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Title: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: gameleaper on August 28, 2017, 02:40:04 AM
In space you need some sort of power, but fuel runs out. gravity does not!, if you think like a submarines diving and submerging with air by making its tanks heavy or light. the idea I'm suggesting is making an outer surface that enlarges like a big balloon that would be attreacted by gravity. its well known large bodies in space atrrack, even bit ships in our ports attract each other.

to be clear I'm saying increase the surface area, the balloon would still have a vacume inside it, you could turn on gravitational pull by enlarging an object in space, the reduce it to carry on in the desired path

I'm not sure how big the balloon would need to be, but its my best idea so far on space propulsion.
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: MikeGER on August 28, 2017, 03:11:13 AM
you would have to fill the tanks with a material that is lighter then nothing (vacuum) so a strange material which has somehow a 'negative mass' so it floats in a gravity well ...

where are you locate?  with a little luck already near on the westcoast 
if you have some free time jump in your car or get a bus ticket and visit 2311 Los Robles Avenue /Pasadena wait for Sheldon Cooper from that well known reality show BBT to leave the apartment house and discuss that material research progress with him, he the one who might can help you progress the idea O0 ...but please don't tell him i gave you the address :-X
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: gameleaper on August 28, 2017, 03:16:46 AM
Quote from: MikeGER on August 28, 2017, 03:11:13 AM
you would have to fill the tanks with a material that is lighter then nothing (vacuum) so a strange material which has somehow a 'negative mass' so it floats in a gravity well ...

where are you locate?  with a little luck already near on the westcoast 
if you have some free time jumpt in your car or get a bus ticket and visit 2311 Los Robles Avenue /Pasadena wait for Sheldon Cooper from the well known reality Show BBT to leave the apartment house and discuss that material research progress with him, he can help you progress the idea O0 ...but please don't tell him i gave you the addrees :-X

sorry I was not clear, you just increase the size of the ballon filled with vacume, not air tight, what I'm saying is increase its surface size.
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: gameleaper on August 28, 2017, 03:23:16 AM
PS: if you drop a feather and a rock in a vacume the fall at the same speed, so weight is not relavant possably.
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: MikeGER on August 28, 2017, 03:24:50 AM
 the balloon hull always have a weight, isn't it ?  and that pull the balloon filled with nothing down, regardless how big the balloon is

Try to get an appointment with Mr Cooper, he might take a few minutes to listen to you if he find the concept Fascinating!
   
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: gameleaper on August 28, 2017, 03:25:12 AM
Mike I loved all those episode of friends, thanks for the smile. I think I laughed in every show
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: gameleaper on August 28, 2017, 03:26:43 AM
Quote from: MikeGER on August 28, 2017, 03:24:50 AM
the balloon hull always have a weight, isn't it ?  and that pull the balloon filled with nothing down, regardless how big the balloon is

Try to get an appointment with Mr Cooper, he might take a few minutes to listen to you if he find the concept Fascinating!


in a vacume there is no weight . all things move at the same speed
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: gameleaper on August 28, 2017, 03:33:19 AM
Sheldon just thinks he is the most intelligent, steven H read this thread :)
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: trailrunner on August 28, 2017, 04:49:23 AM
Nevermind.
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: Staggerwing on August 28, 2017, 06:15:23 AM
In space no one can hear you groan.
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: mirth on August 28, 2017, 06:22:23 AM
Quote from: MikeGER on August 28, 2017, 03:24:50 AM
Try to get an appointment with Mr Cooper

Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 28, 2017, 11:08:03 AM
Quote from: trailrunner on August 28, 2017, 04:49:23 AM
Nevermind.

This made me LOL more than anything else. If Trailrunner has to hold back...  ;D
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: Ubercat on August 28, 2017, 12:02:28 PM
Gameleaper,

there is still MASS in space. Gravity needs MASS, not weight. Your space balloons won't have much mass. It won't matter how big you blow them up.
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: gameleaper on August 28, 2017, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: Ubercat on August 28, 2017, 12:02:28 PM
Gameleaper,

there is still MASS in space. Gravity needs MASS, not weight. Your space balloons won't have much mass. It won't matter how big you blow them up.

the planets and moons are different MASS but there all attracted by the gravity effect, we don't know really what attracts large objects together eg: ships in a harbour will move towards eachother but we don't know why. Maybe the balloon may need to be filled with gas and then compressed to reduce if MASS is important.
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: Pete Dero on August 28, 2017, 01:52:04 PM
Quote from: gameleaper on August 28, 2017, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: Ubercat on August 28, 2017, 12:02:28 PM
Gameleaper,

there is still MASS in space. Gravity needs MASS, not weight. Your space balloons won't have much mass. It won't matter how big you blow them up.

Ships in a harbour will move towards eachother but we don't know why

Ships alongside each other are pulled together because of the flow of water between the ships which causes a decrease in pressure.


Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: gameleaper on August 28, 2017, 02:04:51 PM
Quote from: Pete Dero on August 28, 2017, 01:52:04 PM
Quote from: gameleaper on August 28, 2017, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: Ubercat on August 28, 2017, 12:02:28 PM
Gameleaper,

there is still MASS in space. Gravity needs MASS, not weight. Your space balloons won't have much mass. It won't matter how big you blow them up.

Ships in a harbour will move towards eachother but we don't know why

Ships alongside each other are pulled together because of the flow of water between the ships which causes a decrease in pressure.

the water would always all be the same pressure, the boats as they move are attracted by some unknown force, they don't drift random or away from other boats they drift towards each other, but I think they have to be big for it to happen
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: Barthheart on August 28, 2017, 02:24:21 PM
Quote from: gameleaper on August 28, 2017, 02:04:51 PM
Quote from: Pete Dero on August 28, 2017, 01:52:04 PM
Quote from: gameleaper on August 28, 2017, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: Ubercat on August 28, 2017, 12:02:28 PM
Gameleaper,

there is still MASS in space. Gravity needs MASS, not weight. Your space balloons won't have much mass. It won't matter how big you blow them up.

Ships in a harbour will move towards eachother but we don't know why

Ships alongside each other are pulled together because of the flow of water between the ships which causes a decrease in pressure.

the water would always all be the same pressure, the boats as they move are attracted by some unknown force, they don't drift random or away from other boats they drift towards each other, but I think they have to be big for it to happen

Man you really need to stop eating those mushrooms.....  :idiot2:

There is no unknown force drawing ships together, and it isn't gravity either.

You really can't be this dim.... so are you just trolling us for shits and giggles?
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: mirth on August 28, 2017, 02:26:34 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli%27s_principle
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: Barthheart on August 28, 2017, 02:30:53 PM
Man... I hate the Bernoulli brothers....  :P
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: mirth on August 28, 2017, 02:32:02 PM
Weren't they the hosts of Car Talk?
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: Barthheart on August 28, 2017, 02:32:44 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 28, 2017, 03:48:36 PM
Barth, you're working on an aneurysm. You need to stop reading these threads!  :buck2:
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: mirth on August 28, 2017, 03:50:09 PM
I thought Canucks were always supposed to be polite.
Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: BanzaiCat on August 28, 2017, 03:56:42 PM
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Title: Re: space engine that uses gravity as fuel by enlarging and reducing size,like a sub
Post by: mirth on August 28, 2017, 03:59:00 PM
^Savages!