Ron Howard is taking over as director
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-han-solo-movie-ron-howard-steps-direct-1015674
...my mind can't really process that. Uh, I guess he'll make the Falcon look like it's legitimately falling apart in space? "Chewie, we have a problem..."
Opie-Wan may the Force be with you. :-"
Han yelling "Give me back my Wookie!"
Sit on it, Jabba.
He could do a framework plot where an amazingly ill-informed scholar gets swept up in a conspiracy theory that Princess Leia didn't only kiss her brother.
:o
What's more real-life amazing, is that after picking a darling indie director for street cred about his 'vision' whom the producers thought they could bully around (which is the typical rationale for imaginative and talented low-end directors being given the keys to Godzilla-huge franchise staple/boots) -- and then after the director bailed due to the bullying -- the producers chose a veteran director with real and long-running sfx experience (including a respectable adaptation of another Lucas property) making big-budget films. That's a level-headed move.
(Worth noting: Gareth Edwards was eventually quasi-fired from Rogue One himself and a journeyman director hired on reshooting the film and script doctoring. No one of Howard's credentials by far, but this and Han Solo sure set a precedent. Try the cheap street-cred director we might control, then fire him if he rocks the boat too much, finish up with someone more reliable.)
Quote from: Sir Slash on June 22, 2017, 02:54:00 PM
Opie-Wan may the Force be with you. :-"
You throw a lot of groan-worthy one-liners out there, SS, but this one made me LOL. Keep it up sir. O0
Why thank you BC. I could've thrown-in something extra about Andy Skywalker and Threepio looking like Barney's twin brother but no need to push my luck too far here. After all, I want to stay a Grog awhile longer.
QuoteIn his now-infamous meeting with Billy Dee Williams, Danny Glover threw out a huge number of ideas and thoughts about the character of Lando Calrissian. According to Glover, after he said all that, Williams looked at him and said, "Yeah, I don't know about all that. Just be charming."
https://io9.gizmodo.com/billy-dee-williams-gave-simple-perfect-advice-to-donal-1797677889 (https://io9.gizmodo.com/billy-dee-williams-gave-simple-perfect-advice-to-donal-1797677889)
:clap:
After the Super Bowl teaser, I am very unexcited for this :-\ It hasn't taken Disney long to reduce Star Wars to bland mediocrity. Each new movie raises my opinion of the Lucas prequels.
Think I'm going to find copies of the Brian Daley Solo books and re-read those.
Quote from: mirth on February 05, 2018, 09:27:14 AM
After the Super Bowl teaser, I am very unexcited for this :-\ It hasn't taken Disney long to reduce Star Wars to bland mediocrity. Each new movie raises my opinion of the Lucas prequels.
Think I'm going to find copies of the Brian Daley Solo books and re-read those.
Not sure about the increase of stature of the prequels. But it does start leaving me as "meh" for the series in general. Buddy of mine was saying just let it end. I was like no way, Disney spent billions on this, they are going to milk this cow dry.
Quote from: jamus34 on February 05, 2018, 10:42:52 AM
I was like no way, Disney spent billions on this, they are going to milk this cow dry.
Oh hell yeah.
Hard to imagine I would ever say this, but I am feeling burned out on Star Wars.
It didn't have to be that way. Even with one new movie a year. I never felt burned out on the Harry Potter films, or with the Marvel films yet -- a key comparison since Disney has been running that franchise now for much longer than they've had the keys to SW.
Maybe one movie per year was not such a great idea.
Quote from: JasonPratt on February 05, 2018, 10:50:08 AM
It didn't have to be that way. Even with one new movie a year. I never felt burned out on the Harry Potter films, or with the Marvel films yet -- a key comparison since Disney has been running that franchise now for much longer than they've had the keys to SW.
Agreed. I don't have that feeling of weariness with the Marvel films and there have been a lot of more of those from Disney.
It didn't give me a 'thrill-up' either. I think make or break of this movie is who and how well Han is played. You just can't get around this otherwise. I would like to see him pitted against some other bad guys other than Imperials or Seperatists or whatever they're called. Maybe some Space Slavers or a Bounty Hunter gangs or something less predictable. And now maybe I'll get to see if my theory is correct that Yoda is actually Han's father. "Abandoned you I did because a little bastard you were".
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 05, 2018, 12:08:46 PM
Maybe some Space Slavers
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Han_Solo%27s_Revenge
Slavers always make such good targets to beat-up on. :clap:
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 05, 2018, 03:14:51 PM
Slavers always make such good targets to beat-up whip on. :clap:
FTFY.
Saw the trailer - hope the movie lives up to the legend of the character. They don't have a great track record with that so far.
There's a compilation vid on YT with all the new movie trailers that played during the Super Bowl - most of them looked pretty bad. I had to fast forward through the M:I one, and the Jurassic Park one, as well as Red Sparrow (that one's annoying me more and more each time it pops up for some reason).
There's a rumor going around that Kathleen Kennedy was fired from Disney (or at least removed from control over the Star Wars film properties) due to the Last Jedi backlashes and the expecting tanking of Solo.
I frankly take that rumor with a mountain of salt -- Kennedy has a stupidly solid and ancient track record as producer, as well as major Hollywood royalty connections, so from all directions I would expect she's unassailable, and besides the films have made beaucoups of profit (although the toy line was badly mishandled this time around). Disney does not consider TLJ a disaster and she could survive a solo disaster (har).
Still, rumor may be rumor but it's rumor.
Totally on board with Woody Harrelson and Emilia Clarke, but this still looks weak.
And Donald Glover looks great as Lando. I guess I'm not sold on the story or Alden Ehrenreich as Solo.
I don't know about Harrelson in this one. Woody doesn't give me a woody. But it does look better than last nights mess.
Woody was the best part of those stupid Hunger Games movies. He may be Solo's only hope.
Woody did a great job in the first season of True Detective. He's got the chops to pull off whatever he'd like.
Bit over star wars movies after the last movie. Enjoying star wars rebels tv series however and loved the clone wars tv series as well
As for solo. I thought he was kicked out of your the imperial academy after being an excellent student and then feeling sorry for wookies and saving them. I had no idea he wanted to be a shit hot pilot like luke. He was more of a tactics and strategy man to my mind. I am not sure that I like the new bad boy risk taker story. Sounds like a millenial doing whatever the hell he wants and getting rewarded for it. Who knows could be good. But I also have a bad feeling. Solo seems like a complete idiot in this trailer. Another no brains rollercoaster ride?
I don't know if I can watch after lukes character was destroyed, another main character be cut off at the knees. It's like seeing the history of the world re-written. Fingers crossed though right. I will have to see it. Just to see how it all goes.
I like that they're sticking with his Imperial roots. I read the Solo trilogy some time ago and remember his pants with the gold stripe were from his Imperial Academy days.
Lucas wrote that his inspiration for the character was James Dean in Rebel Without a Cause. A wise ass teenager, a loner in a hot car, who has the ability to pull off stupid challenges that pop into his mind. Just like a real teenage boy.
This looks like they took Lucas at his word. And, being a cocky pilot, he looks like a self centered risk taker. From the trailer, it seems like they got that.
I hope this has gotten over whatever issues they supposedly had developing the movie.
Here's the difference between marvel and Star Wars in my mind.
Marvel has literally centuries of source material that Disney can borrow from and use. They change things, sure, but overall they are using the concepts.
With Star Wars they decided to chuck the 3 decades of intermittent source material and come up with their own shit. The fact they they refuse to introduce the Thrawn character in the movies is a huge miss IMO. It also doesn't help with the changes they are making on these spinoff movies mid production.
I really need to read those Thrawn books.
Quote from: jamus34 on February 06, 2018, 09:10:55 AM
The fact they they refuse to introduce the Thrawn character in the movies is a huge miss IMO.
They brought Thrawn into the new canon, so it's still possible he'll show up in a movie. They made him a key part of the Rebels TV show which is probably the best SW Disney has put out so far.
Most of the EU stuff was junk, so it wasn't much of a loss to scrap it imo. Of course, Last Jedi had the story quality of a lame EU novel, so that ain't exactly progress for the franchise.
Quote from: bbmike on February 06, 2018, 09:18:39 AM
I really need to read those Thrawn books.
They're okay, but I wouldn't call them must reads. Zahn gets credit because he was first with new material at a time when Star Wars was moribund. And he made a very cool character with Thrawn.
Honestly though, his books are B-grade material, but that still puts him at the top of most Star Wars EU novelists.
Quote from: mirth on February 06, 2018, 09:21:44 AM
Quote from: bbmike on February 06, 2018, 09:18:39 AM
I really need to read those Thrawn books.
They're okay, but I wouldn't call them must reads. Zahn gets credit because he was first with new material at a time when Star Wars was moribund. And he made a very cool character with Thrawn.
Honestly though, his books are B-grade material, but that still puts him at the top of most Star Wars EU novelists.
I second that - the books are okay. I'd say they're on par with the latest Star Wars movies - not bad, but not great. Thrawn is definitely one of the best characters in it, though. In that case you might want to watch Rebels.
Quote from: mirth on February 06, 2018, 09:21:44 AM
Quote from: bbmike on February 06, 2018, 09:18:39 AM
I really need to read those Thrawn books.
They're okay, but I wouldn't call them must reads. Zahn gets credit because he was first with new material at a time when Star Wars was moribund. And he made a very cool character with Thrawn.
Honestly though, his books are B-grade material, but that still puts him at the top of most Star Wars EU novelists.
But they are Horta free, right?
Quote from: bbmike on February 06, 2018, 09:39:15 AM
Quote from: mirth on February 06, 2018, 09:21:44 AM
Quote from: bbmike on February 06, 2018, 09:18:39 AM
I really need to read those Thrawn books.
They're okay, but I wouldn't call them must reads. Zahn gets credit because he was first with new material at a time when Star Wars was moribund. And he made a very cool character with Thrawn.
Honestly though, his books are B-grade material, but that still puts him at the top of most Star Wars EU novelists.
But they are Horta free, right?
You'll have to find out for yourself ;)
Quote from: mirth on February 06, 2018, 09:21:44 AM
Quote from: bbmike on February 06, 2018, 09:18:39 AM
I really need to read those Thrawn books.
They're okay, but I wouldn't call them must reads. Zahn gets credit because he was first with new material at a time when Star Wars was moribund. And he made a very cool character with Thrawn.
Honestly though, his books are B-grade material, but that still puts him at the top of most Star Wars EU novelists.
I disagree. I think the Zahn trilogy is pretty excellent. The ones
after Zahn are pretty uneven.
I think it's a real testament to Thrawn that 25 years later he still pops up on lists of all-time sci-fi/fantasy villains
I mean I guess Thrawn wouldn't work because it would be unlikely he would be willing to serve under Snoke. He for damn sure wouldn't bend a knee for Ren.
Disney are a bunch of arrogant idiots who threw Star Wars into the toilet. There is no way I'm going to waste money on any more star wars films from them. I shall only see the Han Solo movie seven times.
^ Yeah! That'll teach 'em!
Quote from: bayonetbrant on February 06, 2018, 09:56:57 AM
I disagree. I think the Zahn trilogy is pretty excellent. The ones after Zahn are pretty uneven.
The ones after Zahn are mostly awful to the point of not being readable.
The Zahn books are readable, but I do not consider them excellent. They are above average Star Wars books where the average is pretty bad.
Quote from: mirth on February 06, 2018, 12:23:51 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on February 06, 2018, 09:56:57 AM
I disagree. I think the Zahn trilogy is pretty excellent. The ones after Zahn are pretty uneven.
The ones after Zahn are mostly awful to the point of not being readable.
The Zahn books are readable, but I do not consider them excellent. They are above average Star Wars books where the average is pretty bad.
why do you hate freedom?
Even Shadows of Empire is a mediocre book and that got the full treatment from Lucas - games, comics, toys, a soundtrack album. It was basically a Star Wars movie without the actual movie. It was a middling book though.
Quote from: bayonetbrant on February 06, 2018, 12:29:07 PM
Quote from: mirth on February 06, 2018, 12:23:51 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on February 06, 2018, 09:56:57 AM
I disagree. I think the Zahn trilogy is pretty excellent. The ones after Zahn are pretty uneven.
The ones after Zahn are mostly awful to the point of not being readable.
The Zahn books are readable, but I do not consider them excellent. They are above average Star Wars books where the average is pretty bad.
why do you hate freedom?
>:D
The Thrawn trilogy (which was named something else that I don't recall offhand, but there are good reasons why they're unofficially known as the Thrawn trilogy now) was also, once upon a time, the officially sanctioned canonical stories for what would have otherwise been Eps 7-9.
I understand not making them, since the original actors would have been far too old (out of makeup anyway), and so would have at least required recasting, which... man, talk about a fan backlash landmine... But still. Have Zahn write your stories if not your scripts and pay him generously to do so. This isn't rocket science.
(The sfx are, I suppose, rocket science in several ways. But Lucasfilm and/or Disney and/or ILM have the equivalent of tons of rocket scientists to work on those. Doing quite well, too.)
Quote from: mirth on February 06, 2018, 12:32:27 PM
Even Shadows of Empire is a mediocre book and that got the full treatment from Lucas - games, comics, toys, a soundtrack album. It was basically a Star Wars movie without the actual movie. It was a middling book though.
The comic wasn't bad. The rest of it was.
The artwork on the Dark Empire comics was excellent. The story on Dark Empire II was as bad as the artwork.
Quote from: JasonPratt on February 06, 2018, 12:34:49 PM
The Thrawn trilogy (which was named something else that I don't recall offhand, but there are good reasons why they're unofficially known as the Thrawn trilogy now)
Heir to the Empire
I would have been fine with Zahn writing screenplays. I like Zahn and I appreciate the contributions he has made to SW. He certainly could have done better than what JJ Abrams or Rian Johnson have done with the franchise.
I read them when they came out, so it's been a while. Maybe I need to re-read it. I remember being underwhelmed with it overall except for some parts that were interesting. Actually been wanting to re-read it since the prequel trilogy and it's focus on the Stormtrooper clones - was wondering how close to each other they are, if at all.
The thing I really give Zahn credit for is re-building fan interest at a time when it was pretty much dead. After Jedi, Lucas felt like he was done with Star Wars and very little happened until Zahn's books came along. I may not think they are great books, but fan interest absolutely exploded around them.
Zahn kinda brought Star Wars back from the dead and the renewed fan interest eventually led Lucas to make the prequels (for better or worse).
To an extent. West End Games helped keep SW alive a lot with the RPG they developed.
Quote from: BanzaiCat on February 06, 2018, 01:38:37 PM
To an extent. West End Games helped keep SW alive a lot with the RPG they developed.
That was definitely some of the best Star Wars content available in the years immediately after RotJ. Heck, it's still some of the best Star Wars content ever made. A lot of stuff out of the source books eventually made it into canon.
I loved some of those sourcebooks and modules - they were fun to read, even if I never got them to the table. My game group at the time were asshats.
This, I did not know:
QuoteLucasfilm considered the West End Games' Star Wars sourcebooks so authoritative that when Timothy Zahn was hired to write what became the Thrawn trilogy, he was sent a box of West End Games Star Wars books and directed to base his novel on the background material presented within
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars%3A_The_Roleplaying_Game#Development
I guess I just hate the idea of Han being a character that I would consider a dick. Han being just an arrogant gifted shit really would be a let down for me. I wanted him to be an responsible officer cadet that realised how bad the empire was and saved the wookies while escaping... then became a rogue in order to survive and avoid the empire. Eventually we see some of his true responsible self come back in episode IV although some of that rogue remains, that need to stay away and rely on himself. That is the story I wanted. Instead the children may get the message from what is essentially modern day "folk lore" that it's ok to be an arrogant shit and go around boosting cars, running scams and creating hell for absolutely no good reason other than that you "can". There will be a lot of emotion and then some rudimentary explanation one liners. The movie basically running on getting high on thrills and risk taking because.... he just magically manages to "reflex" his way out of things even though he is not paying attention. No effort, no thinking... just emotion for big rewards. Han seemed to be everybodies favourite character, the male lead. I wonder if this movie will be designed to "emasculate" him and turn him into a brainless idiot with an attitude.
^I wouldn't worry. Look at how well they handled Luke's character in the last movie. :hide:
I predict Hortas will be added to the next Star Wars movie.
As long as they are strong, female leading Hortas I'm in.
Quote from: mirth on February 06, 2018, 06:58:56 PM
I predict Hortas will be added to the next Star Wars movie.
Force no with I.
^lmao
We can't call them 'Hortas' anymore, that's offensive. We have to call them, "Prostitutes". Or, "Working Girls". Only bad Rap Artists are allowed to call them, 'Hortas' and that's only if they're from south of the border. Or you pick them up outside a Taco Bell. :coolsmiley:
http://variety.com/2018/film/columns/star-wars-film-universe-game-of-thrones-weiss-benioff-white-creators-1202689891/
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-why-arent-filmmakers-as-inclusive-as-universe-1082736
Quote from: mirth on February 08, 2018, 07:45:19 AM
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-why-arent-filmmakers-as-inclusive-as-universe-1082736
QuoteWhy Aren't 'Star Wars' Filmmakers as Inclusive as Its Universe?
OK, I give up. Why aren't they?
Need more Wookie directors.
Quote from: mirth on February 08, 2018, 08:47:51 AM
Need more Wookie directors.
Chewbacca, post-haircut
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Peter_Jackson_SDCC_2014.jpg/1200px-Peter_Jackson_SDCC_2014.jpg)
^ha!
I'd love to see a Star Wars movie by the Wachowskis.
Quote from: mirth on February 08, 2018, 09:55:37 AM
I'd love to see a Star Wars movie by the Wachowskis.
Centered on post-transition Bobette Fett.
As long as it's The Matrix Wachowskis and not Matrix 2 or 3 Wachowskis.
Quote from: mirth on February 08, 2018, 09:55:37 AM
I'd love to see a Star Wars movie by the Wachowskis.
Or the Coen brothers.
The Big Solo.
"Careful, man, there's a Corellian freighter here!"
How many F-bombs could they drop in an R-rated 'The Big Solo'? ;D
(https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/daily-morning-awesomeness-35-photos-1310.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&w=600)
R2-Does this exo-skeleton make my ass look fat? Sorry, couldn't resist.
Looks like fun.
Yeah, that's the best looking trailer so far.
Woody Harrelson! :D It's gotta be good.
It does look good, but so did I when I was 6. The Mouse still has time to screw the pooch.
I'm hoping Ron Howard still knows how to make a good movie.
As good as the trailers (sort of) look, industry buzz is that the original cut of the film was a toxic dumpster fire.
Then again, so was the original Star Wars, so... where's Lucas' ex-wife? Pay her all the money she wants. Give her top billing. :bd:
Funny! O0
I'm hopeful because Ron Howard picked up the pieces so well for Cocoon.
It was a mess and they gave it to him to fix. Course that was thirty years ago.
Poor Robert Zemeckis was devastated and only felt better after amking Back to the Future.
I don't expect much from here on out.
I've had faith in Opie ever since he and Gomer caught the thief who was stealing Aunt Bea's pies off her back porch. Good Man. :clap:
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That pretty much says it all.
Early reviews are reviewing! -- faces on some review snapshots do not look hopeful. :hide:
Then there's RLM's preliminary joke non-review. >:D
(No spoilers here because this isn't really a review, it's a joke video about them faking a review early for the views.)
Not too surprised, and yet the first 1:25 sure sounds like he couldn't give the slightest poot for it.
Glad to hear it doesn't suck and might be a winner. It's on my list now.
Voxis "Professor Tosspot" review. :2funny:
(spoilers)
(Edited for repost of video - probably some chickenshit copyright complaint on the original)
Saw it yesterday afternoon with Bro. I'll probably save the Fraternally Anticipated Questions non-spoiler review for later (other things to do this morning), but we both liked it quite a lot, and I'm someone who was highly disappointed and endlessly annoyed by TLJ.
The internet backlash against Solo is, in this case, overblown I think, and really just a continuing backlash from TLJ.
Solo left alone at the box office
http://variety.com/2018/film/box-office/solo-a-star-wars-story-box-office-deadpool-2-avengers-infinity-war-1202823304/
https://twitter.com/ErikKestner/status/1000775412375572480
^Lol'd.
Solo deserves better than that, though. Easily on par with Rogue One. Perhaps not surprisingly, since the Kasdans were heavily involved in the scripts of both films (and received sole writing credit for Solo.)
Star Wars fatigue has set in. Even my kids aren't clamoring to see Solo.
Yeah I'm not wasting my time or money on this one.
Not surprised considering the last movie they put out. I'll see this one but it might be my last.
Allow me then to be of help with my patented non-spoilery FAQy format review:
DID YOU GO INTO THIS FILM WITH TREPIDATION THANKS TO THE LAST JEDI AND THE GODAWFUL DRAMA AROUND THE MAKING OF THIS FILM?
Yes, O fictional voice in my head. I did. If my brother hadn't wanted to go see it, I might have skipped it until, gosh, who knows when. I saw Transformers 5 at least a year after its release, and several months after I received its Blu completely free for Christmas. This, by the way, turned out to be a mistake. I was reasonably entertained by T5, and curious to see a grand finale (which may or may not ever come now).
ARE YOU COMPARING SOLO'S QUALITY TO THE MOST RECENT MICHAEL BAY TRANSFORMERS FILM?!?
No, Solo is still arguably better than that, don't worry.
BETTER THAN THE LAST JEDI?
Parsecs better. Kind of a miracle considering its production history, I know.
PARSECS ARE A DISTANCE, NOT A TIMEFRAME, BUT EVIDENTLY YOU KNOW THAT, UNLIKE GEORGE LUCAS WHEN HE WROTE STAR WARS (tm).
The Kasdans, for whatever reason, received sole (though not solo, har) screenwriting credit on this film, and that helps a lot. They actually retconned that dumb offhand remark from what's now called Ep 4, about making the Kessel Run in 13 parsecs, so that it makes total sense.
HOW!?!!?
By spoilers.
OKAY FINE.
I mean that somewhat literally.
INTRIGUING.
I know, right? It's like an elder Lovecraftian god got involved!
HA HA H-- WAIT, WHAT? THAT ANALOGY MADE NO SENSE...
I mean that somewhat literally.
ARE THOSE THE TENTACLE THINGS FROM THE TRAILER?!
Any inference you draw from my coy teasing non-spoilers is yours to make and--
BECAUSE WE RECALL RED LETTER MEDIA MAKING FUN OF PREDICTING WHAT THE TRAILER AND THE FILM WOULD INVOLVE, AND THAT SEEMS TO INVOLVE THE KESSEL RUN!
The RLM guys were quite correct on many things, and actually didn't go far enough with their mocking guesses.
LIKE HOW?! AND CAN YOU REALLY RESPECT A FILM THAT SEEMS DESIGNED TO FULFILL A SET OF SATIRE VIDEOS BY RLM!?
I'm as surprised as the voices in the head about this, but yes I can! However, I will spoil a detail where I thought the filmmakers went way too far trying to cram in callbacks. The stupid metallic dice.
OH. MY. GOD. THOSE THINGS ANNOY OUR EVERY LAST URBANITY!
For a minor bit of set decoration that no one called the slightest bit of attention to in the original SW, and which played no part of anything afterward, and which played a truly retarded part of The Last Jedi simply in order to spoof the audience and then which went on beyond their original spoofy purview to somehow make even less anti-sense in context (...or, uh, more anti-sense... even moar less sense...) I cringed the moment the camera introduced them with a lingering fond zoom-in. Before we even see not-Jack-Black's face as Solo. I had a bad feeling about that.
AS EVERY SANE HUMAN BEING WOULD!
The camera kept showing them off during the opening scene, too. But wait! The true insanity has not been revealed!
...DOES THIS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE ELDER LOVECRAFTIAN GOD?!
... ..... not in the film, no, but if someone made a joke about Disney as a corporation here, I'd try to laugh.
OKAY THEN!
The film not only tries to establish, retroactively, for the sake of The Last Jedi, how important those fake dice are, but ten minutes into the film the dice are left behind and are never once seen again.
THAT IS A MOST IMPRESSIVE DISPLAY OF SHAMELESS AND MISGUIDED PANDERING!
Your ironic Darth Vader impression is apt. To be fair, my memory keeps trying to insist I might have seen them hung in the Falcon's cockpit at the end of the film, but I can't distinguish that from bitter imagination, so -- there's literally no reason, in the film, for them to be there during that scene, even if I'm not imagining it, so it doesn't matter. It remains a shamefur dispray.
DO RACIST-SOUNDING ACCENTS SHOW UP IN THE FILM?!
...um, now that you mention it, I think they might, but not so in-my-face that I remember clearly. That sort of thing only bothers me when I can't understand the dialogue, but I know other people are annoyed by it, so good question, thanks.
DOES DARTH VADER SHOW UP IN THE FILM, OR WOULD THAT BE A SPOILER IF YOU SAID YES OR NO ONE WAY OR ANOTHER?
Yes.
...WAIT, THAT ANSWER COULD MEAN ANYTHING!
True.
WE'RE ONLY ASKING BECAUSE THIS FILM SHOULD TAKE PLACE DURING VADER'S MID-LIFE PER SE.
A reasonable expectation to see him, then, I agree. I mean, considering that this film is fan-bait and reference-heavy, not that it makes sense for a small-time smuggler to get involved with a dark side force using Sith Lord somehow.
ALSO SUPPOSEDLY THERE'S A SECRET CAMEO TO MAKE FANS SQUEE, SO--
Oh, that! As a matter of fact, the cameo makes sense, and was squee-worthy, although only in the much larger context of what does and doesn't count as "canon" nowadays. Bro was both surprised, impressed, and absolutely confused about the secret cameo. I was a little less confused but only because I just happened to have picked up a little context of expanded canon over recent years.
...WELL, THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE DARTH VADER...
This character does not sound like Darth Vader, true.
...IS IT C-3P0? MARK HAMILL RATHER BRATTILY SPOILED THAT HE'S IN THE FILM, CONTINUING HIS STREAK OF BEING IN EVERY STAR WARS FILM, YOU KNOW.
I know. I'm sure I saw Anthony Daniels in the film, and Bro and I confirmed he was in it it during the cast scroll in the credits. Warwick Davis, however, was lamentably miscast.
...WHAT?!
I mean, he's clearly a fine actor, and a role could have been written for him, and maybe it will be if this film gets a sequel (which it might), but he only has one speaking line. It's a damned shame. Nice to see he's responsible for jump-starting the rebellion, but even then not primarily responsible--
WHAT!?!
Look, it's a long story, just see the movie.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS MOVIE IS UTTER TRIPE!
No, I'm sorry, I know I was making it sound awful from my sardonic commentary there, but it isn't tripe. It's... well, except for the lead 'human' actors being very second-rate, I'd kind of put it up near the top of the films. It makes more sense overall than Rogue One, although it doesn't look quite as sharp -- nor as sharp as Force Awakens, but I'd rank it solidly over that. For a pandery reference film, it's more original than ForcA.
SO WOULD YOU GO SEE IT AGAIN IN THEATERS?!?
No, but only because the settings are so muddy and dark and dreary (for the most part) that I often had trouble seeing what was going on. I expect it will look better at home on Blu, and unlike TLJ I'm ready to pre-order this thing!
HUH! BUT YOU GRIT YOUR TEETH HAVING TO ENDURE RADICAL-LEFT CULTURAL PROPAGANDA PRETENDING IT'S STILL THE COUNTERCULTURE REBELLING AGAINST TYRANNY!
True, and I don't exonerate the whole franchise (especially the original trilogy) for its role in this never-ending mess. However...
BUT THIS FILM HAS A FEMINIST ROBOT!
...kinnnnd of but not exactly, but also yeah an activist droid...
WHOSE NAME IS LEET! LIKE VIDEO-GAMER "LEET"SPEAK!
This is a production joke, she isn't called that in the film. I actually liked her character a lot. She brings out the series' long-running but barely-visible acidic criticism of the main characters for treating clearly-sentient androids as slaves (or even worse than slaves sometimes), and there are actual consequences for this in the story. I was impressed.
OUR... OUR MINDS ARE DYING!!
The fictional voices in my head might do well to recall that I'm not really as deplorable as the Clintons would like to pretend I am. ;)
BUT LANDO IS A PANSEXUAL! THE PRODUCERS THEMSELVES MAKE A BIG DEAL ABOUT THIS IN THEIR MARKETING!
First, it actually wouldn't bother me much if he was: he's meant to be a sleazy playa', so, sure, why not, as long as I'm not expected to watch it. It would be a bit of a stretch but within his established character range.
Second, though -- it isn't in the film. I mean, at all. He's a ladies man, who flirts with females, but not really with non-humanoid females, and that's it. One of his friends quips that he's flirting with Han, but that's clearly delivered like an annoyed fellow-military joke. L3-37 (who likes to throw innuendos around for fun) flirts with him, but not really vice-versa -- and Lando seems annoyed by it. "Leet" confesses privately that she has romantic feelings for Lando, but is also super-clear that he doesn't reciprocate them: they're just good friends. It's a genuinely touching character moment, at least for me.
And what does "pansexual" even mean in this context anyway? Lando likes Twi'lek girls?! EVERYONE IN STAR WARS LIKE THEM! They're designed to pander to most male fans, too! That doesn't mean every fan who thinks Twi'lieks are hot, are "pansexual". There are slinky hot alien humanoids in most or all of the films (possibly excluding Eps 4 and 5, I can't recall for sure. I mean originally, they're added to the special additions.) This isn't a groundbreaking radical-left representational achievement. This is cheap promotional blather. Anyone going to the films hoping for an identity politics agenda will be disappointed, or seeing things not there (at least in this regard). Maybe this was in the original footage but scrapped when the director of freaking Da Vinci Code came on board? -- but I find that unlikely.
... ....... WHAT THE HELL IS A TWI-LICK?!
sigh.
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...OH.
I included a small sample in case some of the links ever break down. For exhibition's sake. I mean illustration. Of what I mean. By Twi'lek.
...OH MY.
Congratulations. You are now exactly as pansexual as Lando Calrissian in the new Star Wars film. You may signal your progressive superior virtue now.
...ARE YOU SURE THOSE AREN'T STAR TREK?!
sigh.
HEY! -- IS EMMA WATSON IN THIS FILM AS A TWI-HARD?!
No, this is just the internet. ...well, maybe not. I'm pretty sure that's photoshopped, but stars have been doing uncredited cameos in Star Wars for a while, so, who knows.
THIS IS BY FAR YOUR BEST REVIEW EVER!
I like to think I'm just as insightful and incisive in all my reviews, but... this is because of the photos, isn't it?
Now THAT'S a Prattian post! O0
If you look close, Jabb's got a woody. Or a Hutt-On which ever you prefer.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/27/movies/solo-a-star-wars-story-sputters-at-box-office.html
Quote from: bbmike on May 27, 2018, 04:36:00 PM
Not surprised considering the last movie they put out. I'll see this one but it might be my last.
First Star Wars since the original release that I haven't seen on opening day/weekend. In this case more so since I was traveling, but really haven't missed doing it. I'll still see it probably within the next week or so but very strange that I haven't had the same desire as in the past. Not sure if it because of this specific movie or whether too much Star Wars now...not sure. I lean more towards it being this movie itself because I just don't see "solo" in the actor playing him....actually kind of annoys me from the trailers and commercials:)
Never, not once, did I 'see' him as Han Solo. In my estimate this is the biggest weakness of the film.
I have an unconfirmed theory that in the original shots he tried to act like Harrison Ford playing Solo, and it was so dreadful that this was a big reason for the reshoot, where after being given some acting lessons (that part's definitely true) he was directed (by Ron Howard) in reshoots to just be a nice woobie ingenue supposedly growing into being Han Solo. Which worked relatively better.
Relatively.
Quote from: Sir Slash on May 27, 2018, 10:40:41 PM
If you look close, Jabb's got a woody. Or a Hutt-On which ever you prefer.
Yeah, I'm not looking any close at that. :buck2:
Quote from: JasonPratt on May 27, 2018, 06:22:08 PM
The Kasdans, for whatever reason, received sole (though not solo, har) screenwriting credit on this film, and that helps a lot. They actually retconned that dumb offhand remark from what's now called Ep 4, about making the Kessel Run in 13 parsecs, so that it makes total sense.
Wasn't it 'less than 12 parsecs'?
It's likely Solo will be a money loser for Disney
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/will-dismal-solo-box-office-cause-disney-rethink-star-wars-strategy-1115233
I'll be seeing it this weekend with my kids and I'm sure I'll enjoy it (likely more than TLJ), but it certainly didn't take The House of Mouse long to drive this franchise into the ground.
I've said it before, the Lucas prequels are looking increasingly better.
Saw it yesterday with a buddy and we both liked it. Good movie not a great one but it worked OK. Opie-Wan threw in a lot of action and good special effects and the scenes of Han and Chewy's first meet along with the Millienium Falcon's first scene were worth seeing. But it came-up short in the attempts at humor mostly and sadness at the loss of film characters. The actor who played Han did his best and wasn't to far off the mark but was a little too much good-guy for my tastes. Not a bad movie, I'd put it above The Last Jedi, below The Force Awakens, and about even with Rogue One. One MAJOR plot hole I'll note in the 'Spoilers' thread. I'd give it a 7 outta 10.
Quote from: Staggerwing on May 28, 2018, 01:21:45 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on May 27, 2018, 06:22:08 PM
The Kasdans, for whatever reason, received sole (though not solo, har) screenwriting credit on this film, and that helps a lot. They actually retconned that dumb offhand remark from what's now called Ep 4, about making the Kessel Run in 13 parsecs, so that it makes total sense.
Wasn't it 'less than 12 parsecs'?
...actually, yeah. I confirmed that a few minutes ago. That makes the situation weird, because it's like the writers of this film remembered it being 13 parsecs, and THAT'S what they focus on -- and then shortly afterward he's rounding it down to 12 parsecs = "less than 13 parsecs". But not to less than
12 parsecs. Maybe the writers were going for the idea that he keeps making it shorter in talking about it over the years? :crazy2:
I thought it was ok.
It had lots of obscure refrences, both to the current animated/comic canon and the old EU. It makes a lot of the story lost on general film only audiences, and that's a weakness to me.
I didn't connect with the leads. I really like Donald Glover, but his Lando came off as a comic parody to me. Erenriech wasn't the right choice for Han.
I felt Chewie and Beckett were the best characters in the movie. Any point when Chewie and Han were working together was awesome. But no, not a lot of wow moments. I felt, just meh.
Not a badly made movie, though you can tell where Howard took over from Lord and Miller. Felt like a film tearing itself from comedy to serious to comedy.
Don't hate it, but don't love it. Feels like sort of a footnote. There was better stuff in Clone Wars and Rebels.
I saw it today. I wasn't planning on going but the weather was crap here today and I had nothing else going on so a friend and I went. I actually enjoyed it quite a bit. I agree that the casting was off but I actually didn't mind the guy playing Han too much. I thought Emilia Clarke was the weakest part, especially in the very beginning when she was supposed to be all innocent and doe-eyed.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on May 31, 2018, 07:44:30 PM
I saw it today. I wasn't planning on going but the weather was crap here today and I had nothing else going on so a friend and I went. I actually enjoyed it quite a bit. I agree that the casting was off but I actually didn't mind the guy playing Han too much. I thought Emilia Clarke was the weakest part, especially in the very beginning when she was supposed to be all innocent and doe-eyed.
You just can't get the mental picture of her in GoT outta your head ;D
I was disappointed. I thought we were going to see what Chewy looked like before he had hair.
Quote from: Sir Slash on May 31, 2018, 10:04:26 PM
I was disappointed. I thought we were going to see what Chewy looked like before he had hair.
MY EYES! MY EYES! :hide:
Not even interested in this movie. I think the issues it had did not instill much confidence.
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Quote from: Sir Slash on May 29, 2018, 09:49:30 AM
Saw it yesterday with a buddy and we both liked it. Good movie not a great one but it worked OK. Opie-Wan threw in a lot of action and good special effects and the scenes of Han and Chewy's first meet along with the Millienium Falcon's first scene were worth seeing. But it came-up short in the attempts at humor mostly and sadness at the loss of film characters. The actor who played Han did his best and wasn't to far off the mark but was a little too much good-guy for my tastes. Not a bad movie, I'd put it above The Last Jedi, below The Force Awakens, and about even with Rogue One. One MAJOR plot hole I'll note in the 'Spoilers' thread. I'd give it a 7 outta 10.
Agreed on all points, except that I'd give it an 8.
^I'd give it an 8 as well.
On a scale of Yarna d'al' Gargan to Bikini Leia it's a solid Mon Mothma.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on June 03, 2018, 06:38:56 PM
On a scale of Yarna d'al' Gargan to Bikini Leia it's a solid Mon Mothma.
I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating space crackers
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Meanwhile, allow us to envision a world...
...a world where the Solo prequel film, or the sequel to it perhaps at least...
...featured a green cartoon rabbit alien as his sidekick.
We all know we would go pay to see that movie (or most any adaptation from the Marvel comics run), right?
The adventures of Jaxxon? Most beloved character in the EU? Heck yeah I'd watch that.
Those old comics were good fun.