So, I have Conflict of Heroes: Awakening the Bear and the solo expansion. So far I'm enjoying however the solo expansion works only for AtB and cannot be used for other CoH games. I was wanting to make my own counters for other nations (Japan, Italy, US, etc...) and try to use the solo cards for my own scenarios, but this can't be done.
So, since my knowledge of other ww2 tactical board games is limited I'm here asking people who have more experience in product availability, is there a game system out there that has a solo element that would lend itself to the endeavor I'm trying to accomplish? Or, am I'm smoking crack thinking this even exists? :uglystupid2:
I'll continue to buy AG CoH games as they are pretty awesome, but their games seem to come out every couple years.
Yes?
That's what I was afraid of :'(
Ambush, if you can find it
The new LNLT Solo system builds off a similar mechanic to the CoH solo system.
Quote from: bayonetbrant on September 20, 2017, 09:22:17 AM
Ambush, if you can find it
The new LNLT Solo system builds off a similar mechanic to the CoH solo system.
Oh, thanks brant
I'll take a look at that series.
More importantly, the LnL Tactical system Solo module works for ANY of the games in the system. It will also work for DIY scenarios.
And the series already has a modules with Japs, Italians, US, Brits, French, Somalis, Argentines etc.
Quote from: Barthheart on September 20, 2017, 02:06:56 PM
More importantly, the LnL Tactical system Solo module works for ANY of the games in the system. It will also work for DIY scenarios.
And the series already has a modules with Japs, Italians, US, Brits, French, Somalis, Argentines etc.
AHHH, so I don't have to make my own units!
I like CoH, but it will take forever for them to make expansions (well, the ones I want)
I'll take a closer look at LnL
Quote from: Barthheart on September 20, 2017, 02:06:56 PM
More importantly, the LnL Tactical system Solo module works for ANY of the games in the system. It will also work for DIY scenarios.
And the series already has a modules with Japs, Italians, US, Brits, French, Somalis, Argentines etc.
When they do a module featuring Canadian 1st Army and the battles for the Scheldt, I'll buy into the system.
Quote from: bob48 on September 20, 2017, 02:19:02 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on September 20, 2017, 02:06:56 PM
More importantly, the LnL Tactical system Solo module works for ANY of the games in the system. It will also work for DIY scenarios.
And the series already has a modules with Japs, Italians, US, Brits, French, Somalis, Argentines etc.
When they do a module featuring Canadian 1st Army and the battles for the Scheldt, I'll buy into the system.
Yeah... I want a Canadians in Italy module... every time I bring it up it's suggested that I should go ahead a design it.
The one that Matt and I were doing for NaW went nowhere due to the change of ownership - and you did the vassal mod for it if you remember. I've lost touch with matt now so don't know if he is still involved.
Yep, I remember that.
As far as I know Matt is still around. I think they were just busy getting the updated versions of the original sets out.
Go to LnLP forums and post about it in the NaW threads.
CoH changes are coming too.
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1851121/changes-coming-2nd-edition
QuoteMy wife has told me that we do not go on vacation until SoS is at the printer.
That being said, Gunter and I are adding a lot of upgrades that we have been working on for the past two years.
No tracking APs. Special 'AP Spent Die' will be utilized that is designed to give the same statistical probability spent results as in the current 7APs per unit rules. But, now you can never be sure. You can lower your being spent odds by paying your action cost with up to 2CAPs, thus lowering the APs you spent. Players will now use their CAPs in a much more realistic manner.
No tracking CAPs. CAP cards are now used with values of 0, 1 and 2. Your opponent does not know how many CAPs you have remaining. As you lose units, you add an Attrition Card to the CAP card draw deck. If you pull an Attrition Card, it will influence your battle choices in some way. But your opponent will never know what you have in your hand until the end of the round!
Firefight books for each side.
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Cautious movement costs +1 to execute and adds +1DM to the unit.
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Sincerely,
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You might look at the DVG Warfighter series. There's a modern combat and WWII version, with plenty of expansions for both. Not hex-based but it is tactical, if somewhat vaguely so, and it is a solo system (can be played with multiple players too, in cooperation).
thanks for the link/update. i tend to bypass bgg nowadays but couldn't.t resist... anyhow, i still wish academy games would do their errata differently - or, at least, they should offer printed 'and corrected'rulebooks! their updated pdfs suck big time!!! :(
The more I look at the LnL solo rules and their games (mainly BoB) I think I'm liking that more than CoH. CoH has gorgeous counters, but I like the more expanded armor values on LnL counters over CoH counters. I might be totally wrong about this as I still need to dig more into the LnL mechanics.
Glancing through the LnL rules (mainly for combat) it seems that these rules have a little more depth than CoH combat rules.
Oh jeez, how could I have forgotten Advanced Platoon Leader? Check out our video review if you haven't yet.
Dude, download the FREE print and play copy and give the game a try. Reading the rules won't give you enough of how great the system is.
OR I can get online with you one night and teach you how to play in less than 15 minutes.
Where is a good place to trade/sell board games (other than here of course :bd:)
Try the BGG store.
https://www.boardgamegeek.com/
Quote from: bob48 on September 23, 2017, 03:44:41 PM
Try the BGG store.
https://www.boardgamegeek.com/
doh!...forgot that. Thanks Bob!!
;)
The newer Old School Tactical 1 and 2 (Eastern Front) and (Western Front) are well worth looking at too. Plus Old School Tactical 3 is going to be the Pacific.
Somewhat like CoH's, but also a bit more detailed. Armor, leaders, support weapons, awesome maps and lots of scenarios.
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/170669/old-school-tactical
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https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/205164/old-school-tactical-volume-ii-west-front-1944-45
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Thanks Richie. I'll take a look at that too.
I like CoH, but the CAP system feels off to me. I will admit, I'm not an experienced board gamer, but I like the idea of having leaders in a game. Also, while CoH is a gorgeous game, I find the attack # and defense # for armor values a little too bland.
You can read the latest rules and get an idea of the game. The version 5.5 is the latest set of rules. Plus there is a Vassal version of OST 1.
OST uses "Impulse Points" as actions by each player's forces.
Per Flying Pig Games web site:
The rules for Old School Tactical Vol II: West Front 1944-45 are now online and available for download.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/56cfsf2vglyh6on/OST-Rules5.5-Final...
Thanks Richie!! O0
Something else I was thinking about (this is from the musings of a self professed board gaming newb mind you) is combat (for armor) that has range bands and effectiveness that decreased as you range out. I feel like a set of rules that implements that is a little more (maybe not historical, but possibly more accurate?)
Something about a Pz IV in one game having an armor attack value of 8 and then in another game is has a armor attack value of 8 within 4 hexes, 5 within 7 hexes and then a 4 within 9 hexes (or something like that. Am I nuts in thinking that's a little more realistic? Or, am I on crack yet again? :uglystupid2:
Have you had a look at the 'Band of Brothers' system?
Quote from: bob48 on September 24, 2017, 09:54:47 AM
Have you had a look at the 'Band of Brothers' system?
Bob....that was the system I was thinking about when I typed my above ramblings! I was watching a BBG video of Ghost Panzer and I like the combat rules. They seem pretty straight forward. Old school tactical is nice too. I've glanced at Panzer also, but I've heard they're a little weak on infantry rules. I might have to buy multiple games and just test them out for myself....what a damn crying shame eh? ^-^
I've got all the re-mastered BoB stuff with all the extra's from backing it when it was on kickstarter. Its not by any means perfect, but its a lot of fun and has plenty of re-playability. I like it, anyway.
Bob is right about BoB too. I have the KS stuff for sale or maybe trade of CoH stuff ;)
QuoteBand of Brothers board game series with remastered editions of Screaming Eagles, Ghost Panzer, and the new Texas Arrows.
$125 plus shipping.
It's $195 less shipping for all three titles less the Kick Starter goals.
Brand new and never opened.
1 copy of the remastered edition of GHOST PANZER, 1 copy of the remastered edition SCREAMING EAGLES, plus the new TEXAS ARROWS. Also all stretch goals reached during campaign.
Stretch Goal #1
A Full Color Printed Battle Manual. Like Big Foot or the Yeti, this has previously only been rumored to exist and never seen in the wild. The Battle Manual will contain ALL of the designer notes, extended examples of play, a brief description of all the units in all three games, and other things.
Stretch Goal #2 is a Screaming Eagles Patch in addition to the battle manual.
Stretch Goal #3 is a Ghost Panzer Patch in addition to the battle manual and the Screaming Eagles patch.
Complete the collection with Stretch Goal #4; a Texas Arrows Patch in addition to the battle manual, Screaming Eagles patch and Ghost Panzer Patch.
Stretch Goal #5 - ONE Extra Cross Over Scenario. This scenario, Shooting Arrows at Ghosts, pits the US 36th Infantry Division of Texas Arrows against the 11th Panzer Division of Ghost Panzer.
Stretch Goal #6- THREE Extra Screaming Eagles Scenarios. These scenarios focus on the 101st Airborne (Screaming Eagles). They are Holy Ground, Cole's Medal of Honor, and The Next Day.
Stretch Goal #7 - THREE Extra Ghost Panzer Scenarios and 16 Extra Counters. These scenarios focus on Eastern Front Battles (Ghost Panzer), although not necessarily those of the 11th Panzer. They are Here They Come, Tiger Paw, and Hitler Meets Churchill. The extra counters are: 2 PzIIIN, 2 T34M43, 2 JU87G Tank Killers, 2 Marder IIIH, 2 SU76M, 2 SU122, 4 Russian Churchill Tanks.
Stretch Goal #8 - THREE Extra Texas Arrows Scenarios. These scenarios focus on the US 36th Infantry Division (Texas Arrows). They are Hi-Wire Jinx, Blue Beach, and Oklahoma Wildcat.
Stretch Goal #9 - You asked for it and we are designing it. A custom Plastic tray for each game will be included when this goal is reached.
Ed
Which board games do you like (WW2 squad level)? I always like hearing other more experienced players views.
Thanks
Quote from: acctingman on September 24, 2017, 01:07:46 PM
Ed
Which board games do you like (WW2 squad level)? I always like hearing other more experienced players views.
Thanks
I like Old School Tactical and Conflicts of Heroes. I am a big Panzer GMT gamer too. Panzer has all the bells & whistles, like armor, infantry, artillery, air planes etc and solo rules are coming inthe soon to be released France 1940 module. I loved Squad Leader as a kid, but never got into ASL. ASL is too complex for my liking. I had the LnL Band of Heroes games, but the series wasn't to my liking - so I sold them all off.
I bought BoB based on reviews and watching videos. I messed with the Vassal version and liked it. But after beating cancer, I have been looking to thin out my games. Looking to buy the CoH solo package and Poland & Pacific, but I am out of a job right now. Long story, but the place I worked for 23 years will only take me back if I except a 25% pay cut. So I am job less and broke - LOL!
So it's Old School and Panzer mostly right now.
Quote from: Richie61 on September 24, 2017, 05:59:22 PM
Quote from: acctingman on September 24, 2017, 01:07:46 PM
Ed
Which board games do you like (WW2 squad level)? I always like hearing other more experienced players views.
Thanks
I like Old School Tactical and Conflicts of Heroes. I am a big Panzer GMT gamer too. Panzer has all the bells & whistles, like armor, infantry, artillery, air planes etc and solo rules are coming inthe soon to be released France 1940 module. I loved Squad Leader as a kid, but never got into ASL. ASL is too complex for my liking. I had the LnL Band of Heroes games, but the series wasn't to my liking - so I sold them all off.
I bought BoB based on reviews and watching videos. I messed with the Vassal version and liked it. But after beating cancer, I have been looking to thin out my games. Looking to buy the CoH solo package and Poland & Pacific, but I am out of a job right now. Long story, but the place I worked for 23 years will only take me back if I except a 25% pay cut. So I am job less and broke - LOL!
So it's Old School and Panzer mostly right now.
I've read the knock on Panzer is the infantry rules are lacking. Do you find this to be the case? I do like the look of their armor rules/stats :smitten:
Infantry or as Panzer calls them "Leg units" is very basic compared to say OST, CoH or BoB. The infantry combat is just a die roll with a bunch of modifiers, clean and simple. You have full & 1/2 squads like SL/ ASL. You start as a full squad and damage drops you to a 1/2. 1/2 squad is destroyed ( or technically out of combat action) with another damage hit. DRM's are based on their state and terrain. The main difference is that Old School Tactical, Conflict of Heroes and ASL focus on the infantry whereas Panzer's focus are the tanks. However the infantry rules in Panzer are not "throw away" rules. In any scenario where infantry are involved, they are usually key to winning the game. When in built-up terrain such as towns, they are hard to root out unless you have infantry of your own or commit significant resources and time in suppressing them with fire from your armor. They will suffer step reduction and suppression results but not to the detail of breaking, routing, and battle hardening that you'll find in ASL.
Basically Panzer is based on miniature rules. Jim Day based the board game off his miniature rules, so you could use the board game rules with miniatures.
As for rules. You start with the basic rules and can add any advanced rule to your game as you go. That is the beauty of this system. You want infantry, then use that advanced rule section. It can be as detailed as you want.
Good review of Panzer here:
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/854853/initial-impressions-gmts-rendition-jim-days-panzer
Not my words ;)
QuoteI'd think, however, that GMT's Panzer (second edition) might appeal to the Conflict of Heroes and Band of Brothers: Screaming Eagles player who wants to "level up" into something more hardcore, or the Combat Commander Series series guy who longs for tanks in his tactical recreations.
Has anyone played Panzer solo? What about OST solo?
The only game that is mentioned in this post that has solo rules is LnL. Just wondering how the other rules play solo (since that's my only way of gaming)
I Have OST and it plays well solo. No solo rules, just play both sides.
It's impulse driven, ie you move one stack then I move one stack, so it's easy to just play the best you can for both sides, especially if one side is defending.
Haven't played the new Panzer at all.
You can obtain solo rules for the CoH games, I think.
Quote from: bob48 on September 26, 2017, 09:25:00 AM
You can obtain solo rules for the CoH games, I think.
I've only played 1 game with the solo xpac for CoH. They seem to be pretty slick, but I need to play this game before I move onto something else.
Still like the looks of Panzer, OST, BoB and LnL
My book shelf is going to get full isn't it? :crazy2:
Quote from: acctingman on September 26, 2017, 10:12:41 AM
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I've only played 1 game with the solo xpac for CoH
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ok, you're smokin' crack, mate! freebaser dlx - boyeeee! before jumping ship - please play some more of THAT CoH dope, ok?!
...forget the 'looks' of non-academy-games-games!!
cheers!
Quote from: acctingman on September 26, 2017, 10:12:41 AM
Quote from: bob48 on September 26, 2017, 09:25:00 AM
You can obtain solo rules for the CoH games, I think.
I've only played 1 game with the solo xpac for CoH. They seem to be pretty slick, but I need to play this game before I move onto something else.
Still like the looks of Panzer, OST, BoB and LnL
My book shelf is going to get full isn't it? :crazy2:
Truly it is the only way to find what
you like. I've played Squad Leader, ASL, CoH, Combat Commander, Valor & Victory, LnLT and Advanced Platoon commander.
I've settled on LnLT as my go to squad level game because it gives me what I'm looking for at that scale - lots of action, a good story and reasonably believable combat results.
Will I stop looking at others as they come along? Nope I'll keep buying in just to see what's up and what's new. Another enjoyment aspect of the hobby.
Well, you have 'The Last 100 yards' from GMT and 'Engage & Destroy' for Compass to look out for :-)
The Last Hundred Yards....
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:o Ugh those counters! The maps are nice though.
Engage and Destroy sounds very armour centric like Panzer and legs are an after thought.
I can afford to be picky at this point.
8)
Quote from: Barthheart on September 26, 2017, 11:15:45 AM
:o Ugh those counters! The maps are nice though.
Maybe if you round the corners, they'll look better? O:-)
Don't the colours make yer eyes bleed?!? :hide:
Rounded corners are engineeringlically proven to increase the attractiveness and combat strength of counters by 115%.
Quote from: BanzaiCat on September 26, 2017, 11:20:36 AM
Rounded corners are engineeringlically proven to increase the attractiveness and combat strength of counters by 115%.
Like all stats on the internet....
Besides... how much engineeringlicallyness do you have to make such a statement? ???
Quote from: Barthheart on September 26, 2017, 11:22:22 AM
Besides... how much engineeringlicallyness do you have to make such a statement? ???
None! I'm a designer, dammit. I draw all day (kind of).
Though I DO agree with you, FWIW. Those counters be ugly. I couldn't resist the counter-rounding poking. You were rather stoic in your replies and didn't fall for the bait. :(
I like the infantry art on those counters. Some of the best. GOD I wish I could make those and create my own counters :uglystupid2:
Just had my lunch so I wasn't going for bait....
Quote from: acctingman on September 26, 2017, 09:20:21 AM
Has anyone played Panzer solo? What about OST solo?
The only game that is mentioned in this post that has solo rules is LnL. Just wondering how the other rules play solo (since that's my only way of gaming)
The next Panzer title: France 1940 is going to have solo rules.
OST: Solo Flow Chart
https://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/144008/solo-flow-chart
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Yea, I saw the solo Xpac for Panzer but there is no est release date so I'm guessing it's going to be a while
Quote from: Barthheart on September 26, 2017, 11:15:45 AM
The Last Hundred Yards....
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:o Ugh those counters! The maps are nice though.
Engage and Destroy sounds very armour centric like Panzer and legs are an after thought.
I can afford to be picky at this point.
8)
Interesting to note that most of the German counters are depicted as being from the 250th (Spanish 'Blue') division.
Is it possible to play any game with any boards?
For instance, could you play Old School Tactical on a CoH board?
Just curious to see if there would be any issues.
I duuno - compare (a) ground scale and (b) time scale of each game. That should give some indication.
Quote from: acctingman on September 26, 2017, 01:54:52 PM
Is it possible to play any game with any boards?
For instance, could you play Old School Tactical on a CoH board?
Just curious to see if there would be any issues.
Yes. I've seen people use the OST maps for other games. You would have to match up the terrain to each game for MP, LOS, Cover etc..
Quote from: acctingman on September 26, 2017, 12:47:07 PM
Yea, I saw the solo Xpac for Panzer but there is no est release date so I'm guessing it's going to be a while
I will ask someone I know who is involved in it. Gotta be faster than Flying Pig games :o
another thing I noticed....brick and mortar shops just cannot compete with online retailers. I can get BoB:GP for $49 online while a local shop is charging $75.
Quote from: acctingman on September 26, 2017, 04:37:49 PM
another thing I noticed....brick and mortar shops just cannot compete with online retailers. I can get BoB:GP for $49 online while a local shop is charging $75.
Or you can buy my whole KS set with all the games and KS goodies for $125 plus shipping :2funny:
PS: If you have the Heroes of Stalangrad PC game, you can get the feel of the LnL system.
Me? I would go with either Panzer or Old School Tactical 1/2. Conflict of Heroes is in the running, but I want Eastern & Western fronts :)
If you want to see the LnLT Solo module in action here are some pretty good videos:
Just found those last night, thanks!
Thanks Ed, but I'm going with the LnL system over BoB O0
Crap, just noticed Academygames had removed their France 1940 module from their CoH page :'(
They had a list of really interesting additions that were supposed to be coming out for CoH and which, given the long time between PoH and the new game, is an unreliable list to say the least. I give up with Academy Games.
Quote from: bob48 on October 03, 2017, 07:01:35 AM
They had a list of really interesting additions that were supposed to be coming out for CoH and which, given the long time between PoH and the new game, is an unreliable list to say the least. I give up with Academy Games.
Yeah, being familiar with their release schedules I was not holding my breath. It is ready when it is ready. But to have it taken out completely :tickedoff:
Quote from: Crossroads on October 03, 2017, 06:16:01 AM
Crap, just noticed Academygames had removed their France 1940 module from their CoH page :'(
I think you will like LnL. Plus it's a nice looking game(s) since Heath took over :)
Part 3 of LnLT Solo playthrough...
Gents
Thanks for all the commentary here. I really appreciate it. It helps to have knowledgeable folks opinions for someone like myself who isn't when it comes to war gaming choices.
Panzer makes me drool when I see it. Just love the crunchiness when it comes to armor combat and I seriously want to try my hand at mod'ing that game with some additional units.
Also, the LnL Nations are War games look good too (White Star Rising and Desert Heat) AND their tactical series. This issue I have now is which one to buy first! :uglystupid2:
Again, thank you
After watching this video....I do have a little gripe....the X-Maps. Why do game companies do this crap (well, I know why....mo money!) but it's very frustrating some times when they do this sort of thing.
Sent you a PM.