys...I was on the road posting from my Blackberry, so I abbreviated.  :(

Anyway, the game rocks on consoles and I'm really looking forward to switching the experience over to PC!
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Post by: joram on June 25, 2012, 07:35:44 AM
Dude what are you doing in my neck of the woods?  There's only one in JC.   I was just at the other end of that shopping complex yesterday buying groceries.
Title: Re: GRFS PC edition spotted on shelf!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 25, 2012, 07:42:18 AM
LoL!  My girlfriend lives in Hoboken. We met some friends in Jersey City for brunch.  A nice little place on Mercer and Grove Street across from Town Hall.  I may have had the best french toast of my life there yesterday.

I always thought you were in Europe for some reason?
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Post by: joram on June 25, 2012, 07:57:00 AM
I was in the UK for awhile where I had little to do but either go to pubs or post on the web.    Posting on the web was usually a bit less destructive to my constitution.  :)   Have been back in the states for a couple years.  Lived in Hoboken briefly but for the most part have lived in JC.  I know Grove Street well, I used to walk down it everyday to go to the Path.   Now, I take the ferry into work. 

If you want another good brunch place in JC, go to a place called Amelia's though sometimes they try to fancy the food up too much.  It's easy to get to from the light rail (stop on essex street).   A really good diner in JC is The Brownstone.  Massive amounts of food, tons of choices.  That would be a bit of a hike to walk, it's on Jersey and Grand though you could take the light rail to Jersey Ave.   Just have to arrive at that place by 9am or you may have to wait.

You might know this one already but a really good brunch place in Hoboken is called 10th and Willow.  Which is appropriately named because that's where it is.   

Anyway, sorry for derailing the topic!  Enjoy GRFS!
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Post by: JudgeDredd on June 26, 2012, 06:08:20 AM
Two things

Wasn't Hoboken in the Mafia game (the first very, very excellent one?)

and

Ghost Recon Future Soldier - please please tell me the AI team mates are superior to the ones on Ghost Recon Advanced Warrior (1 and 2). I reloaded them on Steam after having bought them some time ago and realised why I had left them. Your soldier pals are useless and I end up just leaving them behind or sending them ahead to scout out positions (cannon fodder!) - they really are bad.

So - please tell me the latest iteration has troops that fight back and take appropriate cover

Oh - and I have it on pre-order too thanks to JH and UCG.
Title: Re: GRFS PC edition spotted on shelf!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 26, 2012, 06:55:03 AM
^Its quite possible.  Hoboken was also featured in Max Payne.  Contrary to its portrayal in games, it is a remarkably "hip" little place right on the Hudson with a spectacular view of the City...

The AI squad mates in GRFS are competent and believable.  They have never blown a mission or frustrated me in any way and when used properly, they are lethal killers.
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Post by: JudgeDredd on June 26, 2012, 07:20:46 AM
That is great to hear. The last iteration of this franchise is really frustrating me.
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Post by: JudgeDredd on June 26, 2012, 07:22:36 AM
And re Hoboken -
http://mafiagame.wikia.com/wiki/Hoboken
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Post by: JudgeDredd on June 28, 2012, 01:25:19 AM
It seems this is released now. I've just been playing it.

Unfortunately I can't see how to turn my Ghost. It seems it may be looking for a bloody gamepad. I can't see any settings to tell it specifically to use a mouse - and I shouldn't have to anyway - so in game all I can do is run forward and left and right but the camera stays facing the way my guy was when the mission loaded.

I have only loaded it for a few minutes as it's work time here so I'll give it a proper look later.

If anyone knows how to have the camera follow your ghosts head please let me know - and if there's an option for first person, I think I may prefer that.

Looks sexy - but the issue with movement is very common with console-PC ports (and idiots, if I've missed something or doing something wrong) :-)

It may have something to do with this
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/355588/ubisoft-promises-fix-for-ghost-recon-future-soldier-pc-bug/#
Title: Re: GRFS PC edition spotted on shelf!
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 28, 2012, 01:27:43 AM
Actually - it seems TOTALLY geared to  gamepads. There are references all over the place to RB, RT, A, B etc...even on the manual page!
Title: Re: GRFS PC edition spotted on shelf!
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 28, 2012, 02:21:28 AM
Update

My steering wheel was jacked into the USB hub. Now I knew it was, and I also knew that is a common fault with FPS - but in my defence the times I've seen it before the steering wheel has been plugged in also (powered up) - not just the USB plug in.

Anyway - disconnected that and I can look around now using the mouse.

Looking forward to getting into it tonight now.
Title: Re: GRFS PC edition spotted on shelf!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 28, 2012, 06:06:30 AM
I had the same issue initially with my HOTAS.  Had to unplug it in order to get the mouse detected.
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Post by: JudgeDredd on June 28, 2012, 03:39:00 PM
JH - is this a long game?

It's looking rather short to me. I've already done two areas and when I was looking at achievements or something, it only showed 4?? Given how long I've played for 2 aeas, that seems kind of small.

As for the game itself, I really like the gameplay. However, I'm a bit disappointed about a few things:
1. No first person view - and I haven't totally warmed to the 3rd person yet
2. No commanding your boys...only on synchronised take down
3. No arming your boys
4. No access to keys whilst in game. I always like to ESC and go into the controls page to see what keys I need to use to do various things
5. Real basic walk throughs pretty much all the way through. Almost every action there's a prompt on screen to tell you what key to use. For example, everytime you are at a wall or some other cover, the prompt to press SPACE to use cover comes up. Now - bearing in mind point 4, that's handy initially...but I don't need it ALL the way through the game.

In short - although it has the Ghost Recon feel, it's quite a way away from the other games. It's clearly a console port but actually plays quite well. I do like the gameplay though...I can see me playing this on elite.
Title: Re: GRFS PC edition spotted on shelf!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 28, 2012, 04:34:50 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 28, 2012, 03:39:00 PM
JH - is this a long game?

It's looking rather short to me. I've already done two areas and when I was looking at achievements or something, it only showed 4?? Given how long I've played for 2 aeas, that seems kind of small.

As for the game itself, I really like the gameplay. However, I'm a bit disappointed about a few things:
1. No first person view - and I haven't totally warmed to the 3rd person yet
2. No commanding your boys...only on synchronised take down
3. No arming your boys
4. No access to keys whilst in game. I always like to ESC and go into the controls page to see what keys I need to use to do various things
5. Real basic walk throughs pretty much all the way through. Almost every action there's a prompt on screen to tell you what key to use. For example, everytime you are at a wall or some other cover, the prompt to press SPACE to use cover comes up. Now - bearing in mind point 4, that's handy initially...but I don't need it ALL the way through the game.

In short - although it has the Ghost Recon feel, it's quite a way away from the other games. It's clearly a console port but actually plays quite well. I do like the gameplay though...I can see me playing this on elite.

I don't find it short at all.  I have missions in South America, South Africa, West Africa, the Middle East, all over Russia, etc. There are a lot of missions...just keep playing.

You're not in command, so that is why there are no real command options. This doesn't bother me at all because I find my team AI to be extremely competent.  They do not need to be led from position to position and they don't need to be told when to fire and when to exercise restraint. 

There is a first person mode, but only when you look through your optics.  It wasn't advertised as a FPS, so this doesn't bother me and I'm quite fond of tactical TPS games.
Title: Re: GRFS PC edition spotted on shelf!
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 28, 2012, 04:44:38 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 28, 2012, 04:34:50 PM
I don't find it short at all.  I have missions in South America, South Africa, West Africa, the Middle East, all over Russia, etc. There are a lot of missions...just keep playing.
Good. I just got worried when I saw a list of areas in the achievments.

Good game - just further away from the original franchise than I thought it would be (I didn't read up too much on it). And I agree with the squad members. So much more competent. And if I had the choice between them being more under my control and useless, or as they are now, I'd choose as they are now.
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Post by: JudgeDredd on July 03, 2012, 05:26:14 PM
Turned out much longer than I had suspected - good news. Still not finished it yet.

I'm surprised there's no discussion going on about it...no one else got it? No one interested in it? Too busy playing it?

Gameplay is quite simple and nothing like any of the other games in the series...but I love games with a good story - and this has a decent story. Lots of cool toys. Destructive cover and shooting through cover is cool. Combat feels pretty good.

I'm enjoying it. If I was to rate it on gameplay alone I'd give it 7 out of 10 for being a little too simplistic - but a decent story adds another 1 to it - so 8 out of 10 for me. Also I'm playing it on normal and the combat is "forgiving"...you'll still go down fast if you don't use cover properly. I expect perhaps more enemies and less forgiving combat on tougher gameplay setting.

I've heard lots of people having lots of problems - but I haven't had a single crash.

Edited to say it's been the only game I've fired up since I downloaded it last Thursday.
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Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 03, 2012, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on July 03, 2012, 05:26:14 PM
Turned out much longer than I had suspected - good news. Still not finished it yet.

I'm surprised there's no discussion going on about it...no one else got it? No one interested in it? Too busy playing it?

Gameplay is quite simple and nothing like any of the other games in the series...but I love games with a good story - and this has a decent story. Lots of cool toys. Destructive cover and shooting through cover is cool. Combat feels pretty good.

I'm enjoying it. If I was to rate it on gameplay alone I'd give it 7 out of 10 for being a little too simplistic - but a decent story adds another 1 to it - so 8 out of 10 for me. Also I'm playing it on normal and the combat is "forgiving"...you'll still go down fast if you don't use cover properly. I expect perhaps more enemies and less forgiving combat on tougher gameplay setting.

I've heard lots of people having lots of problems - but I haven't had a single crash.

Edited to say it's been the only game I've fired up since I downloaded it last Thursday.

For me, just a little burned out on FPS games right now....I figure by the time I am in the mood again, it will be much cheaper during a future Steam or Gamersgate sale:)
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Post by: JudgeDredd on July 04, 2012, 03:30:07 PM
Finished the game.

I thoroughly enjoyed it. An FPS with a story - and a good story - always goes down well with me.

As I said above though - it's not Ghost Recon of old...it's an FPS with some fancy kit and a few gameplay gimmicks.

Worth the price though.
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Post by: undercovergeek on July 04, 2012, 03:43:46 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on July 04, 2012, 03:30:07 PM
Finished the game.

I thoroughly enjoyed it. An FPS with a story - and a good story - always goes down well with me.

As I said above though - it's not Ghost Recon of old...it's an FPS with some fancy kit and a few gameplay gimmicks.

Worth the price though.

to the interwebs man - multiplayer time!