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Digital Gaming => Ally/Opponent Finder => Topic started by: MetalDog on July 07, 2012, 09:38:25 AM

Title: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: MetalDog on July 07, 2012, 09:38:25 AM
For fear of derailing Martok's Civ IV thread any further, I thought I would start one of our own.  Enough interest has been expressed in a PBEM that I thought we should have a thread devoted to it.  Here, you can post thoughts, ruminations, plans, reasons, etc. for your in game choices.  Smack talk is allowed, but, be careful what you say, it may come back to bite you.

I would like to see posted here commitments from those who wish to get in as well as their play preferences.  Number of civilizations, Victory Conditions, map size, etc.  I would also like to set a cutoff date for entry.  Today is Saturday.  I think by Wednesday, July 11, should be enough time to get everyone in that wants in.  I ask that if you are going to participate that you commit to doing so.  We all understand when real life rears its head, but bailing because you are losing is pretty crappy.  So, once you join, please endeavor to play to the end.

For myself, I would like to see only human civs and a map big enough to accommodate us.  Space Race, Cultural, Time, U.N. Victory and Domination are the Victory Conditions I would like to use.   Of all the VC, I think Time is the one we HAVE to include.  Only because the game will be endless without it.  I have no preference for the culture I use.

So that's it.  If you want in, get in.  And let your Grog flag fly!
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: Bismarck on July 07, 2012, 09:45:46 AM
I'm in.
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: MetalDog on July 07, 2012, 09:49:13 AM
Excellent!  I forgot to add, what iteration?  Vanilla?  Warlords?  Or Beyond The Sword?  I prefer BTS.
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: Barthheart on July 07, 2012, 09:57:07 AM
Count me in.

I'd prefer BTS as well, with vanilla second.

All victory conditions.
Huge world, small continents, avergage age, water etc.

Forget which CIV IV civ I liked best (too much CIV V lately) but I guess the Germans would be fun.

Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: Bismarck on July 07, 2012, 10:09:06 AM
BTS
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: MetalDog on July 07, 2012, 10:46:21 AM
Quote from: Barthheart on July 07, 2012, 09:57:07 AM
Count me in.

I'd prefer BTS as well, with vanilla second.

All victory conditions.
Huge world, small continents, avergage age, water etc.

Forget which CIV IV civ I liked best (too much CIV V lately) but I guess the Germans would be fun.

My guess would be that you may have to speak to Bismarck about that ;-)
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: Bismarck on July 07, 2012, 10:52:26 AM
Naw, I cam kick ass in many languages.
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: Barthheart on July 07, 2012, 02:47:50 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on July 07, 2012, 10:46:21 AM
Quote from: Barthheart on July 07, 2012, 09:57:07 AM
Count me in.

I'd prefer BTS as well, with vanilla second.

All victory conditions.
Huge world, small continents, avergage age, water etc.

Forget which CIV IV civ I liked best (too much CIV V lately) but I guess the Germans would be fun.

My guess would be that you may have to speak to Bismarck about that ;-)

Whoops! Yer right... Bismarck should have first crack at the Germans. I'll take Vicky and the Brits.
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: meadbelly on July 08, 2012, 06:40:18 PM
I threatened to break out the CivIV in the other thread. Unfortunately, I can't put my hands on my license key. So I can't be joining.

This is really too bad for the rest of you, since every good multi-person pbem needs at least one hapless victim.  ;D
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: MetalDog on July 09, 2012, 07:33:55 PM
Sorry to hear that meadbelly.  I guess that means I get to play hapless victim :-(
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: OJsDad on July 09, 2012, 08:56:43 PM
Count me in, I'll be both the newbie and the hapless victim.
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: MetalDog on July 09, 2012, 09:16:56 PM
Welcome OJsDad!  I think I can speak for the Civ vets here and say that any question you might have, we'll be glad to answer.
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: OJsDad on July 10, 2012, 11:44:55 AM
Thanks MetalDog.  That's the biggest reason I'm signing on is to get great experience.  Do you need to know which Civ and Leader I want to setup the game.
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: W8taminute on July 10, 2012, 12:24:42 PM
Man I sure wish I could jump in but I've got two other PBEM's and then real life going on.   Wish I could stop real life but oh well.   I'll keep my eye on this thread for sure.
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: Jarhead0331 on July 10, 2012, 12:36:42 PM
If you need another, I'll play.
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: Ulfang on July 10, 2012, 12:56:14 PM
I'm not in as I'm a Civ V nut now but have played several Civ IV PBEM's in the past. Not sure how many you guys have played but if there are a few of you who haven't attempted any just a few words of advice.

Advanced starts are best. At least having one or two warriors and workers. The game is really slow for the first dozen or so turns and if you have several players you could be looking at several days before you get to the second turn. Taking into account that it will take several turns to make your first unit it can take forever to get the game moving even. The game is only as fast as the slowest player ;) Obviously avoid Marathon speed setting lol.

The game usually starts with a quick turnaround as players are eager to get the game going but even with the best intentions it will slow down pretty quickly. People not being around, time differences, work etc. You need a lot of patience for a PBEM Game.

As much fun as having lots of players seems the game will be slower the more players you have. The last game I played only had four of us and six months later we gave up after two players couldn't commit to the game anymore.

Team games are usually the fairest and tend to allow everyone to stay in the game for a while otherwise the weaker or less knowledgeable players disappear pretty quickly.

Anyway have fun. I'll keep an eye on your progress.
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: MetalDog on July 11, 2012, 11:02:54 PM
Alright.  It looks like Bismarck, Barthheart, OJsDad, Jarhead and myself will be participating.  I am in favor of an Advanced start and would prefer a Large, Continents map with all of the Victory Conditions except Conquest.  I do not know how to set a SMPT server, but I seem to remember that Bismarck does.  If he would be so kind as to let me know, that would be awesome.  Or, he can set it up himself.  I have no culture preference.  Random is fine for me.

So, what else gents?  Advanced start?  Map size and number of A.I.?  Victory Conditions?
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: Barthheart on July 12, 2012, 07:56:25 AM
Advanced start sounds good to me. Do you pick the era for that? Maybe midieval would be good place to start.

Huge continenents.

Agree on victory conditions.

AI? Maybe 5 one for each of us to take out? :)

Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: MetalDog on July 12, 2012, 08:57:19 PM
I didn't see an option to pick starting era.  However, I wasn't looking for one either. 

I got two warriors, two workers, one culture bump, a Granary, a cow pasture and a road from it to my city, plus one point of population and Masonry, Pottery, Animal Husbandry, and one or two more Techs for the beginning 660 points.

If we're playing Huge, more A.I.'s would give us more opponents to trade/war with and something to take up all that space.  Or Large 5 Humans/5 A.I.

Anyone else?
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: OJsDad on July 13, 2012, 11:26:22 AM
Sounds good to me.  What do you need from me to get started.
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: MetalDog on July 13, 2012, 06:57:22 PM
^PM me your e-mail address.  You can choose your civ here.
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: OJsDad on July 13, 2012, 09:26:41 PM
If no one else want them, I'll take the Americans.    PM on it's way.
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: MetalDog on July 13, 2012, 10:53:42 PM
America is all yours.
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: OJsDad on July 14, 2012, 08:14:02 AM
When I launch Civ, I want to us the BTS icon.  I don't need to load any mods do I?
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: Ulfang on July 14, 2012, 09:49:17 AM
That's another good point. Before you start you need to be sure everyone has the same expansions and are patched to the same patch. If the game is run using BTS then everyone needs it. If the game is created via vanilla version then it can only be un with vanilla. If anyone isn't patched to the same patch as the game creator then they won't be able to play.
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: MetalDog on July 14, 2012, 10:34:33 AM
Yes, you want to use the BTS icon.  You will also need a Gamespy account to play online.  Go to Multiplayer.  If you do not already have a Gamespy account, you can create one there.  Once you login to Multiplayer, you will need to patch your BTS to Version 3.19. 
Title: Re: Grogheads CIV IV PBEM
Post by: OJsDad on July 14, 2012, 12:15:26 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on July 14, 2012, 10:34:33 AM
Yes, you want to use the BTS icon.  You will also need a Gamespy account to play online.  Go to Multiplayer.  If you do not already have a Gamespy account, you can create one there.  Once you login to Multiplayer, you will need to patch your BTS to Version 3.19.

OK, I'm already at 3.19.

I had to use a different email address.  I tried to use my google account to link to ign account, but I couldn't log into gamespy from with in CIV.  So I had to create a different account with a different email address.  I'll PM it to  you.