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History, Reference, Research, and GrogTalk => Military (and other) History => Topic started by: bayonetbrant on November 01, 2017, 09:10:23 AM

Title: "Doomed to Fail" in Iraq?
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 01, 2017, 09:10:23 AM
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/how-saddam-hussein-predicted-americas-failure-in-iraq/
Title: Re: "Doomed to Fail" in Iraq?
Post by: Airborne Rifles on November 01, 2017, 09:48:33 AM
Did we fail in Iraq?
Title: Re: "Doomed to Fail" in Iraq?
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 01, 2017, 10:57:38 AM
Quote from: Airborne Rifles on November 01, 2017, 09:48:33 AM
Did we fail in Iraq?

hard to assess success or failure when we never really articulated a set of goals at the outset.
Title: Re: "Doomed to Fail" in Iraq?
Post by: Airborne Rifles on November 01, 2017, 01:45:32 PM
Agreed, which makes the premise of the article a bit obnoxious. Saying Maude's Mesopotamian campaign was a "failure" is a bit obnoxious as well, since that campaign accomplished exactly what its stated objectives were (defeat of the Ottoman Empire, securing supplies of oil from Persia).

Whether or not the decision to invade Iraq without such stated objectives was a mistake would be a more valid question. Probably wouldn't get as many clicks, though, and the answer is complicated.