https://community.battlefront.com/topic/144314-big-announcement-battlefront-is-now-slitherine/
I guess that's bad news for the macOS version.
That is a logical development for Sliterine- Several of their games have professional versions that they are actively selling to NATO militaries, and it is likely a big part of their revenue. For example, they just recently sold the CMO Pro to the UK where (I believe) every military member will be able to download it. Likewise, Campaign Flashpoint and now Combat Mission also have pro editions they are selling to the military.
This can only be a good thing for fans of the CM series.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 27, 2024, 08:32:24 AMThis can only be a good thing for fans of the CM series.
Hmmm. As I see it the bottleneck holding back new content is that too much requires coding by Charles. But Slitherine doesn't seem to employ suitable programmers at that level, guessing from how they did PBEM+.
I don't see short-term change.
But maybe they held back some projects that are now being pushed through such as British forces for CMCW and maybe the engine performance improvements that Charles has been working on for a year.
I am hoping this means better visibility into the Battlefront future product stream.
I also think this will give the Battlefront team time, space and funding to explore the "next" thing. CMx2 is kind of played out (heresy to say that I know). Is that CMx3? Or, something completely new?
However, in the modern history of wargaming, these types of acquisitions are a mixed bag; some good ones and some not good.
Also with size, comes bloat, and hopefully Slitherine doesn't lose focus.
Anyway, as a guy who owns almost every Battlefront product, I wish them luck.
I really hope this is a good thing for the series, which deserves to be supported and improved. But thinking back to the day I first downloaded the original game demo, and was instantly enthralled by it, why do I feel like I've just lost my Best Friend? Still, if they have to be bought-out, then Slitherine is probably the best group to do it.
Bit of a FAQ here: (no word on the macOS version)
https://www.matrixgames.com/battlefront-acquisition-faq
Interesting bit in there is that the new devs joining BFC are "Unity experts", which could point at a really fundamental engine change.
Quote from: Sir Slash on August 27, 2024, 09:31:07 AM...Still, if they have to be bought-out, then Slitherine is probably the best group to do it.
I absolutely agree with this. From my personal experience, Sliterine/Matrix is very supportive of wargaming in general, and professional wargaming in particular. I don't think there is a better company to continue to support and develop these products.
The more programmers the better if you ask me
One of the things holding me back from jumping in head first is the number of things that happen in game that are inexplicable and no one on the forums knows why - why can't I see this from here? Why can he shoot me but I can't shoot him? Why can't I target the 3rd floor? All receive a collective shrug - it's the engine or the mysterious fog of war
Quote from: undercovergeek on August 27, 2024, 10:13:08 AMThe programmers the better if you ask me
One of the things holding me back from jumping in head first is the number of things that happen in game that are inexplicable and no one on the forums knows why - why can't I see this from here? Why can he shoot me but I can't shoot him? Why can't I target the 3rd floor? All receive a collective shrug - it's the engine or the mysterious fog of war
Regarding your question about why sometimes the enemy can shoot you, but you can't shoot him: in some cases, it is just a matter of the enemy got the spot, and you didn't. There is a bit of randomness in determining that, but being buttoned up, movement (and how the units are moving), having firing arcs set, and the type of equipment in question all factor in to making the determination of whether someone is spotted or not. BLUF: In CM, it is all very situation specific on the chance of spotting.
Quote from: Tripoli on August 27, 2024, 10:19:03 AMQuote from: undercovergeek on August 27, 2024, 10:13:08 AMThe programmers the better if you ask me
One of the things holding me back from jumping in head first is the number of things that happen in game that are inexplicable and no one on the forums knows why - why can't I see this from here? Why can he shoot me but I can't shoot him? Why can't I target the 3rd floor? All receive a collective shrug - it's the engine or the mysterious fog of war
Regarding your question about why sometimes the enemy can shoot you, but you can't shoot him: in some cases, it is just a matter of the enemy got the spot, and you didn't. There is a bit of randomness in determining that, but being buttoned up, movement (and how the :undecided: units are moving), having firing arcs set, and the type of equipment in question all factor in to making the determination of whether someone is spotted or not. BLUF: In CM, it is all very situation specific on the chance of spotting.
Yeahhhhhh......... I don't know whether I want more transparency or just plain absolute info
It may not be the game for me :undecided:
So does that mean the performance patch we have all been waiting on is off the table? I've not purchased and will not purchase any of their games until they fix the performance. Red Thunder was the last and simply unplayable due to the frames and lag.
Quote from: rss334 on August 27, 2024, 11:20:04 AMSo does that mean the performance patch we have all been waiting on is off the table? I've not purchased and will not purchase any of their games until they fix the performance. Red Thunder was the last and simply unplayable due to the frames and lag.
To me it looks like the performance work Charles was on for the last year is indeed CMx3/Unity work, not a CMx2 refresh with better performance.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 27, 2024, 08:32:24 AMThis can only be a good thing for fans of the CM series.
Absolutely agree with this. I personally am pretty excited to see where this takes things.
I guess the sold a million copies covers all the various titles and dlc. Still quite impressive for a niche wargame.
Quote from: undercovergeek on August 27, 2024, 10:13:08 AMThe more programmers the better if you ask me
One of the things holding me back from jumping in head first is the number of things that happen in game that are inexplicable and no one on the forums knows why - why can't I see this from here? Why can he shoot me but I can't shoot him? Why can't I target the 3rd floor? All receive a collective shrug - it's the engine or the mysterious fog of war
Well I am not sure these things haven't been explained..not sure there is a wargame that has been subject to as much forensic examination as to why it works the way it does. I think any question you may have has likely been answered somewhere and like any game it's not perfect but for sheer enjoyment and the feeling of actually commanding at the tactical level. Nothing comes close.
Graviteam I guess may be in the same bracket if I could actually figure out how it all works.
Well, now that hell has frozen over... FIND ROB-O, THROW CASH AT HIM, AND IMPLEMENT HIS CAMPAIGN GENERATOR!!
Quote from: Redwolf on August 27, 2024, 07:44:00 AMhttps://community.battlefront.com/topic/144314-big-announcement-battlefront-is-now-slitherine/
I guess that's bad news for the macOS version.
As owner of every Combat Mission module, I think this is a positive development.
Maybe more modules or, who knows, CM3 at some point. Combat Mission is my go
to....just awesome games.
:embarrassed: I don't know where my serial numbers are :uglystupid2:
Just managed to login to my Battlefront account and I've got one game listed. No serial keys for the "more than a dozen" I bought from them.
oh well...
Quote from: Zulu1966 on August 27, 2024, 01:24:46 PMQuote from: undercovergeek on August 27, 2024, 10:13:08 AMThe more programmers the better if you ask me
One of the things holding me back from jumping in head first is the number of things that happen in game that are inexplicable and no one on the forums knows why - why can't I see this from here? Why can he shoot me but I can't shoot him? Why can't I target the 3rd floor? All receive a collective shrug - it's the engine or the mysterious fog of war
Well I am not sure these things haven't been explained..not sure there is a wargame that has been subject to as much forensic examination as to why it works the way it does. I think any question you may have has likely been answered somewhere and like any game it's not perfect but for sheer enjoyment and the feeling of actually commanding at the tactical level. Nothing comes close.
Graviteam I guess may be in the same bracket if I could actually figure out how it all works.
Maybe the forensic examination comes from the necessity for more information
I am certainly not comparing the titles but if my tank misses in red dragon or warno or regiments the ui and info on the screen tells me why - in cm I don't know - the forumites and devs give a mystic wave of the hand and say 'this is war'
I played more hours of cmbo and cmbn than I care to mention, beta tested Italy and Black Sea and loved every minute - I still want to know why I missed
Quote from: JudgeDredd on August 27, 2024, 03:03:42 PM:embarrassed: I don't know where my serial numbers are :uglystupid2:
Just managed to login to my Battlefront account and I've got one game listed. No serial keys for the "more than a dozen" I bought from them.
oh well...
By chance do you have the old e-mails regarding your purchases from BF. They would have the SNs, or the order number to back check.
Now hopes for coop multiplayer that's all I need.
Maybe now even Gus will give this game a try. Maybe. :azn:
I hope it will free up the means for battfront to actually bring CM series into 2024 standards. I'd love to see CMx3 become combat mission classic realism with gates of hell graphics and MP co-op.
Quote from: Wburn on August 27, 2024, 05:29:26 PMQuote from: JudgeDredd on August 27, 2024, 03:03:42 PM:embarrassed: I don't know where my serial numbers are :uglystupid2:
Just managed to login to my Battlefront account and I've got one game listed. No serial keys for the "more than a dozen" I bought from them.
oh well...
By chance do you have the old e-mails regarding your purchases from BF. They would have the SNs, or the order number to back check.
Unfortunately not. It seems I've had a purge or change of PC or some thing happen over the years and this information has gone.
I hadn't had problems logging into Battlefront at least once before and grabbing my information when I wanted to reinstall something - so probably rather stupidly didn't think about securing that information - because I was able to get it easily enough.
I would've thought as part of the takeover, Slitherine would have access to the previous purchases and been able to provide access to them. I posted on Matrix - in case there's an option I missed.
I don't suppose it matters really. Whilst I loved the games and did play them alot (CMSF2 was superb and my fav), my PC gets very little game time nowadays...too many games and not enough time, so at least these aren't tempting me away from other gaming - which they surely would if I had access to them.
Could be related to the news :
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/CombatMissionFranchiseSale
Most Combat Mission games are 60% off (for the next 7 days).
https://www.greenmangaming.com/search?query=combat%20mission
Even better deals (most are 68% off).
CMBN and CMSF2 are also on GoG now, which gives you completely DRM-free versions.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on August 28, 2024, 01:16:16 AMQuote from: Wburn on August 27, 2024, 05:29:26 PMQuote from: JudgeDredd on August 27, 2024, 03:03:42 PM:embarrassed: I don't know where my serial numbers are :uglystupid2:
Just managed to login to my Battlefront account and I've got one game listed. No serial keys for the "more than a dozen" I bought from them.
oh well...
By chance do you have the old e-mails regarding your purchases from BF. They would have the SNs, or the order number to back check.
Unfortunately not. It seems I've had a purge or change of PC or some thing happen over the years and this information has gone.
I hadn't had problems logging into Battlefront at least once before and grabbing my information when I wanted to reinstall something - so probably rather stupidly didn't think about securing that information - because I was able to get it easily enough.
I would've thought as part of the takeover, Slitherine would have access to the previous purchases and been able to provide access to them. I posted on Matrix - in case there's an option I missed.
I don't suppose it matters really. Whilst I loved the games and did play them alot (CMSF2 was superb and my fav), my PC gets very little game time nowadays...too many games and not enough time, so at least these aren't tempting me away from other gaming - which they surely would if I had access to them.
I got in.
Raised a ticket and John at Slitherine identified I had two accounts. All games present and accounted for. :Hug:
Taking John over to Slitherine support was a smart move.
Especially if they want to keep the Mac versions alive.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on August 28, 2024, 09:33:54 AMQuote from: JudgeDredd on August 28, 2024, 01:16:16 AMQuote from: Wburn on August 27, 2024, 05:29:26 PMQuote from: JudgeDredd on August 27, 2024, 03:03:42 PM:embarrassed: I don't know where my serial numbers are :uglystupid2:
Just managed to login to my Battlefront account and I've got one game listed. No serial keys for the "more than a dozen" I bought from them.
oh well...
By chance do you have the old e-mails regarding your purchases from BF. They would have the SNs, or the order number to back check.
Unfortunately not. It seems I've had a purge or change of PC or some thing happen over the years and this information has gone.
I hadn't had problems logging into Battlefront at least once before and grabbing my information when I wanted to reinstall something - so probably rather stupidly didn't think about securing that information - because I was able to get it easily enough.
I would've thought as part of the takeover, Slitherine would have access to the previous purchases and been able to provide access to them. I posted on Matrix - in case there's an option I missed.
I don't suppose it matters really. Whilst I loved the games and did play them alot (CMSF2 was superb and my fav), my PC gets very little game time nowadays...too many games and not enough time, so at least these aren't tempting me away from other gaming - which they surely would if I had access to them.
I got in.
Raised a ticket and John at Slitherine identified I had two accounts. All games present and accounted for. :Hug:
Sorry that I didn't check in earlier. When I saw your post I was going to suggest opening a ticket.
How did I do? Did I get back quickly? I'm still getting used to the new Help Desk set up.
I've been on the Matrix/Slitherine payroll since July 1st. I have really enjoyed working with them as we put all of the games on Steam and working solely for them hasn't changed my positive opinion.
Now that CM3 is "officially" know to exist I can only add the most vauge information. I work for a company now that has a full marketing department. I haven't played a build in a couple of months but I feel it's probably ok if I say..... It definitely has an updated look and a video I saw the other was staggering. It took a few seconds for me to realize I was looking at a video of the/a game. If the game looks like that heads will explode. And also, it looks very different, but the UI is organized differently but the game still has the Combat Mission DNA. You won't have any doubt about what game you're playing.
Quote from: Redwolf on August 28, 2024, 09:42:02 AMTaking John over to Slitherine support was a smart move.
Especially if they want to keep the Mac versions alive.
We'll see but Steve and I have been making a case for it. One thing to keep in mind, with the much smalled audience for Mac, is that it isn't just making the game. It also involves support and testing. Those are factors as much as the coding part is.
But no final determination has been settled on yet.
Quote from: Elvis on August 28, 2024, 04:02:17 PMQuote from: JudgeDredd on August 28, 2024, 09:33:54 AMQuote from: JudgeDredd on August 28, 2024, 01:16:16 AMQuote from: Wburn on August 27, 2024, 05:29:26 PMQuote from: JudgeDredd on August 27, 2024, 03:03:42 PM:embarrassed: I don't know where my serial numbers are :uglystupid2:
Just managed to login to my Battlefront account and I've got one game listed. No serial keys for the "more than a dozen" I bought from them.
oh well...
By chance do you have the old e-mails regarding your purchases from BF. They would have the SNs, or the order number to back check.
Unfortunately not. It seems I've had a purge or change of PC or some thing happen over the years and this information has gone.
I hadn't had problems logging into Battlefront at least once before and grabbing my information when I wanted to reinstall something - so probably rather stupidly didn't think about securing that information - because I was able to get it easily enough.
I would've thought as part of the takeover, Slitherine would have access to the previous purchases and been able to provide access to them. I posted on Matrix - in case there's an option I missed.
I don't suppose it matters really. Whilst I loved the games and did play them alot (CMSF2 was superb and my fav), my PC gets very little game time nowadays...too many games and not enough time, so at least these aren't tempting me away from other gaming - which they surely would if I had access to them.
I got in.
Raised a ticket and John at Slitherine identified I had two accounts. All games present and accounted for. :Hug:
Sorry that I didn't check in earlier. When I saw your post I was going to suggest opening a ticket.
How did I do? Did I get back quickly? I'm still getting used to the new Help Desk set up.
I've been on the Matrix/Slitherine payroll since July 1st. I have really enjoyed working with them as we put all of the games on Steam and working solely for them hasn't changed my positive opinion.
Now that CM3 is "officially" know to exist I can only add the most vauge information. I work for a company now that has a full marketing department. I haven't played a build in a couple of months but I feel it's probably ok if I say..... It definitely has an updated look and a video I saw the other was staggering. It took a few seconds for me to realize I was looking at a video of the/a game. If the game looks like that heads will explode. And also, it looks very different, but the UI is organized differently but the game still has the Combat Mission DNA. You won't have any doubt about what game you're playing.
Coop multiplayer at all? Maybe HITS like scourge of war? Which you kinda have already I guess.
I really hope its one game and launcher for all modules in cmx3 with no dumbing down this time.
Can you beat steel division 2 assuming a ww2 setting? Only time will tell.
Good news about reaquiring the games you purchased!
Quote from: Elvis on August 28, 2024, 04:02:17 PMQuote from: JudgeDredd on August 28, 2024, 09:33:54 AMQuote from: JudgeDredd on August 28, 2024, 01:16:16 AMQuote from: Wburn on August 27, 2024, 05:29:26 PMQuote from: JudgeDredd on August 27, 2024, 03:03:42 PM:embarrassed: I don't know where my serial numbers are :uglystupid2:
Just managed to login to my Battlefront account and I've got one game listed. No serial keys for the "more than a dozen" I bought from them.
oh well...
By chance do you have the old e-mails regarding your purchases from BF. They would have the SNs, or the order number to back check.
Unfortunately not. It seems I've had a purge or change of PC or some thing happen over the years and this information has gone.
I hadn't had problems logging into Battlefront at least once before and grabbing my information when I wanted to reinstall something - so probably rather stupidly didn't think about securing that information - because I was able to get it easily enough.
I would've thought as part of the takeover, Slitherine would have access to the previous purchases and been able to provide access to them. I posted on Matrix - in case there's an option I missed.
I don't suppose it matters really. Whilst I loved the games and did play them alot (CMSF2 was superb and my fav), my PC gets very little game time nowadays...too many games and not enough time, so at least these aren't tempting me away from other gaming - which they surely would if I had access to them.
I got in.
Raised a ticket and John at Slitherine identified I had two accounts. All games present and accounted for. :Hug:
Sorry that I didn't check in earlier. When I saw your post I was going to suggest opening a ticket.
How did I do? Did I get back quickly? I'm still getting used to the new Help Desk set up.
I've been on the Matrix/Slitherine payroll since July 1st. I have really enjoyed working with them as we put all of the games on Steam and working solely for them hasn't changed my positive opinion.
Now that CM3 is "officially" know to exist I can only add the most vauge information. I work for a company now that has a full marketing department. I haven't played a build in a couple of months but I feel it's probably ok if I say..... It definitely has an updated look and a video I saw the other was staggering. It took a few seconds for me to realize I was looking at a video of the/a game. If the game looks like that heads will explode. And also, it looks very different, but the UI is organized differently but the game still has the Combat Mission DNA. You won't have any doubt about what game you're playing.
John is you? You did very well. I have all my game activation codes and they're all on Matrix and Steam now. Thank you.
Quote from: Destraex on August 28, 2024, 10:47:20 PMQuote from: Elvis on August 28, 2024, 04:02:17 PMQuote from: JudgeDredd on August 28, 2024, 09:33:54 AMQuote from: JudgeDredd on August 28, 2024, 01:16:16 AMQuote from: Wburn on August 27, 2024, 05:29:26 PMQuote from: JudgeDredd on August 27, 2024, 03:03:42 PM:embarrassed: I don't know where my serial numbers are :uglystupid2:
Just managed to login to my Battlefront account and I've got one game listed. No serial keys for the "more than a dozen" I bought from them.
oh well...
By chance do you have the old e-mails regarding your purchases from BF. They would have the SNs, or the order number to back check.
Unfortunately not. It seems I've had a purge or change of PC or some thing happen over the years and this information has gone.
I hadn't had problems logging into Battlefront at least once before and grabbing my information when I wanted to reinstall something - so probably rather stupidly didn't think about securing that information - because I was able to get it easily enough.
I would've thought as part of the takeover, Slitherine would have access to the previous purchases and been able to provide access to them. I posted on Matrix - in case there's an option I missed.
I don't suppose it matters really. Whilst I loved the games and did play them alot (CMSF2 was superb and my fav), my PC gets very little game time nowadays...too many games and not enough time, so at least these aren't tempting me away from other gaming - which they surely would if I had access to them.
I got in.
Raised a ticket and John at Slitherine identified I had two accounts. All games present and accounted for. :Hug:
Sorry that I didn't check in earlier. When I saw your post I was going to suggest opening a ticket.
How did I do? Did I get back quickly? I'm still getting used to the new Help Desk set up.
I've been on the Matrix/Slitherine payroll since July 1st. I have really enjoyed working with them as we put all of the games on Steam and working solely for them hasn't changed my positive opinion.
Now that CM3 is "officially" know to exist I can only add the most vauge information. I work for a company now that has a full marketing department. I haven't played a build in a couple of months but I feel it's probably ok if I say..... It definitely has an updated look and a video I saw the other was staggering. It took a few seconds for me to realize I was looking at a video of the/a game. If the game looks like that heads will explode. And also, it looks very different, but the UI is organized differently but the game still has the Combat Mission DNA. You won't have any doubt about what game you're playing.
Coop multiplayer at all? Maybe HITS like scourge of war? Which you kinda have already I guess.
I really hope its one game and launcher for all modules in cmx3 with no dumbing down this time.
Can you beat steel division 2 assuming a ww2 setting? Only time will tell.
Well. Personally hoping it's nothing like steel division and still very much like combat mission
Quote from: undercovergeek on August 27, 2024, 03:36:35 PMI am certainly not comparing the titles but if my tank misses in red dragon or warno or regiments the ui and info on the screen tells me why - in cm I don't know - the forumites and devs give a mystic wave of the hand and say 'this is war'
I played more hours of cmbo and cmbn than I care to mention, beta tested Italy and Black Sea and loved every minute - I still want to know why I missed
Interesting...My (ill-informed) take on those situations in CM is that the game simulates the randomness of interaction between projectile and target - and I find that variation reassuring. It may be complete RNG-generated cobblers (sorry BF coders if not true), but it feels to me more realistic.