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Title: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: mirth on June 08, 2017, 05:27:17 PM
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/11316/us-navy-looking-at-bringing-retired-carrier-uss-kitty-hawk-out-of-mothballs
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: Bison on June 08, 2017, 05:28:48 PM
This is a Russian connspiracy. 
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: mirth on June 08, 2017, 05:29:13 PM
I demand an investigation!
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: bayonetbrant on June 08, 2017, 07:27:27 PM
I demand a cover-up!
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: Steelgrave on June 08, 2017, 07:47:39 PM
I demand, ummmm.....a witty protest sign?
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: GDS_Starfury on June 08, 2017, 08:03:41 PM
well... it runs on steam with steam catapults and the moron in chief likes steam so.........
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: mirth on June 08, 2017, 08:05:43 PM
It's a Steam Conspiracy!
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: GDS_Starfury on June 08, 2017, 08:09:49 PM
well now that Ive actually read the article, Im fully on board with bringing back updated Perry's.
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: mirth on June 08, 2017, 08:10:23 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on June 08, 2017, 08:09:49 PM
well now that Ive actually read the article, Im fully on board with bringing back updated Perry's.

Yep. That would be the really smart move.
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: Con on June 08, 2017, 08:13:41 PM
Good article on the Perrys
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/end-of-the-ghetto-navy-is-in-sight-as-last-usn-frigate-1678669074
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: GDS_Starfury on June 08, 2017, 08:16:08 PM
yup.  the Navy has Burke's coming out its ass and Perry's would be cheaper and perfect for the LCS role.
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: mirth on June 08, 2017, 08:19:27 PM
It was dumb to get rid of them in the first place. They should have been upgraded and kept in service.
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: GDS_Starfury on June 08, 2017, 08:25:25 PM
its a topic in which we share the bitterness.
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: mirth on June 08, 2017, 08:27:53 PM
finally
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: Bison on June 08, 2017, 08:55:19 PM
Its funny how money determines the viability of a great deal of military technology.  Of course, they could spend the $$$ upgrading and refitting all of these ships only to lose funding in a few years and they go on the chopping block again.
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: GDS_Starfury on June 08, 2017, 09:01:57 PM
I am surprised that we only built 51 of the fuckers.
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: Bison on June 08, 2017, 09:12:59 PM
We built a lot of equipment during the cold war that has since been mothballed or retired from service.
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: OJsDad on June 08, 2017, 09:17:40 PM
I read an article a few months ago about how bad the LCS's were for many missions, and immediately thought that an FFG was needed.  Too many people in the Navy are all about high tech gee whiz ships.  I'm not sure that there are that many Perry's available to bring back.  They may need to update the designs and start building new ones. 
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: Gusington on June 08, 2017, 09:20:27 PM
Next they will bring back the Intrepid.
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: OJsDad on June 08, 2017, 09:22:20 PM
With Putin and Russia wanting to be a military power again, I would think they would be looking at subs as being a major tool again.  The Perry's were designed as a counter to that threat.  Brining them back would seem to be a cheap effective move. 
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: Staggerwing on June 08, 2017, 09:31:27 PM
We need a new CV USS Yorktown. The last one is awaiting scrapping, and it's not even a carrier.
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: OJsDad on June 08, 2017, 09:39:51 PM
We need a Montana class BB with 4-6 16" guns, hundreds of missiles, and laser point defense.   :smitten:
Title: Re: Navy Bringing Kittyhawk Out of Mothballs?
Post by: GDS_Starfury on June 08, 2017, 10:28:40 PM
Quote from: OJsDad on June 08, 2017, 09:22:20 PM
With Putin and Russia wanting to be a military power again, I would think they would be looking at subs as being a major tool again.  The Perry's were designed as a counter to that threat.  Brining them back would seem to be a cheap effective move.

Russia cant afford subs and our destroyers and "smaller carriers" can deal with whats out there now, I think.....
I do think our ASW needs some major work but its still pretty fucking good compared to the shitters out there now.