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Title: USS Enterprise sails into final voyage
Post by: Steelgrave on October 31, 2012, 11:44:18 AM
The Enterprise has set sail on her final deployment before being decommissioned

http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/31/uss-enterprise-on-the-front-lines-of-history-for-half-a-century/?hpt=hp_bn13 (http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/31/uss-enterprise-on-the-front-lines-of-history-for-half-a-century/?hpt=hp_bn13)
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Post by: Martok on October 31, 2012, 12:04:00 PM
Godspeed Enterprise. 

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Post by: mirth on October 31, 2012, 12:19:47 PM
Fifty years in service, amazing. Glad to see that they're already thinking about naming one of the new CVNs Enterprise.
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Post by: eyebiter on October 31, 2012, 01:13:12 PM
Hope they decide to save this Enterprise as a museum ship.  CV-6 deserved a better fate than the scrapyard.
Title: Re: USS Enterprise sails into final voyage
Post by: mirth on October 31, 2012, 01:19:29 PM
Quote from: eyebiter on October 31, 2012, 01:13:12 PM
Hope they decide to save this Enterprise as a museum ship.  CV-6 deserved a better fate than the scrapyard.

Bad news on that (from the article linked above)

QuoteAfter its nuclear fuel and eight reactors are safely removed, CVN-65, The USS Enterprise, will be cut up and sold for scrap.

Doesn't seem right at all for a proud ship that served for 50 years.
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Post by: MetalDog on October 31, 2012, 05:16:14 PM
Agreed.  Isn't there someone in the DoD that sees it's historical importance to the U.S. and want to preserve and promote that?
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Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 31, 2012, 08:44:40 PM
while I emotionally get what your saying theres just no money for it.
look at how much the Intrepid costs.  now imagine a ship twice the size with reactors.
Title: Re: USS Enterprise sails into final voyage
Post by: Steelgrave on October 31, 2012, 11:06:45 PM
Speaking of which....if any of you are ever in the Houston area, be sure and visit the USS Texas. Launched in 1912, she was briefly considered to be the most powerful warship afloat, modeled after the famous Dreadnaught class. She is visually unique with two turrets fore, two turrets aft and a middle turret. She was also the first US warship to be armed with AA guns, and if you look north of her waterline, she has a number of smaller (5inch?) guns sprouting out of the side. Somewhere I have a pic of my then teenage mom sitting out over the water on one of those guns (crazy kids!). She's a proud ship.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Texas_(BB-35) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Texas_(BB-35))

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8298%2F7945780624_7a09eb16eb_o.jpg&hash=c5ef3b33dd8d72bc108df3c2ec03496d2c9df4cc)
Title: Re: USS Enterprise sails into final voyage
Post by: Con on October 31, 2012, 11:21:10 PM
The costs of maintaining a warship as a museum are astronomical

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/30/us-usa-ships-cost-idUSBRE88T08420120930

Its a poor choice but unless there is real historical significance (Iowa class as the last BB's etc) I just don't think there is cash available to preserve and maintain these ships.

Con
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Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 31, 2012, 11:45:00 PM
most are maintaned under state and local groups.
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Post by: Airborne Rifles on November 01, 2012, 01:31:42 PM
I think the USS Texas is the last remaining dreadnought in the world.
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Post by: Steelgrave on November 01, 2012, 01:49:30 PM
^That's my understanding as well.
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Post by: besilarius on November 01, 2012, 05:28:41 PM
Did they ever fix the leak in Texas?
The news reports made it seem she was in a really bad way.
Title: Re: USS Enterprise sails into final voyage
Post by: Steelgrave on November 01, 2012, 06:49:40 PM
^Texas just passed a bond to fix her. The USS Texas is really special to Texans and it's not the first time that folks came together to keep her afloat. A bit of trivia, but when she was first decommissioned and destined for the scrapyard, Texas schoolkids led a fund drive to bring her home and make a museum out of her.
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Post by: Greybriar on November 06, 2012, 12:54:44 AM
A cousin of mine was aboard the U.S.S. Enterprise (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_%28CVN-65%29) on 14 January 1969 when a fire broke out, killing 27 and injuring 314. Here is a short video showing part of it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_twleXf23Bk).
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Post by: ArizonaTank on November 07, 2012, 07:30:24 PM
There is also the shameful and sordid tale of the USS Olympia.   

Several years back, the guy in charge of it, embezzled the funds to maintain this 120 year old, very historic ship.  At one point, they couldn't find anyone to pay for keeping it afloat.  The Navy couldn't get appropriations to take it on, so there was serious discussion of sinking her as a coral reef. 

After all, the Spanish American War has long ago lost its constituency. 

Recently, a group in South Carolina has taken up the cause, and is looking to move her from Philadelphia to Port Royal S.C.  Hope this works, as the ship is apparently in very bad shape.

http://www.scolympia.org/

"You may fire when you are ready, Gridley" Commodore George Dewey, from the deck of the USS Olympia, May 1st 1898, The Battle of Manila Bay

     
Title: Re: USS Enterprise sails into final voyage
Post by: Steelgrave on November 07, 2012, 07:33:06 PM
^That's a national treasure there. I had forgotten the Olympia was still afloat  :P
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Post by: LongBlade on November 07, 2012, 07:37:09 PM
Terrible story, Arizona. Let's hope they save her.