Having recently returned to Guild Wars 2 I started wondering what MMORPGs do you guys regularly play?
I generally switch back and forth between several ones (GW2 currently being the most played, with a bit of Lord of the Rings Online and Elder Scrolls Online), and always up for trying interesting new ones.
None. I hate multiplayer.
Quote from: bbmike on March 01, 2019, 08:32:32 PM
None. I hate multiplayer.
I'm not too fond of playing with randoms from the internet myself, which is why I mostly solo in MMOs.
Does this forum count as an MMORPG?
I'm going with "yes" 8)
Quote from: Tpek on March 01, 2019, 08:28:42 PM
Having recently returned to Guild Wars 2 I started wondering what MMORPGs do you guys regularly play?
I don't regularly play any, but I like LotRO a lot. Like you, I prefer to play solo and just ignore the peeps around me. This is a little easier to do in LotRO than, for example, Elder Scrolls: Online, simply because the ESO players look so flashy that they're distracting.
I do play mp survival games sometimes but that's not the same thing of course.
I currently play WoW, but my sub just lapsed and I'm not re-sub'ing. I've played MMO's since Ultima Online and I'm just burnt out on them. Trying my hand a strictly ww2 pc/miniature war gaming these days.
Never play them. Haven't found a good enough reason to even try one. Maybe one day something will change that.
Tried many, with the last serious one being Final Fantasy 14, but I always end up feeling like a donkey chasing a carrot. Not much brainpower required and just an endless loop.
While FFXIV's story is pretty well done (unlike most MMO's) its often gated behind annoying bumps in order to continue (having to do dungeons for example).
I am really burned out on the genre and much prefer a handcrafted rpg experience. It's probably why I've picked up Tabletop RPG's again.
MMO like games I do enjoy are Conan Exiles and Destiny, but their scope is so different I wouldn't call them MMORPG's.
I'm not playing any at the moment (unless you count Warframe (which you shouldn't, because it isn't an MMO)). The one I played most recently was Black Desert Online and coincidentally enough, I've just reinstalled it.
The last MMORPG I truly lost myself in was Rift, which was a superb game in my opinion. Sadly it's on life support now but people still play it. After going free to play it was, for a time, a magnificent example of how to do F2P right - although I understand that's no longer the case. I might dive in again at some point for nostalgia's sake.
Ah Rift! Now that one brings back fond memories!
Its the only MMORPG in which I have made long lasting friendships with people I've also decided to meet outside of the game.
But the game itself was amazing as well. Lots of customization, lots of different things to try out and at the time it was an absolutely beautiful game as well.
Haven't ever checked back once our guild ventured off trying other games, but I understand the game has been on life support for quite a while.
I've probably played more MMO's than I can count starting with EVE back in 2005 when there was no warp to 0. I've jumped in and out of it many times since then but it never really sticks with me for some reason. Probably played WoW the most but that ship has finally sailed for me. Warhammer Online was one of my favorites and I was really disappointed with the way Mark Jacobs made such a mess of what could have been an all time classic. Currently playing ESO and before that GW2.
Quote from: Huw the Poo on March 02, 2019, 04:09:46 AM
I'm not playing any at the moment (unless you count Warframe (which you shouldn't, because it isn't an MMO)). The one I played most recently was Black Desert Online and coincidentally enough, I've just reinstalled it.
The last MMORPG I truly lost myself in was Rift, which was a superb game in my opinion. Sadly it's on life support now but people still play it. After going free to play it was, for a time, a magnificent example of how to do F2P right - although I understand that's no longer the case. I might dive in again at some point for nostalgia's sake.
I've considered getting back to Rift, it was truly an amazing game, and a huge buffet of options for people who love playing many different styles of characters (like myself), but sadly it is indeed on life support, and is not receiving any more real updates or content additions.
I bought the most expensive version of Rift that they offered and loved it, there were all sorts of goodies in there. I still have it somewhere.
It really should have lasted longer than it did - in its prime, I mean. As Tpek said, it was just an embarrassment of riches when it came to options. The souls system was truly inspired and the dynamic events were at least as good as Guild Wars 2's a full year before the latter released. Trion clearly tried very hard to make Rift attractive to all types of MMORPG players. I absolutely loved it.
TBH, a lot of MMORPGs seem to be dying these days. Even WoW is suffering and trying the same gimmick Rift tried (and LOTRO too), a "Classic Vanilla Server" to appeal to the players' sense of nostalgia.
WoW is a fucking blight on the market, and a lot of MMORPGs would have done a lot better if it wasn't for people's addictions to that bloody game. It's not even a very good game in my opinion, and certainly shows its age; a lot of more recent MMORPGs do everything a hundred times better than WoW ever did (like Rift, ha). But the market will only accommodate so many players, and most of them cling stubbornly to WoW. Like it or not, it has surely held the genre back.
Well, be happy then that WoW is dying, especially after the controversial expanion pack, Battle for Azeroth, and the devs starting to add the terrible Level-Scaling feature that way too many MMOs are using these days to ruin any sort of fun or progress in their games.
Oh, good - but I'll believe it when I see it. If people didn't leave it for much better games, they won't leave it because of an unwelcome feature or two either. It may lose some players but what happens in the long run remains to be seen.
Quote from: Tpek on March 02, 2019, 02:07:54 PM
TBH, a lot of MMORPGs seem to be dying these days. Even WoW is suffering and trying the same gimmick Rift tried (and LOTRO too), a "Classic Vanilla Server" to appeal to the players' sense of nostalgia.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 'classic' server hasn't gone live yet, has it? I enjoyed WoW many years ago when it was first released, then tried it again last year just to see how it was...it was awful, a shell of what it once was, at least in my humble opinion.
I don't know if WoW Classic is already live, I've stopped caring about WoW some time ago.
Rift Prime and whatever the LOTRO classic servers were called, OTOH, have been up for a while now.
I put substantial hours into Everquest, WOW, City of Heroes and LotRO over the years. Elder Scrolls Online, EQII, EVE, Age of Conan and Secret World were short time flings for me. I burned out of the MMORPG scene a few years ago after being on WOW for too long and haven't been back. City of Heroes is the only one I miss (RIP Captain Fantastic and Graveyard) and I would pick it back up in a heartbeat.
@Yskonyn So Conan Exiles? I love the genre, could care less if it's an MMORPG or not. Is this worth a look?
I spent a good part of my life playing MMORPGs...going way back to the original EverQuest. But frankly the MM part started to get old....and dealing with idiots and low life who hide behind anonymity just became too much. So now any multiplayer I do is with folks I "know." A few years back, had a great time on dedicated Grogheads server for 7 Days to Die...that is the way to play.
Quote from: ArizonaTank on March 03, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
A few years back, had a great time on dedicated Grogheads server for 7 Days to Die...that is the way to play.
Quoted For Truth! :notworthy:
WOW Classic isn't live yet. Summer maybe?
To be far, Blizzard listened to the fans and added Classic. Not really a cash grab.
I too was into WOW from inception but stopped a few years ago.
Quote from: JasonPratt on March 03, 2019, 01:22:54 PM
Quote from: ArizonaTank on March 03, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
A few years back, had a great time on dedicated Grogheads server for 7 Days to Die...that is the way to play.
Quoted For Truth! :notworthy:
I often wonder if 7DTD will ever be finished. I first picked it up around Beta 4.2 and have some 2k hours under my belt. Every time I fire it back up, it's a different game. A good game or I wouldn't have so many hours invested, but still I wonder what their "end game" will look like.
Quote from: Steelgrave on March 03, 2019, 12:26:25 PM
@Yskonyn So Conan Exiles? I love the genre, could care less if it's an MMORPG or not. Is this worth a look?
A friend and I are running our own server at the moment. Its a fantastic builder / survival game, but its greatly dependent on the people on the server behaving.
Conan Exiles has this thing I call 'survival genre's catch 22': on the one hand you want to be able to build something lasting without having to start over all the time, but at the same time you need strife and action to keep gameplay exciting and fun.
Most official servers are unmoderated and try to enforce rules by restricting the times during the day or week that lets players engage in pvp and or damage structures.
I personally think PvP and Raiding shouldn't be time restricted, but rather have a few house rules to keep things orderly and fun at the same time.
Instead of having a server wipe every now and then forcing everyone to start from scratch we have gotten this idea of Seasons.
The normal server state is called Season of Reflection and runs for three months. It is governed by all normal rules for pvp and raiding (only cause enough damage to gain entry to loot what you are after). Gods are disabled.
Then comes Season of Reaving when the Gods get activated and raiding restrictions are lifted for two weeks. Ultimate carnage is allowed (our form of possible reset) and kill lists and war targets are determined.
Then comes two weeks of Season of Mending where raiding is not allowed at all, the Gods go back to their slumber and people can rebuild in relative safety (pvp is always allowed).
Thereafter a new cycle starts with a new Season of Reflection.
So I do feel the game is worth checking out, but your need to find a server that suits you.
Thanks for the info, Yskonyn. Don't think I'm ready to pull the trigger considering my lengthy backlog of games, but Exiles will be something that stays on my radar.
And I like your "Seasons". Very cool and well thought out. :bd:
In a few weeks I am going to start Elder Scrolls Online, only because a lot of gamers have commented that it is pretty good to play solo.
Quote from: Gusington on March 03, 2019, 07:41:06 PM
In a few weeks I am going to start Elder Scrolls Online, only because a lot of gamers have commented that it is pretty good to play solo.
It's a neat game, have you played the non-online Elder Scrolls games?
Yep. A little bit of Arena, a little Daggerfall, a little Morrowind, some Oblivion and a ton of Skyrim.
Quote from: Huw the Poo on March 02, 2019, 07:56:39 PM
WoW is a fucking blight on the market, and a lot of MMORPGs would have done a lot better if it wasn't for people's addictions to that bloody game. It's not even a very good game in my opinion, and certainly shows its age; a lot of more recent MMORPGs do everything a hundred times better than WoW ever did (like Rift, ha). But the market will only accommodate so many players, and most of them cling stubbornly to WoW. Like it or not, it has surely held the genre back.
Not sure it is a blight on the market, even in its current state I would take WOW over 98% of Eastern MMO's. Now most of those are a blight on the MMO market.
Was an avid LOTRO played until around 2010, went back after it went FTP and it just isn't the same. The cash shop is a HUGE turn off, if they would have just removed it for the recent Legendary servers I would have played longer than 1 month. I mean you are already paying 15 a month so why not?
May play a bit of WOW classic just to see how it is, as early WOW wasn't bad at all I just preferred EQ2.
ESO is pretty good, probably the king of MMOs currently with GW2 and FF14 close behind.
Been playing Star Wars Galaxies on the Legends private server and it is pretty awesome.
What I REALLY don't like is that you still have the immersion killing 'all players need to kill the same boss' over and over again.
The story is ok and they tried hard to provide a singleplayer quality rpg experience in a multiplayer environment, but for me it just kills immersion.
That and lots of filler quests are just go to x to kill y amount of z.
I played loads of WOW for years and LOTRO for a bit, Warhammer was great too but shortlived, most of the others I only played short term.
But there is room for new ones I think but the single player needs to be improved a lot to bring me back full time to one.
@Flick, you are aware of Return of Reckoning (https://www.returnofreckoning.com/) right?
@Achilles, I played a bit of FF14 at launch and came back to it for a month about a year ago, but could never really get into it.
Quote from: Tpek on March 04, 2019, 07:27:44 AM
@Flick, you are aware of Return of Reckoning (https://www.returnofreckoning.com/) right?
@Achilles, I played a bit of FF14 at launch and came back to it for a month about a year ago, but could never really get into it.
I had a lot of problems when they first appeared is it sorted now?
RoR is a work in progress. They have fixed many issues and are heavily modifying the original WAR. There was some kind of serious falling out within the dev team last year, but I did not follow all that. I've played it off and on for a while. Off of it right now.
WoW is still the best solo rpg mmo out there, imo. Yes, it has asshats, but there is a reason it's still going strong after 14+ years.
Quote from: Steelgrave on March 03, 2019, 02:27:04 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on March 03, 2019, 01:22:54 PM
Quote from: ArizonaTank on March 03, 2019, 01:07:31 PM
A few years back, had a great time on dedicated Grogheads server for 7 Days to Die...that is the way to play.
Quoted For Truth! :notworthy:
I often wonder if 7DTD will ever be finished. I first picked it up around Beta 4.2 and have some 2k hours under my belt. Every time I fire it back up, it's a different game. A good game or I wouldn't have so many hours invested, but still I wonder what their "end game" will look like.
I don't know, but I have about 350 hours into it...bought it maybe five years ago on sale. Fun Pimps seem to take two steps forward and one back from time to time...but overall its moving forward and is a great ride.