How did I miss this rumor? And...nooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Microsoft buying Valve would be a disaster for PC gaming (https://www.pcworld.com/article/3253105/gaming/microsoft-buy-valve-steam-pc-gaming.html#tk.rss_all)
That would suck. MS breaks everything they touch. :tickedoff: :tickedoff:
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That would be a sad day for us all if that happens.
The rumour I heard was that MS might be buying EA, not Steam.
I don't see why Valve would sell...steam is clearly a very profitable service.
Stop being logical- only mindless kneejerk outrage is called for at a time like this. :tickedoff:
I have a friend who likes to brag about his grandson who makes big bucks working for Microsoft. I am surprised that I have a tongue left after biting it so much.
I really want to ask him when his grandson is going to convert Windows 10 into a real operating system.
The real question might be: Does Valve have more principle than greed? Would they sell if the price is right?
WHAT WHAT WHAT
Quote from: DoctorQuest on February 03, 2018, 11:02:18 AM
The real question might be: Does Value have more principle than greed? Would they sell if the price is right?
ROFL :D ;D
NO!
NEIN!
NYET!
NO!
NON!
NADA!!!!
...... I could go on!! :tickedoff:
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 03, 2018, 10:41:38 AM
I don't see why Valve would sell...steam is clearly a very profitable service.
Indeed.
Valve is already trying to branch out, with its own OSs and gaming consoles, whereas MS hasn't been the great monopoly it used to be.
Would MS's shareholders really be OK with the company throwing the amount of money needed for this transaction?
If this happens it's the end of the world as we know it......
And I feel fine
Wait til you sober up.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 03, 2018, 10:41:38 AM
I don't see why Valve would sell...steam is clearly a very profitable service.
Money talks. And if Microsoft can buy the Swedish firm that made
Minecraft (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29204518) for $2,500,000,000 it could afford to pay a lot more for Steam (as well as Electronic Arts and PUBG Corp. (http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-considered-buying-ea-and-valve-report-519612.shtml)).
Oh man! That would be a nightmare!
Quote from: Yskonyn on February 03, 2018, 10:35:38 AM
The rumour I heard was that MS might be buying EA, not Steam.
Now that would be funny. Those two deserve each other. LoL
Quote from: W8taminute on February 04, 2018, 10:38:23 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on February 03, 2018, 10:35:38 AM
The rumour I heard was that MS might be buying EA, not Steam.
Now that would be funny. Those two deserve each other. LoL
Truer words were never spoken! O0
http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/30/microsoft-looking-buy-ea-claim-industry-rumours-7272255/
unfortunately, its the way of the world.
In the next 5 years, Steam will be bought by MS, Google, Amazon, Apple, or Facebook. One of the behemoths. Let cross Apple off the list because of, well, PC. Hopefully its not MS, because the eff things up.
That leaves us with Amazon or Google as the best choices. Amazon would be OK, I think. They have pretty good customer relations.
MS would really piss me off. ALL* games would be subscription-based. I have a perfectly fine copy of Word, Powerpoint, Excel from 2003. They do everything I want. And effin greedy M$ wants me to buy a "subscription". F*** off and die MS!!
What if Apple bought Steam and just stole it from PC owners? :pullhair: :wow: :tickedoff:
I just had a brilliant idea...
KICKSTARTER to save a steam from the clutches of Microsoft. Contribute to the fund to purchase steam! Your money will help ensure that steam is bought and run by a gamer for gamers!
I'm considering the following rewards for contributors.
$25 - Thank you
$50 - 25% off your next purchase
$100 - pick a free game
$250 - art book and soundtrack commemorating our victory over Microsoft
$500 - life sized cardboard cutout of Jarhead, savior of steam
$500,000 - Tesla model x
$1,000,000 - a week's supply of hookers and blow
^You might want to ask a lawyer about that last reward. >:D
Quote from: bbmike on February 06, 2018, 07:36:19 AM
^You might want to ask a lawyer about that last reward. >:D
I am a lawyer. Totally legal.*
*contributor rewards only valid where legal. Contributors have obligation to be familiar with laws and rules of their state and city of residence. All rights reserved.
I already have the 2x life size cut out of JH.
Great idea JH! We could call it, "Steam-Heads". Or, "Steam-Grogs". Or, "Suck-On-It-Microsoft" (My favorite). Put me down for the $500,000 Grogs Version Tesla with the 'Gusington Booster Seat'. :bd:
I'd hate it if one day I actually meet some of you in real life and I turn out to be taller than you'd hoped. From pictures I have seen, I know at least one GH regular who may be shorter than me. Imagine!
I'm only 170 cm tall so I'm sure we're close... ;)
Ooh very close. But I haven't seen a pic. I was thinking of another who may be shorter, according to visual evidence 😎
Five feet, seven inches on my tip-toes. But it's a long 5'7". ::)
Quote from: Gusington on February 06, 2018, 02:44:14 PM
Ooh very close. But I haven't seen a pic. I was thinking of another who may be shorter, according to visual evidence 😎
There's a pic in this series of me talking with Brant and Cyrano's wife.
http://grogheads.com/featured-posts/15227
I haven't seen a pic of you either but you can't be as adorable as the prolific poster I am thinking of.
On my phone now Barth - what color shirt are you wearing in the above pic?
Red. I'm wearing glasses. ;)
Brant is in red as well.
Mrs. Cyrano is in black.
All Grogheads golf shirts.
Found you. You look damned angry.
What a motley crew. I'd be afraid to run into you guys in a dark alley.
Are you the one with the Pirate hat on, if not, why not?
Quote from: Gusington on February 06, 2018, 03:43:13 PM
Found you. You look damned angry.
Grumpy looking old bastard.... ::)
Because a bunch of middle-aged guys with enough time on their hands to spend 20-40 hours per month recreating the Battle of Velikiye Luki on their desktops are just the sort of capital-intensive juggernaut to outbid the 28th largest company in the United States...
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on February 06, 2018, 04:56:38 PM
Because a bunch of middle-aged guys with enough time on their hands to spend 20-40 hours per month recreating the Battle of Velikiye Luki on their desktops are just the sort of capital-intensive juggernaut to outbid the 28th largest company in the United States...
Its a kickstarter...I'd be appealing to dorks across the world. One man to unite them all!
Quote from: Gusington on February 06, 2018, 03:43:13 PM
Found you. You look damned angry.
Must have been something Brant said...
Quote from: Barthheart on February 06, 2018, 07:26:06 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 06, 2018, 03:43:13 PM
Found you. You look damned angry.
Must have been something Brant said...
He was probably complaining about MD's music brackets.
LOL! Preach on, brother!!
Maybe you had gas.
I read somewhere*, that MS want to release a version of Windows that is locked in to their App Store, so you can't run any other applications normally, you have to purchase them and have them authenticated through their store.
*found the link:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/windows-10-s-might-alarm-valve-into-boosting-steamos-again.11170
^ From the article:
Apparently, Windows 10 S can be upgraded to a "normal" version of Windows 10 Home for free, but the problem is that Microsoft has said around 60% don't even bother to do the upgrade keeping them locked into the Windows Store.
I agree it's stupid of Microsoft to even create a Windows 10 S but it is people's own stupidity if they don't bother to upgrade to Home for free. They aren't really locked into anything.
Quote from: bbmike on February 07, 2018, 06:54:55 AM
I agree it's stupid of Microsoft to even create a Windows 10 S but it is people's own stupidity if they don't bother to upgrade to Home for free. They aren't really locked into anything.
Until it's not free.
[old man rant ahead]
It's this dumbing down of everything, turning your PC's & laptops into overpowered phone OSes, where everything is blocked off, hidden, streamlined and geared towards purchases through a proprietary store. That's what stings the most, especially to folks who are used to having control and the power to make the equipment do what they want to do, NOT what the straight-jacketed OS overlords want you to do.
Your average Joe won't give a shit. If their PC/laptop is like their phone everything is gravy. But that is designing down to the lowest common denominator isn't it? Plus, all the DRM, Store funnelling that gets done. All the biggies do it on phones, and now they all want to do it on our main computing devices.
This is a dystopian future run on attention grabbing distraction, unrelenting proprietary consumerism and human worth being judged by social media echo chambers and bean counting life affirming/validation stats.
http://humanetech.com
https://www.ted.com/talks/zeynep_tufekci_we_re_building_a_dystopia_just_to_make_people_click_on_ads
"Give me back my sock, you Goat bastard!"
Quote from: spelk on February 07, 2018, 07:53:06 AM
Your average Joe won't give a shit. If their PC/laptop is like their phone everything is gravy. But that is designing down to the lowest common denominator isn't it? Plus, all the DRM, Store funnelling that gets done. All the biggies do it on phones, and now they all want to do it on our main computing devices.
Except MS has to design for the lowest common denominator in addition to the high level users because every time grandma has gets hacked or a virus that was resolved by MS months earlier, then everyone blames MS. I've seen IT shops not patch their systems then get hit with a virus or attack, even though MS had patches out for more than a couple of months.
As for pointing them to only apps on the MS store, that's exactly what Apple has done for years. I don't agree with it, but their following an industry leader. And, on top of that, those 60% who won't upgrade, don't care. They have their web browsing and email. That's about all they need. Oh, and their solitaire.
Linux for the win. ;)
Now if I can only persuade Matrix/Slitherine/JTS/et al to develop all their niche wargames on Linux, I'll be sorted.
"As for pointing them to only apps on the MS store, that's exactly what Apple has done for years. I don't agree with it, but their following an industry leader. And, on top of that, those 60% who won't upgrade, don't care. They have their web browsing and email. That's about all they need. Oh, and their solitaire."
All the people complaining about MS and getting locked into anything have obviously never worked in the iOS environment. You can't do anything without Apple's approval. It is the main reason most businesses haven't supported iOS devices until recently. Apple has made a concerted effort to create some cracks in the system to get at field service workers and warehouse workers.
Apple devices are the definition of the least common denominator in an OS. It very difficult to get yourself in trouble playing around with it. My wife has an iPad and I have an MS Surface. She can't believe what I can do with the Surface. But she also sees me tinkering and tweaking it all the time.
People forget how impressive MS Windows really is. It runs on millions of devices that MS has no control over, other than market standards. iOS only runs on devices directly designed and built under the complete control of Apple. I am still astounded that MS can work as well as it does on such a huge variety of devices and in so many very complex applications.
My brother compares PCs to cars. Up through the 1980's a lot of people used to tinker on their cars. Into the 1990's, computers became more common and the tinkering market has died a slow death. Yes, people still do it, but its generally some hardcores. PCs are the same way. Anyone who was buying PCs up through the 1990's probably tinkered a lot on them and tweaked them. Now, cars and PCs are appliances that just work. To upgrade them, you buy a new one. Its the Toyota effect on cars and the Apple effect on PCs. MS is caught in between old and new.
What concerns me is that I use my PC for work and have invested a lot of money in specialist software. What happens if they lock it down? Windows will be fracking ransomware for professional users who rely on their PC's for business.
Quote from: Ian C on February 07, 2018, 08:42:57 AM
What concerns me is that I use my PC for work and have invested a lot of money in specialist software. What happens if they lock it down? Windows will be fracking ransomware for professional users who rely on their PC's for business.
I'm in the same boat. 3D design software, FEA software, CFD software.....
tsk.... Windows Enterprise edition?
Windows Boobyprize Edition[tm].
Quote from: Gusington on February 07, 2018, 09:55:25 AM
Windows Boobyprize Edition[tm].
I hear Windows Pr0nHub Edition handles graphics better and its visuals are great
^Lotsa popups.
Quote from: RyanE on February 07, 2018, 08:25:33 AM
"As for pointing them to only apps on the MS store, that's exactly what Apple has done for years. I don't agree with it, but their following an industry leader. And, on top of that, those 60% who won't upgrade, don't care. They have their web browsing and email. That's about all they need. Oh, and their solitaire."
All the people complaining about MS and getting locked into anything have obviously never worked in the iOS environment. You can't do anything without Apple's approval. It is the main reason most businesses haven't supported iOS devices until recently. Apple has made a concerted effort to create some cracks in the system to get at field service workers and warehouse workers.
Apple devices are the definition of the least common denominator in an OS. It very difficult to get yourself in trouble playing around with it. My wife has an iPad and I have an MS Surface. She can't believe what I can do with the Surface. But she also sees me tinkering and tweaking it all the time.
People forget how impressive MS Windows really is. It runs on millions of devices that MS has no control over, other than market standards. iOS only runs on devices directly designed and built under the complete control of Apple. I am still astounded that MS can work as well as it does on such a huge variety of devices and in so many very complex applications.
+1. Great points.