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Title: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: TheCommandTent on November 30, 2012, 10:05:54 PM
QuoteIt looks like the Iranian Navy really wanted people to see its new submarine. In a live broadcast on state TV on Wednesday, the Islamic Republic showed off a new Sina 7 submarine that is painted in an unusually bright turquoise blue hue.

So, why exactly would any military want to design its ship in a color that can be easily spotted ? The Daily Mail speculates that the ship's designers mistakenly chose the color, believing it would help the craft blend in with the ocean's waters.

Launched from Bandar Abbas, near the Strait of Hormuz, the Sina 7 and two Ghadir-class submarines represent the first wave of the country's "indigenously built" warships, Iran said.

"Since the beginning of the Islamic Revolution, we have learned not to ask for help from other countries and stand on our own feet in meeting our demands," Iranian Navy commander Habibollah Sayyari said during the broadcast.

"Thanks to the Islamic Revolution, Iran has acquired the know-how to build submarines. No one believed that we would reach a point where we would build destroyers capable of carrying helicopters and missiles in the Sea of Oman and oceans ... because it's a very difficult task to build destroyers and submarines."

The Sina 7 is reportedly capable of firing anti-ship missiles, which the Iranian government says is a centerpiece of its new defense strategy.

Two repaired hovercraft vehicles were also showcased during the broadcast.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/iran-unveils-unusually-colored-blue-submarine-211724188.html

Follow the link for some pictures.  I imagine our boys in the navy just laughing at these jokers.
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: Staggerwing on November 30, 2012, 10:28:00 PM
Aww... It's just a li'l feller. He don't wanna hurt nobody.
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: bob48 on December 01, 2012, 07:50:30 AM
Is it just a mock-up for a real one? ;D
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: eyebiter on December 01, 2012, 08:02:21 AM
Looking at this video @ 0:15 guessing the blue above the waterline is radar absorbing material.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRo-8Kz4WvU
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: Staggerwing on December 01, 2012, 09:00:02 AM
Quote from: eyebiter on December 01, 2012, 08:02:21 AM
Looking at this video @ 0:15 guessing the blue above the waterline is radar absorbing material.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRo-8Kz4WvU

Actually, blue is is the traditional color for male babies in most of the world...
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: Steelgrave on December 01, 2012, 12:57:22 PM
Is that a leftover from what the Japanese used against Pearl Harbor? Man, I wouldn't drive a car that color, much less a *snicker* warship. The U.S. Navy is gonna play with that baby like a killer whale with a seal.
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: LongBlade on December 01, 2012, 05:40:33 PM
Bets on whether it has a screen door?
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: Keunert on December 02, 2012, 08:48:54 AM
colour blindness has to be a big issue with persian males.
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: LongBlade on December 02, 2012, 11:10:14 AM
Could the color possibly be attributed to them thinking a shallowly submerged ship might be more difficult to spot from the air?

This sub looks like it would give the technology of 1943 a run for its money. Maybe the Iranian admiral who came up with it is figuring that paint scheme will make it more difficult to spot by our Catalinas.
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: Staggerwing on December 02, 2012, 11:43:28 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on December 02, 2012, 11:10:14 AM
Could the color possibly be attributed to them thinking a shallowly submerged ship might be more difficult to spot from the air?

This sub looks like it would give the technology of 1943 a run for its money. Maybe the Iranian admiral who came up with it is figuring that paint scheme will make it more difficult to spot by our Catalinas.

Maybe, but if a loitering K-class USN Blimp catches sight of that sub it will be dead meat for a Hunter/killer team.
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: eyebiter on December 02, 2012, 12:49:40 PM
With only 2x torpedoes each,  these 20+ mini subs could do some damage if Iran decides to start attacking lumbering tankers in the Persian Gulf.
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: Martok on December 02, 2012, 04:05:08 PM
Sheesh.  I've seen rowboats that were bigger! 


Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: Centurion40 on December 03, 2012, 03:55:03 PM
All I can wonder is what an Iranian submarine might smell like inside.  Unpleasant would be a given, but the degree of the horror can only imagined.
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: Windigo on December 03, 2012, 04:56:34 PM
The Persian gulf has an average depth of only about 35 m with only a few spots deeper than 100m. Just how big a boat do you guys think should go in there?  Just maybe that ugly gaypride boat is an appropriate colour.... just thinking outloud
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: mirth on December 03, 2012, 06:02:18 PM
Supposedly there are 21 one of those little bastards in service and they can fire supercavitating torpedoes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghadir_class_submarine
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: LongBlade on December 03, 2012, 08:15:26 PM
Quote from: Windigo on December 03, 2012, 04:56:34 PM
The Persian gulf has an average depth of only about 35 m with only a few spots deeper than 100m. Just how big a boat do you guys think should go in there?  Just maybe that ugly gaypride boat is an appropriate colour.... just thinking outloud

Thus my tongue-in-cheek comment about being spotted by Catalinas.

The trick there is, we'll hear them before we need to see them. It's great news that the gulf is so shallow. They'll have nowhere to hide when it comes time for us to hunt them down.
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: Staggerwing on December 03, 2012, 08:34:47 PM
True. No thermoclines.
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: Windigo on December 04, 2012, 10:52:25 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on December 03, 2012, 08:15:26 PM
Quote from: Windigo on December 03, 2012, 04:56:34 PM
The Persian gulf has an average depth of only about 35 m with only a few spots deeper than 100m. Just how big a boat do you guys think should go in there?  Just maybe that ugly gaypride boat is an appropriate colour.... just thinking outloud

Thus my tongue-in-cheek comment about being spotted by Catalinas.

The trick there is, we'll hear them before we need to see them. It's great news that the gulf is so shallow. They'll have nowhere to hide when it comes time for us to hunt them down.

Thank God for computer assist in picking up sub noise from all the rest of the background noise... wonder what their submersed time is?
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: mirth on December 04, 2012, 11:42:32 AM
Quote from: Windigo on December 04, 2012, 10:52:25 AM
... wonder what their submersed time is?

Can't be all that great. Those subs are based on a North Korean design with a reported submerged range of 50nm at 4-8kts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yono_class_submarine

Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: LongBlade on December 04, 2012, 12:15:11 PM
Quote from: mirth on December 04, 2012, 11:42:32 AM
Quote from: Windigo on December 04, 2012, 10:52:25 AM
... wonder what their submersed time is?

Can't be all that great. Those subs are based on a North Korean design with a reported submerged range of 50nm at 4-8kts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yono_class_submarine

I'm wondering if they aren't expressing the endurance of those vessels incorrectly. Who cares if it can go 50 nautical miles?

Were I in one I'd be more concerned about life expectancy. Five minutes?
Title: Re: Iranian's New Sub
Post by: mirth on December 04, 2012, 12:29:03 PM
Problem is one of our torps probably costs more than the sub.