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Title: Mandalorian
Post by: Jarhead0331 on December 25, 2019, 09:31:38 AM
Surprised not to see any chatter about this. I signed up for the Disney+ free trial to check this out. Made my way through 3 of the episodes so far. It's good. Not great, though...just good. Budget and effects seem to be a mixed bag. Some things look really cool, while others are a bit corny or fake looking. Story is generally interesting and it's nice to get some more of a glimpse into the life of a mandalorian. It takes place during an interesting period, right after the fall of the Empire after the battle of Endor. There has been one mention of the fledgling new republic.

I honestly don't understand the craze with baby yoda. He is cute and can be funny, and all, but people on social media are literally obsessed.

Anyway, while it's enjoyable so far, can't say it would be worth signing up for Disney+ on it's own, if you had no other use for this streaming service. Since I have you go children, I'll stick with it, but YMMV.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: LoganismyHERO on December 25, 2019, 10:57:31 AM
Social media world is just plan....weird. I don't get it.

Love the show. It's slow at times, but it's Star Wars. You can put a turd on Tatooine and it would be a treasured landmark for me. O0
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: JasonPratt on December 25, 2019, 11:48:44 AM
Haven't watched yet. Tried to get a Dis+ account for Dad for Christmas (partly for this reason, partly for new Marvel shows later), but it only works on select TVs and accessories, none of which he has. (e.g. he has a Vizio, but it doesn't work on Vizio. Works on LG! -- not on Vizio. One hundred percent a licensing thing of course.)
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: DoctorQuest on December 25, 2019, 01:06:36 PM
Buy him a Roku.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Gusington on December 25, 2019, 05:21:29 PM
My daughters and I have been loving the Mandalorian.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: SirAndrewD on December 26, 2019, 04:17:44 AM
The Mandalorian is extremely good.

So much better than the Disney sequels. 

Shocking.   You give a show to John Faverau, who launched the MCU, and Dave Filoni, who did Clone Wars and Rebels and worked directly with George Lucas and was his protegee, and you'll get something good.

No, Mandalorian is better than you've said.  It goes back to the Lucas original intent.   It's pulp, with elements from Samurai films and westerns.   It is EXACTLY what Lucas intended, serialized sci-fi pulp fiction.

It's the closest thing to what the core of Star Wars was supposed to be about since 1977.

And Baby Yoda is the new standard for social media.  The ever presence of it is fine, it's just the modern response to an idea that could've been done a while ago.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Jarhead0331 on December 26, 2019, 07:48:08 AM
I think they are doing an overall good job with the show. It's a tough subject. Most of what the mainstream knows of mandalorians comes from the Fetts, and my understanding is that Jango was not even mandalorian by birth, but was adopted by mandalorians after his parents were killed. Boba, of course, is a clone of Jango, who also raised him.

Neither Fett had a lot of on screen personality and boba was definitely a silent killer with only a handful of lines. Here, they need to create a likable character who must interact with everyone else in the show so they have to give him some personality. I just wonder if someone who has the discipline to NEVER take his helmet off would have much humor, patience or tolerance, much less, compassion, for anyone or anything.

As an aside, is anyone having technical issues with the streaming? Disney+ has been very problematic for me and I have issues so far with every episode I have watched. I've been watching in my bedroom which has the weakest WiFi in the house...maybe that's is my issue?
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: DoctorQuest on December 26, 2019, 09:41:09 AM
I can't speak to Disney+ but I have a couple of other streaming apps that struggle with weak WiFi notability Netflix and Tablo.

Have you tried D+ on a different device that might have a stronger WiFi connection?
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Jarhead0331 on December 26, 2019, 10:03:49 AM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on December 26, 2019, 09:41:09 AM

Have you tried D+ on a different device that might have a stronger WiFi connection?

Not yet, but as the most logical approach to trouble shooting, it is at the top of my list of things to try.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: DoctorQuest on December 26, 2019, 10:15:42 AM
Copy that..... Forgive me... I'm a father..

(https://www.joepaduda.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/wpid-i-am-not-always-captain-obvious-but-when-i-am-i-make-it-obvious-thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: SirAndrewD on December 26, 2019, 04:23:00 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on December 26, 2019, 07:48:08 AM
I think they are doing an overall good job with the show. It's a tough subject. Most of what the mainstream knows of mandalorians comes from the Fetts, and my understanding is that Jango was not even mandalorian by birth, but was adopted by mandalorians after his parents were killed. Boba, of course, is a clone of Jango, who also raised him.

Neither Fett had a lot of on screen personality and boba was definitely a silent killer with only a handful of lines. Here, they need to create a likable character who must interact with everyone else in the show so they have to give him some personality. I just wonder if someone who has the discipline to NEVER take his helmet off would have much humor, patience or tolerance, much less, compassion, for anyone or anything.


Yeah, Jango wasn't a Mandalorian at all.  He just had a set of their armor, or at least that's what the Manalorians said of of him in Clone Wars. 

The show resonates a lot more for me because I watched all of Clone Wars and Rebels, and there's a lot about their society in there.  Seeing it translated to live action has been exciting for me, but it can be lost on audiences that just watch the films. 

I actually feel more harshly than you on the no removing the helmet thing.  It doesn't actually connect with anything we've known about Mandalorians before.  In Clone Wars and Rebels Mandalorians went helmetless a lot, sometimes entirely.   So this is a new thing for this show.  It hasn't really been explained where that tradition came from, but it can only be a very recent one lore wise.   I think it'd have been better to leave that behind and let us connect a bit more with the character.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Jarhead0331 on December 30, 2019, 09:50:08 AM
I finished the series over the weekend. Episodes 6, 7 and 8 were really the strongest of the bunch. Overall, I enjoyed it and would like to see the series continue and expand. With the way it ended, I would be very surprised to not see a season 2. I still feel like the first season was merely "good" as opposed to "great". However, it does get bonus points for being the only live action Star Wars series available on TV. 
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Gusington on December 30, 2019, 09:52:12 AM
My older daughter told me that season 2 has been announced.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Grim.Reaper on December 30, 2019, 03:26:06 PM
definitely coming back...they have a lot of merchandise to sell

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/the-mandalorian-season-2-jon-favreau-1203452638/
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Gusington on December 30, 2019, 05:40:36 PM
Bay Yodas for all!

BTW I just installed this newly updated mod for Star Wars: Empire at War (Gold Edition) and it is insanely impressive, if any of you are interested:

https://www.pcgamer.com/re-fight-the-galactic-civil-war-with-this-gorgeous-star-wars-empire-at-war-mod/
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: bobarossa on January 07, 2020, 02:37:53 PM
Just watched the first four episodes at a friends house.  They had gotten Disney+ for their grandkids and did not know anything about the show.  We were very surprised at how good the shows were.  Still not sure why the other Mandalorians saved his ass when he stole baby yoda back.  Note: I am only a casual watcher of Stars Wars stuff.  I haven't seen the last two movies yet and have only read a couple of books.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: SirAndrewD on January 07, 2020, 04:51:32 PM
Quote from: bobarossa on January 07, 2020, 02:37:53 PM
.  Still not sure why the other Mandalorians saved his ass when he stole baby yoda back.  Note: I am only a casual watcher of Stars Wars stuff.  I haven't seen the last two movies yet and have only read a couple of books.

Pretty much as simple as Mandalorians have each others backs for the most part.  They're clan based society, there aren't many of them left, and they'll fight to protect their own. Their own laws are higher than any oaths to to other governments or guilds.  They also sided against the Empire in the war, the Empire essentially destroyed their culture and stole their resources, and they weren't going to turn down an excuse to screw the Imperial Client over.

You'd have to consume a lot of content from Clone Wars and Rebels to really get a good feel for their backstory, but their actions do make sense in the greater lore.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Gusington on January 07, 2020, 06:43:10 PM
Clone Wars and Rebels both cover a lot of the Mandalorian culture, eh? Got me some watching to do.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: SirAndrewD on January 07, 2020, 07:30:54 PM
Quote from: Gusington on January 07, 2020, 06:43:10 PM
Clone Wars and Rebels both cover a lot of the Mandalorian culture, eh? Got me some watching to do.

A whole lot, and a massive amount of backstory about the Mandalorians.   In fact, the last shot of Mandalorian Season 1 makes virtually no sense if you haven't watched Clone Wars and Rebels.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Staggerwing on January 07, 2020, 07:47:39 PM
Quote from: SirAndrewD on January 07, 2020, 07:30:54 PM
Quote from: Gusington on January 07, 2020, 06:43:10 PM
Clone Wars and Rebels both cover a lot of the Mandalorian culture, eh? Got me some watching to do.

A whole lot, and a massive amount of backstory about the Mandalorians.   In fact, the last shot of Mandalorian Season 1 makes virtually no sense if you haven't watched Clone Wars and Rebels.

Are you referring to "I've got to get one of those..."?
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: SirAndrewD on January 07, 2020, 07:52:09 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on January 07, 2020, 07:47:39 PM

Are you referring to "I've got to get one of those..."?

No, to the import of the weapon seen in the hands of Gideon.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Staggerwing on January 07, 2020, 08:04:43 PM
Oh... the you-know-what[spoiler]Darksaber[/spoiler]...

I've heard of it but confess that I don't know much about it at all.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: SirAndrewD on January 07, 2020, 08:09:00 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on January 07, 2020, 08:04:43 PM
Oh... the you-know-what[spoiler]Darksaber[/spoiler]...

I've heard of it but confess that I don't know much about it at all.

Yeah, that's it.  It's hugely important to the Mandalorian Story lines in Clone Wars and Rebels.

[spoiler]It's basically the symbol of state.  The Lord/Lady of the Mandalorian people holds it.  The fact that Gideon has it means a major character from Clone Wars/Rebels has to be dead, because she'd never let an Imperial have it while she was alive. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Gusington on January 07, 2020, 08:10:42 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Staggerwing on January 07, 2020, 08:12:59 PM
I may have to go and watch those animated series. IIRC, they're all on Disney+ now.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: SirAndrewD on January 07, 2020, 08:51:22 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on January 07, 2020, 08:12:59 PM
I may have to go and watch those animated series. IIRC, they're all on Disney+ now.

They're good but can be childish at points. 

Season 1-2 of Clone Wars was primarily aimed at kids and includes and entire story arc of Jar Jar.  In Season 3 Lucas took a direct interest in the show and it changed significantly becoming adult and more serialized.  Even though it matured into a different show, you can't skip season 1-2.  There's a lot of significant character stuff. 

Rebels mostly is aimed at the under 13 group, but it has some story arcs that are for adults.  It's far more a kids show, it never reaches some of the very heavy violence Clone Wars starts to feature (Clone Wars has an Apocalypse Now episode set) but it still has significant lore for the SW universe.   

The Mandalorian arc that goes through both series is a standout as some of the best Star Wars has to offer.   In Rebels, the material with Thrawn, the Emperor, the Mandalorians and some of the bigger themes of the nature of the force are good.   

I suggest both highly, especially Clone Wars post season 3.  I just caution that you should be prepared to go through some children's fare.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Staggerwing on January 07, 2020, 09:55:30 PM
I'm sure I'll be fine. The very first thing I watched after subbing to Disney+ was the premier episode of Tailspin.  ;D
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: SirAndrewD on January 07, 2020, 10:38:36 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on January 07, 2020, 09:55:30 PM
I'm sure I'll be fine. The very first thing I watched after subbing to Disney+ was the premier episode of Tailspin.  ;D

I think you'll be fine.  But I'll admit, as insanely devoted a fan to Star Wars as I am, Clone Wars initially lost me after its first few episodes.   The pilot movie is awful and a lot of season one is really warmed over tripe. 

Years later I decided to power through and was richly rewarded for the resolve. 

I know a lot of other people that never made it through Clone Wars because they hit a wall early, especially with the Jar Jar episodes. 

Rebels is a bit less jarring, it's a good watch and it's never honestly bad, just sometimes a bit childish.   It doesn't have the extreme and shocking change Clone Wars has when it decides to shift gears.   Clone Wars goes from episode themes of Jar Jar bumbling around and baby Hutts smelling bad to PTSD, torture, targeting of civilians in war, and some REALLY surreal explorations of the nature of the force.

My other massive endorsement of Clone Wars is how it portrays Anakin.  Matt Lanter was a much better Anakin than Christensen.  He in his voice incorporates Vader's inflections and occasional wit, and as the war drags on him, his menace.  He has explosions of violence that stem from his experience in war that truly show he's breaking behind his heroic mask. He's an Anakin I can see becoming Vader, and he massively improves Revenge of the Sith knowing his background from the animated series. 
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Sir Slash on January 10, 2020, 10:45:43 PM
I liked Clone Wars too but only when I was in the mood for a Star Wars fix. I lost touch with the series when it was pulled from Netflix and never finished it.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Martok on January 15, 2020, 01:28:11 PM
With all the acclaim Mandalorian is getting, I'm almost tempted to get Disney+.  Almost. 




Quote from: Gusington on December 30, 2019, 05:40:36 PM
Bay Yodas for all!

BTW I just installed this newly updated mod for Star Wars: Empire at War (Gold Edition) and it is insanely impressive, if any of you are interested:

https://www.pcgamer.com/re-fight-the-galactic-civil-war-with-this-gorgeous-star-wars-empire-at-war-mod/
Damn, that does look pretty good; I'll have to check it out.  Thanks, Gus
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Gusington on January 15, 2020, 01:59:31 PM
Try it, you must.

Someone say Jar Jar episodes?

:/
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: bobarossa on January 15, 2020, 03:00:04 PM
Just checked and I have this game in my GOG library from 4 years ago!  I guess I will have to finally install it.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Jarhead0331 on January 15, 2020, 03:30:25 PM
Quote from: bobarossa on January 15, 2020, 03:00:04 PM
Just checked and I have this game in my GOG library from 4 years ago!  I guess I will have to finally install it.

Errrmm...we're talking about a TV show, brah.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: bobarossa on January 15, 2020, 06:01:03 PM
Was replying to Martok's post at bottom of last page.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Gusington on January 15, 2020, 06:31:23 PM
Star Wars: Empire at War?
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Martok on January 16, 2020, 08:11:09 AM
Quote from: bobarossa on January 15, 2020, 06:01:03 PM
Was replying to Martok's post at bottom of last page.
Quote from: Gusington on January 15, 2020, 06:31:23 PM
Star Wars: Empire at War?
Correct.  Even unmodded, it's a good game and worth playing. 
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Gusington on January 16, 2020, 08:21:34 AM
I played the original long ago. This new mod looks next-level!
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: DoctorQuest on January 16, 2020, 09:10:28 AM
Quote from: bobarossa on January 15, 2020, 06:01:03 PM
Was replying to Martok's post at bottom of last page.

Thread's never get derailed here. Never....  :DD
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: LoganismyHERO on January 16, 2020, 09:47:42 AM
Tried installing this mod.......  :-[
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Jarhead0331 on January 16, 2020, 10:12:45 AM
Quote from: LoganismyHERO on January 16, 2020, 09:47:42 AM
Tried installing this mod.......  :-[

Did you add the necessary code to the .exe in the steam properties menu?
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: bobarossa on January 16, 2020, 10:15:55 AM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on January 16, 2020, 09:10:28 AM
Quote from: bobarossa on January 15, 2020, 06:01:03 PM
Was replying to Martok's post at bottom of last page.

Thread's never get derailed here. Never....  :DD
At least it wasn't about dongles.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: Gusington on January 16, 2020, 12:47:50 PM
It may yet be.
Title: Re: Mandalorian
Post by: LoganismyHERO on January 16, 2020, 03:14:55 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on January 16, 2020, 10:12:45 AM
Quote from: LoganismyHERO on January 16, 2020, 09:47:42 AM
Tried installing this mod.......  :-[

Did you add the necessary code to the .exe in the steam properties menu?

Mine is the GOG version. I'll take another shot at this.

Thanks JH