Looks like an idiot is creating many accounts to give their games bad ratings. wouldn't be surprised if there is a connection with the latest strangeness in the wargaming community.
maybe our niche hobby needs a deep breath and a good beer:
http://www.wargamer.com/forums/posts.asp?t=585219
Quote from: Keunert on November 15, 2012, 08:48:16 AM
Looks like an idiot is creating many accounts to give their games bad ratings. wouldn't be surprised if there is a connection with the latest strangeness in the wargaming community.
maybe our niche hobby needs a deep breath and a good beer:
http://www.wargamer.com/forums/posts.asp?t=585219
That's not right.
Shouldn't be too difficult to get the IPs of the person(s) doing it. I hope they catch them.
Very sad :-[
What a shame. The Lordz have been pouring their hearts and souls into CTGW for years, only to have some moron with a grudge come along and potentially impact sales to the uninformed public.
I agree it is wrong!.. But on the other hand, the Manufacturers shouldn't be posting 10's in the user area!.. I understand they were probably doing it to offset the bad reviews from the bad user.. but I think the better thing to do would be to get Metacritic to look into it first..
Note: I want and probably will buy this game due to Slick's AAR and other posts here ;D .. Just wanted to finish my Comander Europe at War Gold game first (figure I might not go back to it once I get this game).
Sounds like some verifiable nutjob on the 'net.
The M.O. sounds like it could be a bot, however, since it was just copy&pasting bad reviews from elsewhere. It'd have to be a more intricately created bot than I've ever seen, though.
So either way some nutter, with entirely too much time to spread his lunacy, has spent a LOT of time doing this or creating a bot that does it. It's disgusting.
QuoteManufacturers shouldn't be posting 10's in the user area!..
Just one word, the guy is NUTS.
QuoteSomeone has been creating many dummy accounts and posting false reviews. They have created accounts for Slitherine, Matrix and the Lordz and are pretending to be us and posting false positive reviews. These reviews have been copied and pasted from other CTGW reviews. At least they are reviews of the the right game...
These are the false developer accounts that were created:
http://www.metacritic.com/user/MatrixGames2012
http://www.metacritic.com/user/SlitherineGames
http://www.metacritic.com/user/LordzGames
These accounts were not set up by us.
Then they have created many more accounts giving very bad reviews. These reviews are copied and pasted from completely different games. You can tell because they talk about features not in the game. For example there are no doors & dungeons in Commander the Great War! :)
Commander The Great War, wasn't even on my radar (sorry), but some other Grogz threads brought me to this one and through following the link to your website, I now know about the game (and it seems good) - I will probably buy it (sometimes bad publicity is still good publicity).
Cheers
Anyone who has spent any time at the Wargamer forums over the past 5 years, knows that there are some real batshit crazies out there. Something like this would be right up their alley.
This is just bizarre. Hopefully it all gets sorted out.
Sad to see this. Hopefully it can be corrected.
What the hell is wrong with some people's kids?
Quote from: Lord Zimoa on November 15, 2012, 01:12:15 PM
QuoteManufacturers shouldn't be posting 10's in the user area!..
Just one word, the guy is NUTS.
QuoteSomeone has been creating many dummy accounts and posting false reviews. They have created accounts for Slitherine, Matrix and the Lordz and are pretending to be us and posting false positive reviews. These reviews have been copied and pasted from other CTGW reviews. At least they are reviews of the the right game...
These are the false developer accounts that were created:
http://www.metacritic.com/user/MatrixGames2012
http://www.metacritic.com/user/SlitherineGames
http://www.metacritic.com/user/LordzGames
These accounts were not set up by us.
Then they have created many more accounts giving very bad reviews. These reviews are copied and pasted from completely different games. You can tell because they talk about features not in the game. For example there are no doors & dungeons in Commander the Great War! :)
OK didn't realize that he/she posted the good reviews under the Developer's name as well.. You're right, he/she is a jerk!!
"What evil lurks in the hearts of men, women, kids, infants, teenagers, or is this culprit not even human"?
Kidding aside, this is intolerable to gamers everywhere. Game reviews are often major contributors influencing purchasing or not-purchasing decisions. It's wise to read a breadth of reviews from many sources...IGN, Gamespot, Metacritc, GameRankings, Amazon, applicable forums, friends, gamers skilled/interested in the genre, etc. in determining the "quality" of a game. I've been burnt most often in the purchase of a ("dog"...sorry Fido) when relying on only one/few unbalanced, non-specific, or shallow reviews.
Quote from: LongBlade on November 15, 2012, 08:57:21 AM
Quote from: Keunert on November 15, 2012, 08:48:16 AM
Looks like an idiot is creating many accounts to give their games bad ratings. wouldn't be surprised if there is a connection with the latest strangeness in the wargaming community.
maybe our niche hobby needs a deep breath and a good beer:
http://www.wargamer.com/forums/posts.asp?t=585219
That's not right.
Shouldn't be too difficult to get the IPs of the person(s) doing it. I hope they catch them.
Well - if anyone can there is a reward for it !
http://www.wargamer.com/forums/posts.asp?t=585219
(Sorry bout the cross post)
It is an excellent game and this guy needs a visit from someone.
Quote from: Zulu1966 on November 15, 2012, 08:03:58 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on November 15, 2012, 08:57:21 AM
Quote from: Keunert on November 15, 2012, 08:48:16 AM
Looks like an idiot is creating many accounts to give their games bad ratings. wouldn't be surprised if there is a connection with the latest strangeness in the wargaming community.
maybe our niche hobby needs a deep breath and a good beer:
http://www.wargamer.com/forums/posts.asp?t=585219
That's not right.
Shouldn't be too difficult to get the IPs of the person(s) doing it. I hope they catch them.
Well - if anyone can there is a reward for it !
http://www.wargamer.com/forums/posts.asp?t=585219
(Sorry bout the cross post)
It is an excellent game and this guy needs a visit from someone.
That cross post was welcome. I hope JD cuts that check soon. It will be well deserved to put this dork in his place.
Holy schnikey!
According to my calculations 1000 pounds is a lot of money.
Quote from: Gusington on November 15, 2012, 08:32:22 PM
According to my calculations 1000 pounds is a lot of money.
1000 pounds of what?
British pounds. Or peanut butter. Your choice.
Smooth or Crunchy?
Crunchy. Anything else is for girls.
Quote from: Gusington on November 15, 2012, 09:50:46 PM
Crunchy. Anything else is for girls.
What if the smooth PB is
covering the girls? Or at least certain parts?
Then you have to go downstairs.
Exactly.
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^ Is that one o' them thar 'Postmodern' poetry thingamabobs?
Well it's only slightly better then Dada poetry.
Well, personally I was thinking 1000 pounds of bacon, but whatever you guys want.
^^^ thats what I was going to say.
1000 pounds and you fools go with peanut butter?
dafuq!?!?
this is clearly a case for Kommissar Mike.
1245 Euro (i just calculated) can get you a lot of bacon 8)
but can it get you the equal numerical weight in bacon?
1000 pound = 453kg bacon is the better deal ;) because bacon is about 10 GBP/kg,
but i go for the money anyway 8)
....i am off deep down in those Google caches already ! ;D
Checking up on Metacritic to see if I could add "abuse" votes to the reviews, and I couldn't find a listing for CTGW at all. Has MC taken the reviews down already?
I am stupid or not getting something about what happened.
Isn't this about some ahole posing as different people and posting bad reviews on a site where anyone can sign up and post a review?
If that is the case besides finding him and playing four-walled handball what can be done legally about it?
I hope they find him and put an end to his behavior but I do not see what recourse companies have against things like this.
Quote from: magnus on November 16, 2012, 12:48:47 PM
I am stupid or not getting something about what happened.
Isn't this about some ahole posing as different people and posting bad reviews on a site where anyone can sign up and post a review?
If that is the case besides finding him and playing four-walled handball what can be done legally about it?
I hope they find him and put an end to his behavior but I do not see what recourse companies have against things like this.
We're not exactly sure who it is. Given that little can be done.
However, it seems clear to the community across multiple sites that this is the work of one guy or a small group of guys with a grudge and maybe a screw loose. Other than the distraction (amusement?) of people talking about it, the impact is zero.
I'm sorry he/she/they feel wronged but this isn't the way to make your case.
Quote from: magnus on November 16, 2012, 12:48:47 PM
I am stupid or not getting something about what happened.
Isn't this about some ahole posing as different people and posting bad reviews on a site where anyone can sign up and post a review?
If that is the case besides finding him and playing four-walled handball what can be done legally about it?
I hope they find him and put an end to his behavior but I do not see what recourse companies have against things like this.
I'd hope that they would expose whomever it was to our fine community, if it was someone who has been throwing a tizzy by doing something as childish as this. Being shunned by your peers isn't fun, even on the internet, I imagine.
Who's even got time for this type of crap? Idiots with computers is becoming a major issue in our time.
Quote from: LongBlade on November 15, 2012, 10:27:14 PM
Well, personally I was thinking 1000 pounds of bacon, but whatever you guys want.
All the subsequent discussion on this topic completely misses the important question: Is that 1000 pounds before or after cooking?
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on November 16, 2012, 03:52:06 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on November 15, 2012, 10:27:14 PM
Well, personally I was thinking 1000 pounds of bacon, but whatever you guys want.
All the subsequent discussion on this topic completely misses the important question: Is that 1000 pounds before or after cooking?
Gentlemen, allow me to introduce the next towering intellect of our time. Sir, I bow before you.
Quote from: SgtRock on November 16, 2012, 03:25:57 PM
Who's even got time for this type of crap? Idiots with computers is becoming a major issue in our time.
This is nothing compared to some of the things I've seen. I used to be in the Gone Gold community, which was pretty huge back in the day. It had its share of trolls. Well, one day it suddenly ceased to exist (long story) and one of its less savoury members followed some of us to a new community. Every couple of months he'd create a new account and start sending extremely vile pictures via PM to people. Completely at random, it seemed. I had one once, even though I can't remember ever talking to the guy.
What was weird was that he persisted for
ages. Obviously he'd get banned each time, but before long he'd be back with another account. That guy must have been quite disturbed.
I doubt it's just some random wacko. I'm inclined to believe it's someone who felt slighted by Slitherine recently and already ignited an internet firestorm about the offense across multiple forums. And yes feel free to read between the lines.
I miss Gone Gold so very very much. Anyone know if the founder is still alive? His name escapes me.
Quote from: Gusington on November 16, 2012, 07:45:39 PM
I miss Gone Gold so very very much. Anyone know if the founder is still alive? His name escapes me.
Rich LaPorte. I used to communicate with him often. He was a retired NYPD cop who had been shot on duty and confined to a wheelchair, his health was very poor and deteriorated to the point that he closed Gone Gold. There was some controversy over his closing the site so abruptly, but most of the flack came from trolls. He has completely dropped out of sight, to the best of my knowledge.
Yeah, I heard that Rich had some form of cancer, but that he actually was - at least a few years ago - doing better. I loved that site but never went to the forums. I was in college and thought I was too busy for forums, imagine that mental process... ;)
I'm surprised you done go over to Octopus Overlords, Steelie (as if you need another forum). A lot of the Gone Gold refugees founded that place and hang out there. The Console Gold group (who got really burned when Rich flipped the switch abruptly) formed Gaming Trend.
Good to hear that Rich is doing better. Some of my earliest online drooling over games was done at Gone Gold...even before I found the WG.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on November 16, 2012, 08:48:09 PM
Yeah, I heard that Rich had some form of cancer, but that he actually was - at least a few years ago - doing better. I loved that site but never went to the forums. I was in college and thought I was too busy for forums, imagine that mental process... ;)
I'm surprised you done go over to Octopus Overlords, Steelie (as if you need another forum). A lot of the Gone Gold refugees founded that place and hang out there. The Console Gold group (who got really burned when Rich flipped the switch abruptly) formed Gaming Trend.
I found the Wargamer right after GG closed shop and that was pretty much enough. Spent too much time there, and now here.
Quote from: Gusington on November 16, 2012, 08:49:50 PM
Good to hear that Rich is doing better. Some of my earliest online drooling over games was done at Gone Gold...even before I found the WG.
I can't confirm that, but the scuttlebutt was that one of his contacts gave an update.
Quote from: Steelgrave on November 16, 2012, 10:02:17 PM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on November 16, 2012, 08:48:09 PM
Yeah, I heard that Rich had some form of cancer, but that he actually was - at least a few years ago - doing better. I loved that site but never went to the forums. I was in college and thought I was too busy for forums, imagine that mental process... ;)
I'm surprised you done go over to Octopus Overlords, Steelie (as if you need another forum). A lot of the Gone Gold refugees founded that place and hang out there. The Console Gold group (who got really burned when Rich flipped the switch abruptly) formed Gaming Trend.
I found the Wargamer right after GG closed shop and that was pretty much enough. Spent too much time there, and now here.
At WG we tried to pick up one of his writers to help keep the dream alive but he wasn't interested in moving and the column just ceased.