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Title: Total War...1942?
Post by: Gusington on September 25, 2018, 05:37:30 PM
Not sure quite what to make of this...is it ridiculous or is it genius? Total War: 1942 - created in the Rome: Total War engine.

Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: JasonPratt on September 25, 2018, 06:38:39 PM
...that was freaky.  ???
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Sir Slash on September 25, 2018, 06:42:13 PM
I saw that this morning. I love the idea and the work put into the mod but.... come-on. WWII Total War?  :o   Why do the tanks look like charging cavalry? The next game for me to play while dead drunk.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: JasonPratt on September 25, 2018, 06:47:04 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on September 25, 2018, 06:42:13 PM
I saw that this morning. I love the idea and the work put into the mod but.... come-on.

Ditto. I have nothing but admiration for the obvious effort put into the mod, but the end result is that everything in WW2 becomes desperate Soviet human / tank waves.

...maybe it should be Total World War I?
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Jarhead0331 on September 25, 2018, 06:56:57 PM
It has Swastikas. Nazi fanboys will be all over this.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: SirAndrewD on September 25, 2018, 07:04:38 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on September 25, 2018, 06:42:13 PM
The next game for me to play while dead drunk.

You play any other way?
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: MengJiao on September 25, 2018, 07:14:45 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on September 25, 2018, 06:38:39 PM
...that was freaky.  ???

   And oddly disturbing?
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Gusington on September 25, 2018, 07:47:02 PM
I definitely found it oddly disturbing. Not sure why.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: JasonPratt on September 25, 2018, 08:18:27 PM
Quote from: Gusington on September 25, 2018, 07:47:02 PM
I definitely found it oddly disturbing. Not sure why.

...seeing swastikas in a game perhaps? It's like, "that should be there, yeah! -- but not, ack, noooo!"

Not even counting the connotations of what they stood for.  :buck2: That should disturb anyone.  But particularly those whose people got rounded up.

That said, the mass charges out in the open creep me out, too.  ::)
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: jomni on September 25, 2018, 08:19:04 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on September 25, 2018, 06:42:13 PM
I saw that this morning. I love the idea and the work put into the mod but.... come-on. WWII Total War?  :o   Why do the tanks look like charging cavalry? The next game for me to play while dead drunk.

Warhammer had tanks, why not use that engin instead?
And I'd love to see Hitler and Stalin hero units.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: JasonPratt on September 25, 2018, 08:21:15 PM
Quote from: jomni on September 25, 2018, 08:19:04 PM
Warhammer had tanks, why not use that engin instead?
And I'd love to see Hitler and Stalin hero units.

That was my first thought, too, although then I figured it was too obvious so there must be an engine problem?
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Jarhead0331 on September 25, 2018, 08:44:19 PM
Watched it a few times. Definitely gives me the douche chills.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Moreb on September 25, 2018, 08:53:10 PM
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Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: JasonPratt on September 25, 2018, 08:57:40 PM
Well, I didn't hate it! -- it's just... .....weird. Too much noble effort for me to hate though.  O:-)
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: JasonPratt on September 25, 2018, 09:13:27 PM
(Okay, I just thought: "I wonder if the mod will include women generals randomly spawning into the campaign?", and I started snickering uncontrollably... definitely time to go to bed.)
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Moreb on September 25, 2018, 09:14:53 PM
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Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: mikeck on September 25, 2018, 09:53:12 PM
Hey...at lease someone is FINALLY trying to make a World War 2 PC game! I mean, in the category of WW2 computer games, one takes what one can get. Beggars can't be choosers. Since there are no real time World war 2 games and fewer WW2 strategy level games, it seems to me that this guy was simply filling a TOTALLY underrepresented era in gaming.

It's different. Last thing we need is another non-WW2 game flooding the market. So I say bravo
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Moreb on September 25, 2018, 10:08:27 PM
Quote from: mikeck on September 25, 2018, 09:53:12 PM
Hey...at lease someone is FINALLY trying to make a World War 2 PC game! I mean, in the category of WW2 computer games, one takes what one can get. Beggars can't be choosers. Since there are no real time World war 2 games and fewer WW2 strategy level games, it seems to me that this guy was simply filling a TOTALLY underrepresented era in gaming.

It's different. Last thing we need is another non-WW2 game flooding the market. So I say bravo

WW2 is so under represented. #WWII4Eva
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: jomni on September 25, 2018, 10:39:54 PM
I think I know why Rome was used as base.
The modder might have wanted a map of Europe for the strategy side.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Sir Slash on September 25, 2018, 10:41:53 PM
It could work. Remember the British Chariots defeating the German War Elephants by sending waves of Flaming Pigs at them during the Battle of El Alamein? Me neither. But it would've been great.  :bd:
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: jomni on September 25, 2018, 11:24:26 PM
You mean this German Elefant?
https://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=635
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Micha on September 26, 2018, 03:51:03 AM
There are 1000 000 WW2 games out there. Is this really needed and worth so much work ?
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Staggerwing on September 26, 2018, 05:29:28 AM
Looks like some of the nations involved developed hover tanks.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: jomni on September 26, 2018, 07:23:26 AM
Quote from: Micha on September 26, 2018, 03:51:03 AM
There are 1000 000 WW2 games out there. Is this really needed and worth so much work ?

Of course.  We really need one in the Total War engine.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: JasonPratt on September 26, 2018, 07:44:58 AM
Quote from: jomni on September 25, 2018, 10:39:54 PM
I think I know why Rome was used as base.
The modder might have wanted a map of Europe for the strategy side.

#:-)

Yep, I was definitely missing that.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: airboy on September 26, 2018, 10:02:55 PM
The way the troops marched it could have been Total War 1914.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: mikeck on September 27, 2018, 12:21:30 AM
Quote from: Micha on September 26, 2018, 03:51:03 AM
There are 1000 000 WW2 games out there. Is this really needed and worth so much work ?

I'm the first to whine about "another WW2" game...Primarily when people advocate that a non-WW2 game should actually be made into one. For example, when AGEOD took suggestions for their next game and 25% voted WW2(seriously?). So instead of "Wars of Succession" I could have gotten WW2


But I guess if someone wants to spend his own time modding a game, it doesn't deprive me of anything. I think it's silly but, if that's his thing...so be it
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: SirAndrewD on September 27, 2018, 01:16:45 AM
Quote from: airboy on September 26, 2018, 10:02:55 PM
The way the troops marched it could have been Total War 1914.

As a history teacher, I vouch for the complete historical accuracy of this mod.

All it's lacking are the Atomic Battle Krakens.

Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Gusington on September 27, 2018, 06:59:48 AM
I wish it was Total War 1914.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: JasonPratt on September 27, 2018, 08:18:07 AM
...okay, I'm not gonna lie, I would ABSOLUTELY bling up like that armor with a recurve bow and arrow if I was a tank commander, and shout out dramatic lines.  \m/
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Sir Slash on September 27, 2018, 10:12:25 AM
You can't deny if the Huns had tanks they would've been unstoppable.  ::)  Until the Roman A-10's arrived that is.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: JasonPratt on September 27, 2018, 12:31:36 PM
Or the Gothic LAWs!

The Franks with their famous Maginot line of 88s, on the other hand.... not a good idea for the Huns to attack straight into that, but it does have some obvious weaknesses.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: DoctorQuest on September 27, 2018, 02:42:51 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on September 27, 2018, 10:12:25 AM
You can't deny if the Huns had tanks they would've been unstoppable.  ::)  Until the Roman A-10's arrived that is.

I thought the Romans used SU-25s.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: SirAndrewD on September 27, 2018, 03:57:04 PM
Quote from: Gusington on September 27, 2018, 06:59:48 AM
I wish it was Total War 1914.

Try the Great War Mod for NTW.

Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Gusington on September 27, 2018, 03:59:02 PM
^I did. It never worked properly for me.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: SirAndrewD on September 27, 2018, 04:13:25 PM
Quote from: Gusington on September 27, 2018, 03:59:02 PM
^I did. It never worked properly for me.

Hm, that's unfortunate.  It's true some of those big TC's can be finicky.   

At least you have IS-2's with bow armed Hunnic commanders now.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Gusington on September 27, 2018, 05:06:19 PM
^Did you use the Great War mod with success? It really is quite tragic for me. I followed that mod in development for years, literally, only to have it be less than promised, by a long shot, when released.

:/
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: SirAndrewD on September 27, 2018, 06:34:42 PM
^  I did, and it's fun for a time.  Sadly, replicating WW1 combat, even in the early war phase, is beyond the capabilities of the NTW engine.   Even the Fall of the Samurai battles felt more authentic to early 20th Century warfare.

It's fun for a time, but then you realize that it's just never going to be what you're looking for in a WW1 game.  I'm not sure Total War could ever achieve it.

We're a long way from ever getting something that gives a good simulation of WW1 tactical level that's good looking, reasonably accurate and not mired in bad AI and micromanagement.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Destraex on September 27, 2018, 06:50:55 PM
Yep. I hate to say it. But this mod was a waste of time. Kudos for the effort and creativity though.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Gusington on September 27, 2018, 06:59:58 PM
Thanks D. I was hoping it wasn't just me.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: SirAndrewD on September 27, 2018, 07:26:40 PM
Quote from: Gusington on September 27, 2018, 06:59:58 PM
Thanks D. I was hoping it wasn't just me.

Nah, it's not just you.  It does look really good though.  I'd love to see the work they did on models and terrain done on something that was built from the ground up to simulate WW1 and preferably turn based. 

As for this mod, yeah, you can't knock the effort.  I just think Total War hits a brick wall at the end of the 19th Century in terms of capabilities.  It's best suited to its classical/medieval roots. 

The first Rome is clearly, even more problematic for the scope of this mod.   I don't mean to laugh at the hard work of the modders, but I can't help but feel they could've spent their time better elsewhere. 
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: CJReich46 on September 27, 2018, 08:12:53 PM
  :DD 

I mean..notice how the tanks turned? and what's with the archers?  I give them credit for trying though.


Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Crossroads on September 29, 2018, 02:39:30 AM
All I want to know is if they ported the Naked Fanatics from RTW to this 1942 mod. Naked Nazi Fanatics With Swastikas. What else could you wish for  :dreamer:

Edit: I recall there was some sort of modesty option with RTW for Naked Fanatics. Here, that could be implemented with Adolf's Moustache covering the strategic parts. I am definitively in!  <:-)
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Sir Slash on September 29, 2018, 10:02:51 AM
How about Patton in full armor on a white charger? Or is he more of a chariot guy you think?
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: bobarossa on September 29, 2018, 02:20:25 PM
Patton was a cavalryman so definitely the white charger.

I was really amused by the floating tanks going up a hill.  Certainly TW2 managed to get units to walk up hills correctly.  Wonder why they couldn't manage it.  I also liked that knocked out tanks seemed to be flattened like some giant had squashed them. 
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Gusington on September 29, 2018, 03:48:39 PM
Crossroads that is a hilarious post up above.
Title: Re: Total War...1942?
Post by: Crossroads on September 30, 2018, 12:08:40 AM
Quote from: Gusington on September 29, 2018, 03:48:39 PM
Crossroads that is a hilarious post up above.
;D