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Title: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: demjansk1942 on October 26, 2020, 04:38:17 AM
I am thinking of getting a new monitor for some of my battles on Battlefield 5.  I use a LG 34" flat screen tv monitor now, however, I think it's time for a new one sine I have a decent setup. 

Just curious about what other gamers like. 

Thanks
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: Gusington on October 26, 2020, 08:06:51 AM
I have had Acer monitors for the last 10 years and they have been excellent.
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: Pete Dero on October 26, 2020, 08:58:39 AM
144 Hz monitor worth it? : http://www.grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=24088.msg659686#msg659686
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: Yskonyn on October 26, 2020, 10:22:08 AM
BF 5 is a resource hog.
I am unable to get it to 144 fps stable on my rig which exceeds recommended specs. A few mates with even beefier systems have the same problem.

I run at 80 to 105 fps on 2160x1440 with most settings at medium on a GTX1080

However, I do feel a 144hz Free/Gsync monitor is worth it if you play shooters regularly even if you cannot reach max refreshrate.
The absence of tearing and the very low latency is absolutely noticable!

Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: FarAway Sooner on October 26, 2020, 01:29:59 PM
As is so often the case with a monitor, graphics cards play a key role in driving up frame rates and resolution to acceptable levels.  I recently picked up a 34" Dell D3220-SGF and love it, powered by an RX-580 GPU (the GPU is a mid-range power-hog by current standards), but I think I got more enjoyment out of the QHD resolution than I did the boost in frame rates.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-32-led-curved-qhd-freesync-monitor-with-hdr/6375331.p?skuId=6375331
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: demjansk1942 on October 26, 2020, 02:48:48 PM
Thanks guys for the responses, I have a Super 2070, super fast Ram and a i7 9700k, 3.60 cpu

I like the way the games look now but refresh rate is 60hz.  I think if I had a gaming monitor it would probably be looking better.  The only bad thing, is not being able to see it in person.

Do you guys think a few sales will be coming up or any sites that have solid information?

Thanks
Dem
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: Yskonyn on October 26, 2020, 03:30:11 PM
It will not look better per say.

Resolution and pixeldensity play a factor here as does panel quality.

For example, a 40" 1080p (full HD) monitor has less pixeldensity than a 40" 4K monitor and so the former will look a little blurry in comparison.
That's why, for gaming, you usually find that people recommend certain resolutions only up to a given screensize.

So high resolution on a smaller screen makes things sharper (but also makes text smaller). Finding a good compromise is key and very personal.

Then you also have the screen panels to take into account.
TN / VA or IPS panels; the latter offers much richer colours and better colour calibration, but in general are slower (have higher latencies), but we are seeing improvements this last year with IPS panels having gamerproof latencies and refreshrates, but they are more pricey (of course).

Going less expensive will mean sacrificing one or more of the above elements.
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: Gusington on October 26, 2020, 04:01:28 PM
I'm buying an entirely new rig with monitor on Black Friday, the day after American Thanksgiving. Not sure where you are located.
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: FarAway Sooner on October 26, 2020, 04:45:08 PM
Quote from: demjansk1942 on October 26, 2020, 02:48:48 PM
Thanks guys for the responses, I have a Super 2070, super fast Ram and a i7 9700k, 3.60 cpu

I like the way the games look now but refresh rate is 60hz.  I think if I had a gaming monitor it would probably be looking better.  The only bad thing, is not being able to see it in person.

Do you guys think a few sales will be coming up or any sites that have solid information?

Thanks
Dem

Sounds like you've got plenty of horsepower, Dem, but I'm not sure how well you'll do on BF5.  The best overview of all these topics I've found is at Tom's Harware! 

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/monitor-buying-guide,5699.html
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: Yskonyn on October 26, 2020, 04:53:04 PM
I don't think there exists a system yet that run BF5 on a stable 144 fps.
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: demjansk1942 on October 26, 2020, 07:57:53 PM
Thanks for the Toms link on buying guides. I thought the 144hz is good for the game experience, I was looking at going to a 27" LG or Asus and looking at a 1ms plus G-Sync.  I have everything now running on a 315 LG but it's at 60hz.  I need to get over to Bestbuy and see the difference between 27 and 32.

Do you think most monitors will go on sale in the next month or are new models coming out?

You can spend hours looking at these monitors online.  Unbelievable with all the specifications, refresh rates, pixels etc.  makes you go crazy and not sure if something is better around the corner.
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: JasonPratt on October 26, 2020, 08:59:40 PM
Keep in mind, you might get a better deal on a television which will serve you just as well as a 'monitor' (the same is theoretically true in reverse of course -- just depends what your local market is like). I've used a Vizio for many years, with a slight upgrade to size but I have a strong physical limit on what my corner-desk can hold, about 38" diagonal with a thin border.

Even aside from being able to tuck a monitor into that corner, my glasses (nearsightedness) also factors a practical limit. Even if my eyesight was 20/20, any screen large enough I have to turn my head to see different portions, is too large (or I'm sitting too close); but with my glasses, there's natural distortion toward all edges of the lenses so I'm limited to the center half-area in the middle of the lenses.

What really counts most in my experience is finding a good checklist (including a proper blue gel to look through) for dialing in your screen's basic balances using a color bar signal: brightness, contrast, color, tint, and sharpness (and maybe gamma). These aren't always set optimally from the factory, or by the store (complicated by the video source sometimes having its own settings.)
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: solops on October 26, 2020, 09:08:43 PM
What is "BF5"?
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: Gusington on October 26, 2020, 09:09:36 PM
Battlefield 5 from Electronic Arts.
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: demjansk1942 on October 27, 2020, 05:16:46 AM
Sorry guys about not explaining battlefield 5.  I play fairly well but I sit about 30" from the screen.  Just the number of models is crazy.  I have it down to Asus and lg.  Going to sit on it for a while.  I need to go look at the screen sizes.  Thanks for helping out and let me know if you have anything else.  I appreciate it
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: Pete Dero on October 27, 2020, 07:49:17 AM
I would go for a larger screen at 75hz over a smaller screen at 144hz, but I don't play shooters.

If you go for a large screen at 144hz and with HDR support be prepared to spend some cash.  (and for many games your PC might not be able to render 144 frames per second with every setting on max)
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: FarAway Sooner on October 27, 2020, 09:55:35 AM
I can't testify as to what's going on in the monitor space right now, but Tom's Hardware is a better source for that sort of detailed news on PC monitors than any other site I've found (they admittedly spend less time on monitors than on GPUs, CPUs, etc.).

My general sense is that, if you're willing to buy stuff that's "1 1/2 generations old" (i.e., not state of the art) or "2 generations old" (i.e., was the best in the marketing 12-18 months ago), prices come down a lot starting around Black Friday.  Top-end stuff (if that's what you want for a monitor) won't come down nearly as much, although you can still find some good bargains if you look long and hard enough!
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: demjansk1942 on October 27, 2020, 04:58:36 PM
Thanks for that advice on Black Friday, does that include Amazon?

Thanks
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: Pete Dero on October 28, 2020, 04:05:09 AM
Quote from: demjansk1942 on October 27, 2020, 04:58:36 PM
Thanks for that advice on Black Friday, does that include Amazon?

Thanks

Some sources claim Amazon invented Black Friday  ;).

So yes : Amazon has Black Friday sales.
Title: Re: Monitors 144hz what do you like?
Post by: FarAway Sooner on October 28, 2020, 06:48:00 PM
Quote from: demjansk1942 on October 27, 2020, 04:58:36 PM
Thanks for that advice on Black Friday, does that include Amazon?

Thanks

Based on looking closely at price drops across different PC hardware around Christmas time the last few years, my sense is that it does include Amazon, unless it doesn't...   ;D

Prices generally move in lockstep among all the major retailers, but occasionally, you'll find a one-off seller offering slightly older but still powerful stuff at a deep mark-down.  It's hit and miss whether those are the more reliable Amazon-direct sellers or the Amazon Third-Party sellers or just folks at some other electronic retailer.  Mostly, I'm struck by how closely the pricing at Amazon matches all the big retailers.  There's seldom more than a 2% difference.

I live in the US, and my electronic purchasing generally covers Amazon, NewEgg, TigerDirect, MicroCenter, Best Buy, Target, and occasionally Google Shopping.  Depending on where you live and which of those sites ship to you, your mileage may vary.

My only advice is to buy close to Black Friday.  By the second week of December, almost all of the good PC-related bargains on the Internet are eaten up.