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Title: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: acctingman on October 26, 2017, 11:24:35 AM
Are there any decent card driven WW2 aerial combat games out there?

I'm off to check BBG, but wanted to ask the fine folks here for their .02c (.005c for our Canadian neighbors)


Anything else besides Down in Flames?
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: Barthheart on October 26, 2017, 11:47:13 AM
 :knuppel2:

Down in Flames is the only card driven ones I know of... unless you count Wings of Glory WWII which is card driven minis.
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: mirth on October 26, 2017, 11:52:20 AM
Quote from: Barthheart on October 26, 2017, 11:47:13 AM
:knuppel2:

Down in Flames is the only card driven ones I know of... unless you count Wings of Glory WWII which is card driven minis.

DiF is probably it for CDG.

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/36325/down-flames-aces-high (https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/36325/down-flames-aces-high)

https://www.funagain.com/control/product?product_id=020525 (https://www.funagain.com/control/product?product_id=020525)
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: acctingman on October 26, 2017, 12:13:40 PM
Thanks gents
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: bbmike on October 26, 2017, 12:40:43 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on October 26, 2017, 11:47:13 AM
:knuppel2:

Down in Flames is the only card driven ones I know of... unless you count Wings of Glory WWII which is card driven minis.

What's the bat for? Cards have rounded edges?
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: Barthheart on October 26, 2017, 12:48:56 PM
Quote from: bbmike on October 26, 2017, 12:40:43 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on October 26, 2017, 11:47:13 AM
:knuppel2:

Down in Flames is the only card driven ones I know of... unless you count Wings of Glory WWII which is card driven minis.

What's the bat for? Cards have rounded edges?

Cheap shot at Canadians....
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 26, 2017, 12:50:02 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on October 26, 2017, 12:48:56 PM
Cheap shot at Canadians....

if CDN$ weren't so.... y'know...  cheap, it wouldn't be so easy :D
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: acctingman on October 26, 2017, 12:59:56 PM
Barth, my wife is Canadian, so Canada can't be all bad  O0
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: acctingman on October 26, 2017, 01:22:54 PM
Just watched a couple videos of the game and it looks pretty decent enough. I'll try and pick this up on sale somewhere.
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: Barthheart on October 26, 2017, 01:32:37 PM
That just means you have good taste.  O0

DiF is actually a pretty good game. There's a few addons for it and it plays fast.

Why card driven?

By the way Wings of Glory doesn't have to be played the minis. There are cards that represent the planes and can be used to play the game. Good for travel. But you still need a 4'x4' play surface.
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: Phantom on October 26, 2017, 01:42:29 PM
Have you seen Table Air Combat - not card driven but an interesting game of WW2 air combat nonetheless - and very cheap to pick up...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiZs_h3QmE4&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: Barthheart on October 26, 2017, 01:43:07 PM
Quote from: Phantom on October 26, 2017, 01:42:29 PM
Have you seen Table Air Combat - not card driven but an interesting game of WW2 air combat nonetheless - and very cheap to pick up...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiZs_h3QmE4&feature=youtu.be

And it's fun to play.  O0
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: acctingman on October 26, 2017, 01:51:40 PM
Quote from: Phantom on October 26, 2017, 01:42:29 PM
Have you seen Table Air Combat - not card driven but an interesting game of WW2 air combat nonetheless - and very cheap to pick up...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiZs_h3QmE4&feature=youtu.be

Dang, that looks pretty slick.

I didn't know Wings of Glory could be played w/o the mini's.

Damn, now I have to check out all 3!  O0

Looking for which ever game can handle solo play since I have no opponents
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: Barthheart on October 26, 2017, 02:06:41 PM
Well DiF and WoG both have "hands" of cards and hidden choices. Not impossible to play solo. WoG is easy enough that you could teach your wife to play, at least the base game is.

TAC has no cards and no hidden info. It plays quick and in a small foot print area, 2'x2' is usually big enough. Also easy enough for spousal gaming.
It's print and play though so you have to make your own parts.
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on October 26, 2017, 02:09:02 PM
There's a good solo ruleset for WoG up on BGG. 

Also, if you want solo, check out B-17 Flying Fortress Leader from DVG.  It's card driven and great!
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: Barthheart on October 26, 2017, 02:11:48 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on October 26, 2017, 02:09:02 PM
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Also, if you want solo, check out B-17 Flying Fortress Leader from DVG.  It's card driven and great!

Need to get my hands on a copy of this....
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: bbmike on October 26, 2017, 03:13:42 PM
^I need to paint my minis for that.
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: acctingman on October 26, 2017, 03:19:06 PM
Think I'm leaning toward the DVG games. Seems like for $100 or so you get quite a lot of planes (minus Italy).

DiF seems a little deeper than Table Air Combat and it's looking like WoG WW2 is hard to find these days.

Man, I wish I had some of your deep pockets you guys seem to have here!  :dreamer:
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: Nefaro on October 27, 2017, 01:00:37 PM
DiF is fun, but not really a solo game.


I noticed DVG is close to bringing out their new Cold War version of DiF.   Been eyeing the gameplay previews with F-4s and MiG-21s.  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: Phantom on October 27, 2017, 02:09:22 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on October 27, 2017, 01:00:37 PM
DiF is fun, but not really a solo game.


I noticed DVG is close to bringing out their new Cold War version of DiF.   Been eyeing the gameplay previews with F-4s and MiG-21s.  :coolsmiley:

If you're on a tight budget the planes (which in effect is the game) for TAC are $1.99 each..
http://w2ww.wargamevault.com/product/150049/Table-Air-Combat--Spitfire-II?filters=0_40205_0_0

and the rules are free (and since I last played this I see they now include bombers, torpedo attacks etc...)
http://w2ww.wargamevault.com/product/187902/Table-Air-Combat-Flight-Operations-Manual?src=also_purchased&filters=0_40205_0_0

Worth trying even if you find its not what you want - I'm guessing that's probably the price of a Big Mac.

PS: I have no links to the company O:-)

Regards
Keith
Title: Re: WW2 aerial combat
Post by: Nefaro on October 27, 2017, 07:19:52 PM
Quote from: Phantom on October 27, 2017, 02:09:22 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on October 27, 2017, 01:00:37 PM
DiF is fun, but not really a solo game.


I noticed DVG is close to bringing out their new Cold War version of DiF.   Been eyeing the gameplay previews with F-4s and MiG-21s.  :coolsmiley:

If you're on a tight budget the planes (which in effect is the game) for TAC are $1.99 each..
http://w2ww.wargamevault.com/product/150049/Table-Air-Combat--Spitfire-II?filters=0_40205_0_0

and the rules are free (and since I last played this I see they now include bombers, torpedo attacks etc...)
http://w2ww.wargamevault.com/product/187902/Table-Air-Combat-Flight-Operations-Manual?src=also_purchased&filters=0_40205_0_0

Worth trying even if you find its not what you want - I'm guessing that's probably the price of a Big Mac.

PS: I have no links to the company O:-)

Regards
Keith


I have quite a few air combat tabletop games. 

Got nothing against TAC, looks nice & streamlined.  Watched a video tutorial quite awhile back.  Didn't seem like there was much to it, so probably not my thing, or not very high on my list.