Start watching at 51:50! OMG! Could this be the next revolution in wargaming? :clap: :notworthy:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/598408190 (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/598408190)
Wow...
Impressive
Great post. Fascinating to catch.
Holy shit! Is that DCS integration?! :smitten: That IS awesome!
Too bad we will never get our hands on the Pro version, though. Do we have any idea why they streamed this in public?
Wow. Just wow.
Request more information, please. :notworthy:
Now what would a marriage of a modern task force admiral with cmo pro mean for the future of gaming?
That does look pretty sweet. :clap:
commercial flight simulator :timeout:
I swear, something like what's in that video is the game I have always wanted. I've often thought of starting a thread on the exact subject, but have just been too lazy.
Games that marry the strategic/operational layer to a flight simulator....Oooh lala. I think there was a game a long time ago that did that, Task Force 1942 or something like that.
I've always wondered how awesome it would be to have something like WitP where when you launch an airstrike you could drop into IL-2 and actually fly the strike rather than have the computer just number crunch and resolve it.
If we ever get something like what's in that video, I may never leave the house again. That is shockingly close, if not better, than what's currently available to the US military. Just amazing. What a fantastic time to be a gamer lately.
Quote from: Toonces on April 21, 2020, 08:29:07 PM
Games that marry the strategic/operational layer to a flight simulator....Oooh lala. I think there was a game a long time ago that did that, Task Force 1942 or something like that.
loved that game...
Other games that allowed you fight the strategic / operational war, then zoom in to jump into a vehicle for the fight...
Battle of Britain II by Rowan...the game was still being sold by Matrix until fairly recently.
Their Finest Hour...LucasArts...the 80s...my C128...
Battlezone
Pacific Storm: Allies
Air Conflicts: Pacific Carriers
Muzzle Velocity...going way back, Digi4Fun, WWII operational / first person shooter
and probably a dozen others since the beginning of PC... but you are right, they are mostly older games....and not all of them were that good. But Battle of Britain II was excellent
You are right, none recently... that is sad.
Yes, BoB2 was awesome. I just can't get it to run on my Win10 machine.
How about EF2000? I think that might have had a operational level.
Quote from: Toonces on April 21, 2020, 10:15:30 PM
Yes, BoB2 was awesome. I just can't get it to run on my Win10 machine.
How about EF2000? I think that might have had a operational level.
V2.0 added a detailed layer of tactical control. The subsequent F22 Total Air War further expanded those features.
Arguably Eugen's Wargame series and Steel Division 2 do that as well.
Quote from: Con on April 21, 2020, 06:26:57 PM
Now what would a marriage of a modern task force admiral with cmo pro mean for the future of gaming?
My death :))
Jokes aside, kuddos for the smooth inter-product integration. I mean, it's not the same dev team, let alone the same publisher.
Like everything though, it's coming together over there like it's coming together in other places (especially within the same software environment) - but it's pleasing to see that one of the first to pull it out so well happens to have gone the way of cross-platforming, and succeeded in doing so O0
Quote from: hellfish6 on April 21, 2020, 11:38:03 PM
Arguably Eugen's Wargame series and Steel Division 2 do that as well.
How so? There is no simulator aspect of either title that lets a player directly control a single unit from a first person perspective.
Sadly, I've learned that this feature is not currently planned to be available in the "commercial" version of CMO. I'm not sure I see the logic of excluding the "commercial" version of CMO from the feature that lets it integrate with a "commercial" flight sim. I'll try to get more of an explanation on this.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 22, 2020, 05:47:55 AM
Sadly, I've learned that this feature is not currently planned to be available in the "commercial" version of CMO. I'm not sure I see the logic of excluding the "commercial" version of CMO from the feature that lets it integrate with a "commercial" flight sim. I'll try to get more of an explanation on this.
Hence my question if we know what the reasoning was to stream this to the public?
Quote from: Yskonyn on April 22, 2020, 07:00:23 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 22, 2020, 05:47:55 AM
Sadly, I've learned that this feature is not currently planned to be available in the "commercial" version of CMO. I'm not sure I see the logic of excluding the "commercial" version of CMO from the feature that lets it integrate with a "commercial" flight sim. I'll try to get more of an explanation on this.
Hence my question if we know what the reasoning was to stream this to the public?
The information I have is that "for now" it isn't planned for commercial build. That at least leaves the door open. I've asked for more details and an explanation for the rationale.
Quote from: Yskonyn on April 22, 2020, 07:00:23 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 22, 2020, 05:47:55 AM
Sadly, I've learned that this feature is not currently planned to be available in the "commercial" version of CMO. I'm not sure I see the logic of excluding the "commercial" version of CMO from the feature that lets it integrate with a "commercial" flight sim. I'll try to get more of an explanation on this.
Hence my question if we know what the reasoning was to stream this to the public?
They mentioned during the stream (min. 26) that things like this are normally discussed in private meetings. As they can't meet in person for the time being they opted to use for their twitch channel.
For now this could be a weekly feature.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 22, 2020, 05:43:08 AM
Quote from: hellfish6 on April 21, 2020, 11:38:03 PM
Arguably Eugen's Wargame series and Steel Division 2 do that as well.
How so? There is no simulator aspect of either title that lets a player directly control a single unit from a first person perspective.
Operational and tactical integration...
Quote from: hellfish6 on April 22, 2020, 08:57:34 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 22, 2020, 05:43:08 AM
Quote from: hellfish6 on April 21, 2020, 11:38:03 PM
Arguably Eugen's Wargame series and Steel Division 2 do that as well.
How so? There is no simulator aspect of either title that lets a player directly control a single unit from a first person perspective.
Operational and tactical integration...
I don't think that's really the exciting unique part of the announcement. Personally, I'm focused on the integration of an operational wargame with a traditional flight sim platform. That is rare, and certainly not something that Wargame or SD2 is capable of.