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Title: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: DoctorQuest on January 18, 2019, 03:18:57 PM
This was in impulse buy for me. I had never heard of the series but it looks interesting.

On sale for 75% off.

https://www.gog.com/game/brothers_in_arms_road_to_hill_30

https://www.gog.com/game/brothers_in_arms_earned_in_blood

https://www.gog.com/game/brothers_in_arms_hells_highway
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 18, 2019, 03:36:24 PM
Great games with a good story and unusual but pleasant mechanics. I liked the series alot.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Jarhead0331 on January 18, 2019, 03:53:32 PM
Road to Hill 30 and Hell's Highway are the best...I've posted some screens around here before. Graphics still hold up. Good story too.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Gusington on January 18, 2019, 04:01:10 PM
Goddammit.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: DoctorQuest on January 18, 2019, 04:18:57 PM
Gesundheit.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: JasonPratt on January 18, 2019, 04:32:56 PM
Works well on Win 8.1 through Steam, too. Or the first game does anyway, haven't gotten to the others yet.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Gusington on January 18, 2019, 05:41:36 PM
^Which do you enjoy more, The Saboteur or Brothers in Arms?
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: bbmike on January 18, 2019, 05:48:14 PM
I was interested in this. I decided to go to Steam to see if they were there and, if so, also on sale there. They were on Steam, though not on sale. Then I noticed that I had already purchased them last June.  :hide:
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Gusington on January 18, 2019, 06:11:22 PM
 :-X
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: JasonPratt on January 18, 2019, 06:29:28 PM
Quote from: Gusington on January 18, 2019, 05:41:36 PM
^Which do you enjoy more, The Saboteur or Brothers in Arms?

I finished Saboteur long ago, and played through it to the end without stopping (much).

I got stuck on a hellacious map during the first BiA game (maybe about halfway through), and gave up on it, refusing to dial down the difficulty because this was back during the days of more-or-less dialup internet and I didn't want to lose the ability to see the developer diaries which unlock as rewards for completing a level on higher difficulties.

Today I can just download those from youtube (though in the ones I have the audio is terrible). So when I rebought the series on Steam, I started over again (from scratch naturally). Got too distracted playing other things and haven't gone back, but I'm not yet up to the point where I ragequit the first time.

They are very, very, very different games, aside from a generally similar aesthetic and setting (WW2 France, often in the boonies.)

If you liked the narrative thrust of Company of Heroes' main campaign, you'll like this. If you liked Band of Brothers, this covers a lot of the same ground (based on the same memoirs if I recall correctly). Somewhat literally, since the developers went out of their way to take ground-level photo recon of actual sites traveled by the real-life airborne troops during their missions!

Be aware that BiA is just as loudly cussy as the Saboteur, maybe moreso (again like Company of Heroes), so if you're going to play it with the volume up, be situationally aware. ;)

For $15 total at GoG -- though I don't know anything about their conversion being successful -- the three games are a steal. Aside from narratively immortal NPC minions whom you order around, it's an evocative walk-through of the travails of the team.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Staggerwing on January 18, 2019, 06:35:35 PM
When I jumped over to GOG and plonked the games in my basket they price-adjusted to two-fiddy each, shebben-fiddy for all. Win!
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Gusington on January 18, 2019, 06:39:08 PM
^How'd that happen??

Thanks Pratt!
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Gusington on January 18, 2019, 06:40:00 PM
Holy crap mine went to 7.50 total too. I cannot refuse this. I am weak.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Gusington on January 18, 2019, 06:45:12 PM
Road to Hill 30 is the first one, correct? I should play that first?
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Gusington on January 18, 2019, 06:53:56 PM
Just futzing around with the settings and no game from 2005 has any right to look this good.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: DoctorQuest on January 18, 2019, 09:12:17 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on January 18, 2019, 06:35:35 PM
When I jumped over to GOG and plonked the games in my basket they price-adjusted to two-fiddy each, shebben-fiddy for all. Win!

Nobody ever listens to me.  :nerd:
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: DoctorQuest on January 18, 2019, 09:14:52 PM
Quote from: Gusington on January 18, 2019, 06:53:56 PM
Just futzing around with the settings and no game from 2005 has any right to look this good.

That's DirectX 9.0C there, son!
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: GroggyGrognard on January 18, 2019, 10:04:22 PM
Thank you for the heads up.

I may have to get this because the trip down memory lane alone is worth the price.

I fondly remember playing this with some fellow gaming buddies on the Xbox 13-14 years ago.  IIRC we played the first two BiA games on the Xbox--Road to Hill 30 and Earned in Blood. I recall our gaming group discussing how the BiA games were an innovative and challenging alternative to other "shooters" such as Call of Duty on the old Xbox. We really enjoyed the many game play aspects to BiA including skilled accuracy with weapons, the use of cover, suppressive fire, and flanking. At the time, it was a refreshing change.



Groggy

Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Grim.Reaper on January 18, 2019, 10:31:57 PM
Actually re-bought the entire series during the steam sale....was pretty cheap like $5 or so.....still works good.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Sir Slash on January 18, 2019, 10:53:38 PM
I played Road to Hill 30 on my PlayStation 2 back when it first came out. Great FPS but hard as hell to win at, course I'm not that great at FPS-ing. I hope the jump to computer works better.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: airboy on January 19, 2019, 10:06:10 AM
No shooters for me - unless I'm using a real gun.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Jarhead0331 on January 19, 2019, 10:38:04 AM
Quote from: airboy on January 19, 2019, 10:06:10 AM
No shooters for me - unless I'm using a real gun.

That is decidedly less fun when people are shooting back.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Sir Slash on January 19, 2019, 11:06:45 AM
And no 'Medic Kits' to heal you back to full health.  :'(
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: airboy on January 19, 2019, 12:43:58 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on January 19, 2019, 10:38:04 AM
Quote from: airboy on January 19, 2019, 10:06:10 AM
No shooters for me - unless I'm using a real gun.

That is decidedly less fun when people are shooting back.

True - that is why I target tasty animals.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: JasonPratt on January 19, 2019, 01:06:54 PM
Quote from: Gusington on January 18, 2019, 06:45:12 PM
Road to Hill 30 is the first one, correct? I should play that first?

Yes. Nothing technically carries over between them, except the story of the historical characters.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Gusington on January 19, 2019, 03:18:34 PM
^Excellent, thanks
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: JasonPratt on January 19, 2019, 03:20:32 PM
Both the Saboteur and BiA are photogenic snapshot producers, by the way.

Hint.

Hint hint.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: JasonPratt on January 19, 2019, 06:58:05 PM
Omigosh! -- I went to Steam to see if users had reported any problems on the second two games running, which they haven't. All games seem to run fine on Steam, any negative reviews aren't about that but about the 3rd game dumbing down the enemies a little too much.

Whereupon I discovered that I had never bought the second two games. (Well, I did, used, long ago, from NWS's store, but never installed them, and don't want to futz with Ubisoft now.)

Suspecting that Ubisoft's DRM might get in the way of the newer games, I hopped over to the GoG sale, and thought to myself, y'know, for a little less than the cost of buying 2nd and 3rd on Steam right now, I can just get all three....

....whereupon I confirmed the pricing bug ???!?!?! is still in effect! ALL THREE GAMES FOR LIKE $7.50 TOTAL!!

Instant buy. Uninstalled the Steam version. (Though who knows, maybe I can multiplay with my brother some day on two accounts, through GoG and Steam on different rigs...)
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Gusington on January 19, 2019, 09:53:35 PM
^Yes I got all three yesterday for 7.50 from GoG.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Toonces on January 19, 2019, 10:29:09 PM
This is a game/series that I've badly wanted to like, but I can't seem to get into it.

I always start, get into the first mission or two. What kills it for me, is the horrible inaccuracy of the weapons.  I've played enough FPS shooters to know how to line up an iron sight on a baddy and kill him, but for some reason in this game it seems almost as if there's a random number generator like Morrowind rolling a dice to see if I hit when I'm otherwise lined up.

Let me know if you's guys's experiences are different.  This is a game I really want to work through, but after about an hour I've always had enough.  I know it's a good game, I just can't find it for myself.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: JasonPratt on January 19, 2019, 11:37:08 PM
I've never had more than realistic problems with aiming: down the sights is always better, rifles generally better but depends. German k94 is kind of crap except for sniping. M4 is godly average. Pick up a German submachine gun pronto, ditch your 45 caliber tommy gun.

I mean, it isn't Red Orchestra, but the spread of accuracy and stopping power is fine for me.

I've noticed that the complaints for part 3 partly boil down to the weapons being too arcade shooty, unlike the moar-realism of the first two games.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Gusington on January 20, 2019, 01:44:38 PM
'youze guyz'
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Father Ted on January 20, 2019, 01:56:03 PM
Quote from: Toonces on January 19, 2019, 10:29:09 PM
What kills it for me, is the horrible inaccuracy of the weapons.  I've played enough FPS shooters to know how to line up an iron sight on a baddy and kill him, but for some reason in this game it seems almost as if there's a random number generator like Morrowind rolling a dice to see if I hit when I'm otherwise lined up.

Let me know if you's guys's experiences are different.  This is a game I really want to work through, but after about an hour I've always had enough.  I know it's a good game, I just can't find it for myself.

I had exactly the same experience - though I did play all the way through the first one.  The impression I had was that the devs were trying to say,"Look, this is realistic - it's a lot harder to shoot in real life than in a videogame", but as you say, it just generated a disconnect between shooting a bullet and its effect. A bit like war films pre-SPR.

I also struggled with the way some of the scenarios were just puzzles.

That said I enjoyed the sounds of the guns and the whole ambience of the game.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms at GOG (and on sale)
Post by: Sir Slash on January 21, 2019, 07:32:05 PM
I liked the shooting part. What killed it for me was completing a mission while getting Red, Lefty, and Joe-Bob killed and then having them show up for the next mission healthy and ready to go and wanting to talk about their girlfriend back home. I hope they fixed this at some point.