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Digital Gaming => Computer Gaming => Topic started by: Bismarck on November 10, 2012, 03:40:53 PM

Title: Operation Barbarossa Price Drop
Post by: Bismarck on November 10, 2012, 03:40:53 PM
I wouldn't call it cheap but the games is nice beer-and-pretzels.
Title: Re: Operation Barbarossa Price Drop
Post by: Staggerwing on November 10, 2012, 03:46:10 PM
Thanks for the heads up!

LINK (http://www.matrixgames.com/products/374/details/Operation.Barbarossa.-.The.Struggle.for.Russia)

$29.99 for the D/L. Looks like it's the new set pricepoint.
Title: Re: Operation Barbarossa Price Drop
Post by: Bismarck on November 10, 2012, 03:57:16 PM
I was underwhelmed when Op Barb first came out but, after a week of busting my hump over Alea Jacta Est, this feels good.

For the uninitiated, this game is tactical East Front; think Panzer General/Panzer Corps with a bit more historical basis. The campaigns run through short locked scenarios. Stand-alone scenarios are available and a free expansion is available in the Matrix forum.
Title: Re: Operation Barbarossa Price Drop
Post by: Steelgrave on November 10, 2012, 04:19:56 PM
My question would be if you own Panzer Corps and the add-ons, does Op Barb scratch any itches not covered by Panzer Corps? Is it worthwhile to own both?
Title: Re: Operation Barbarossa Price Drop
Post by: Bismarck on November 10, 2012, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: Steelgrave on November 10, 2012, 04:19:56 PM
My question would be if you own Panzer Corps and the add-ons, does Op Barb scratch any itches not covered by Panzer Corps? Is it worthwhile to own both?

Yes, PzC is largely abstract to the point of fictional. Op Barb has an element of history by giving scenarios historical objectives and outcomes, e.g. if objectives are not met the campaign ends.

From the manual:

Campaigns are a string of scenarios following the most important battles of the entire
Barbarossa conflict. A scenario is a single battle that had a historical impact on the outcome of
the Second World War. Although all scenarios are historical, some of the single scenarios have
been adjusted to be somewhat "hypothetical" to achieve a better balance of play. This is noted
in the scenario briefing.
Title: Re: Operation Barbarossa Price Drop
Post by: Steelgrave on November 10, 2012, 06:11:29 PM
Thanks, Bis. You've never led me astray  8) Gonna head over there now and pick it up.
Title: Re: Operation Barbarossa Price Drop
Post by: tgb on November 10, 2012, 06:12:22 PM
Quote from: Bismarck on November 10, 2012, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: Steelgrave on November 10, 2012, 04:19:56 PM
My question would be if you own Panzer Corps and the add-ons, does Op Barb scratch any itches not covered by Panzer Corps? Is it worthwhile to own both?

Yes, PzC is largely abstract to the point of fictional. Op Barb has an element of history by giving scenarios historical objectives and outcomes, e.g. if objectives are not met the campaign ends.

From the manual:

Campaigns are a string of scenarios following the most important battles of the entire
Barbarossa conflict. A scenario is a single battle that had a historical impact on the outcome of
the Second World War. Although all scenarios are historical, some of the single scenarios have
been adjusted to be somewhat "hypothetical" to achieve a better balance of play. This is noted
in the scenario briefing.

How would you compare it to Unity of Command?
Title: Re: Operation Barbarossa Price Drop
Post by: Bismarck on November 10, 2012, 07:04:02 PM
Quote from: tgb on November 10, 2012, 06:12:22 PM
Quote from: Bismarck on November 10, 2012, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: Steelgrave on November 10, 2012, 04:19:56 PM
My question would be if you own Panzer Corps and the add-ons, does Op Barb scratch any itches not covered by Panzer Corps? Is it worthwhile to own both?

Yes, PzC is largely abstract to the point of fictional. Op Barb has an element of history by giving scenarios historical objectives and outcomes, e.g. if objectives are not met the campaign ends.

From the manual:

Campaigns are a string of scenarios following the most important battles of the entire
Barbarossa conflict. A scenario is a single battle that had a historical impact on the outcome of
the Second World War. Although all scenarios are historical, some of the single scenarios have
been adjusted to be somewhat "hypothetical" to achieve a better balance of play. This is noted
in the scenario briefing.

How would you compare it to Unity of Command?

UoC is much more serious.  Yet, IIRCC, UoC is limited to Case Blue.
Title: Re: Operation Barbarossa Price Drop
Post by: Tuna on November 10, 2012, 08:46:28 PM
Is it like Panzer General/Corps where if you don't finish the mission by a certain amount of turns you fail?
Title: Re: Operation Barbarossa Price Drop
Post by: Bismarck on November 10, 2012, 10:20:19 PM
Quote from: Tuna on November 10, 2012, 08:46:28 PM
Is it like Panzer General/Corps where if you don't finish the mission by a certain amount of turns you fail?

Yeah.

I knew I should've reviewed it years ago. Now I get to explain it.  See the evils of procrastination?